Leon tio owned by Cedric Foo

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Looks like the "man of the hour" got owned pretty badly by an MP that doesn't attend Parliament often. Expected more from him.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/more-diversity-needed/2459078.html

SINGAPORE: Opposition Workers’ Party politician Leon Perera on Tuesday (Jan 26) cautioned against a national leadership “overwhelmingly” sourced from the civil service, saying that the Singapore should embrace political and social diversity.

Said the Non-Constituency Member of Parliament: “When our leadership core comes overwhelmingly from one kind of career background - lifelong civil servants - the risk becomes greater.

"I respect our civil service, and the civil servants who have devoted their careers to serving the needs of people. But to have a core leadership that has very few with any other kind of career profile, that opens up the danger of group-think, self-rationalisation, and self-congratulation.”

He added: “How can we face the future as a developed country, if we are dominated by a very powerful state which is in turn dominated by an entrenched, single political party? There will be too much dependence on a small group of people and the risk is too high."

"When too much power is entrenched in a party or a group of persons individually, whoever they may be or from whatever party, that power breeds complacency and the tendency to be self-serving. It is matter of time."

WHAT IS 'REAL' UNITY?

Mr Perera noted that the results of the 2015 General Election meant Singapore came close to having no elected opposition Members of Parliament in the House, with the Workers' Party retaining its single-seat Hougang ward by a smaller margin, and taking Aljunied GRC with just 50.96 per cent of the vote. This could have meant a “parliamentary super majority for one party”, he said.

Mr Perera asked: “What is the greatest danger facing Singapore’s political landscape in the long term? Gridlock? Or the non-existence of any viable alternative party other than the ruling party?”

He said that debate among different voices has to be celebrated, as it is this discourse that builds the trust between the Government and the people.

"I find the casting of election results as a badge of national unity deeply unhelpful for nation-building. It suggests that what unites us is the support for one political party. I’m sure that most Singaporeans believe that real unity recognises different voices and debates among them. That is precisely what makes Singapore stronger," said Mr Perera, in his first speech in Parliament.

“Unity, as the bedrock of our nation, should lie in the trust between Government and people, the trust in one another, and a collective sense self-worth and national purpose. That will outlast any Government, any party, and lay a firmer foundation on which to build our nation.

“We must celebrate the diversity of views, debate, disagreement - and we must start from our schools to this Parliament chamber to all social spaces in between. We must celebrate this as the best way to test ideas, to agree to disagree, without branding one who disagrees as the enemy or disrespectful. This is real unity.

"Let us debate, disagree - but remain united as Singaporeans. That’s real unity worth fighting for.”

CEDRIC FOO'S RIPOSTE

Mr Cedric Foo of the People's Action Party would later counter Mr Perera's line of argument, saying that the fact that he was in Parliament despite not winning his GE2015 contest was testimony to the Government's push for diversity in politics.

Said the MP for Pioneer SMC: "Let me remind him that at the last General Election, every seat was contested, and that Singapore voted for the PAP and six other opposition members is the outcome of this voting. I hope he and his party will respect that.

"In fact, the presence of Mr Perera as an NCMP himself was the creation of the PAP Government, because we believe in diversity - as he suggested."
 
A man of his intellect opening himself for an obvious counterattack.
 
Leon Perera: "I find the casting of (the GE2015) results as a badge of national unity deeply unhelpful for nation-building. It suggests that what unites us is the support for one political party. I’m sure that most Singaporeans believe that real unity recognises different voices and debates among them. ....

We must celebrate the diversity of views, debate, disagreement - and we must start from our schools to this Parliament chamber to all social spaces in between."


Cedric Foo: "Let me remind (Leon Perera) that at the last General Election, every seat was contested, and that Singapore voted for the PAP and six other opposition members is the outcome of this voting. I hope he and his party will respect that.....

In fact, the presence of Mr Perera as an NCMP himself was the creation of the PAP Government, because we believe in diversity - as he suggested."




