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DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,000!

Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

When JBJ threw a defamatory "Molotov cocktail" at that Wooden piece of shit.


Jeya's action was "like throwing a Molotov cocktail'
147th Prostitute Press, 20 August 1997

DEFAMATION CASE AGAINST WORKERS' PARTY CHIEF: DAY 2

PRIME Minister Goh Chok Tong argued yesterday that what Mr J. B. Jeyaretnam did at a rally on Jan 1 was like throwing at him "a Molotov cocktail" - prepared by Mr Tang Liang Hong - with precise timing to cause hurt.


The Workers' Party chief had told the crowd that his Cheng San GRC team-mate had placed before him two police reports, at a highly critical moment at the very close of the last rally before Polling Day.

Mr Jeyaretnam was thus helping to propagate Mr Tang's claim that Mr Goh and 10 other People's Action Party leaders were liars and criminal conspirators, he suggested.

Rejecting this, Mr George Carman, Queen's Counsel for Mr Jeyaretnam, argued that Mr Goh's case against his client was making "a mountain out of a molehill" and the Molotov "story" was "a load of nonsense".

To say that Mr Jeyaretnam's mere announcement about the police reports had caused grave damage was "unreal, fanciful", and offensive to fairness, common sense and objectivity, he added.

A Molotov cocktail is a home-made bomb of petrol and rags in a glass bottle, which explodes when thrown. It is named after Russian statesman Vyacheslav Molotov (1890-1986), who ordered its production during World War II.

Mr Goh offered the analogy under cross-examination by Mr Carman, on the second day of the High Court hearing into the defamation case brought by 11 PAP men against the WP chief.

Said the Prime Minister: "I was outraged ... It was as if Tang had prepared a Molotov cocktail, and given it to Jeyaretnam, who at the precise moment, hurled the Molotov cocktail in my direction."

He described how he was outraged a few more times during the three hours he was in the stand, under very pointed questioning from the QC.

Mr Carman was warned twice by Justice S. Rajendran, upon intervention by the PM's QC Thomas Shields, not to make comments while asking questions.

At one point, he accused the PM of "fencing" in his answers and being an untruthful witness.

Mr Goh objected to this strongly, saying he would sue the QC if he could, although the comment, made in a court hearing, was privileged.

On Mr Jeyaretnam's rally remarks, he said: "It was not a simple telling of a crowd that here you are, you have a police report. It is the timing of it, the precise timing of it."

Mr Shields yesterday showed the court 25 minutes of video clips from WP rallies from television recordings, including the last segment of the Jan 1 rally.

The video showed crowds cheering and waving as Mr Jeyaretnam, at Mr Tang's repeated instigation, referred to the police reports.

Mr Shields said that, even if Mr Jeyaretnam did not go into detail about Mr Tang's police reports, the crowd would have known what they were about, since there had been much publicity