BURNT MOTHER FUCKER LEON! BURNT!!
 
"In fact, the presence of Mr Perera as an NCMP himself was the creation of the PAP Government, because we believe in diversity - as he suggested."[/B]

they believe in diversity in so far as they get the final say in what's right and what's not.

Cedric's reply totally fails to address the point of over reliance on a select group of individuals to make the final decision.

the only foreseeable way out of this quagmire is for PAP to evolve a team B and split itself. the opposition is still 10-20 years away from even forming a shadow cabinet. in this case, market forces (albeit stacked in the incumbents favour) in politics have failed to throw up a viable alternative to the PAP.

how long can we afford to wait for a plan B government? SG100?
 
That's the reason why NCMP scheme should be scapped; it gives the PAP a lie to sell to sinkees.
 
For the attack against Leon, was he given the opportunity to counter punch? His counter punch would say as an NCMP he has very limited voting rights,,,he is not a true representative of his constituents as he has no constituents,,,he can just ask and question but cannot vote,,,the NCMP allows him to be there but not a full fledge MP,,in essence he is toothless. PAP must give real representation to the people,,but of course the people being 70% fuckwits deserve no representation and continued shafting by the pappies
 
For the attack against Leon, was he given the opportunity to counter punch? His counter punch would say as an NCMP he has very limited voting rights,,,he is not a true representative of his constituents as he has no constituents,,,he can just ask and question but cannot vote,,,the NCMP allows him to be there but not a full fledge MP,,in essence he is toothless. PAP must give real representation to the people,,but of course the people being 70% fuckwits deserve no representation and continued shafting by the pappies

The PAP then can easily countered that he can vote but not on money bills and changing the constitution. He can even submit a motion that affects every Singaporean. NCMP still have some powers.
 
if ncmp so good,,,give them full voting rights,,,scared wat?


The PAP then can easily countered that he can vote but not on money bills and changing the constitution. He can even submit a motion that affects every Singaporean. NCMP still have some powers.
 
For the attack against Leon, was he given the opportunity to counter punch? His counter punch would say as an NCMP he has very limited voting rights,,,he is not a true representative of his constituents as he has no constituents,,,he can just ask and question but cannot vote,,,the NCMP allows him to be there but not a full fledge MP,,in essence he is toothless. PAP must give real representation to the people,,but of course the people being 70% fuckwits deserve no representation and continued shafting by the pappies

An MP is also toothless. I have always considered opposition MPs to be toothless, since they are placed outside the government institutions. While they are elected MPs and duly recognized, they are not recognized as part of the government. Hence no stat board or ministry will pay them much attention beyond the bare minimum.

The only parliamentarians with real power are those running the stat boards and ministries, with civil servants reporting to them and doing their bidding. An MP can't do much besides ask questions and be an eyesore during parliamentary sessions. Regardless what questions they ask, they have to accept whatever answer is given to them.
 
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An MP is also toothless. I have always considered opposition MPs to be toothless, since they are placed outside the government institutions. While they are elected MPs and duly recognized, they are not recognized as part of the government. Hence no stat board or ministry will pay them much attention beyond the bare minimum.

The only parliamentarians with real power are those running the stat boards and ministries, with civil servants reporting to them and doing their bidding. An MP can't do much besides ask questions and be an eyesore during parliamentary sessions. Regardless what questions they ask, they have to accept whatever answer is given to them.

Which is why Singapore should have lesser MPs. Why do we pay 15k per month to MPs like Tin Pei Ling whose work is nothing but social work. Might as well hire a social worker which is cheaper. PAP needs to lead by example in the productivity goal by cutting some of their own.
 
Who is he to doubt the integrity of the population who vote 70% for the PAP?
 
Dennis is smarter. WP will ask anything and everything EXCEPT whereabouts of our CPF monies, transparency of Temasek and GIC accounts.

If smarter means avoiding national issues.

WP will degenerate into the confrontational politics of SDP and the likes of HHH and Roy if they question along that line.
 
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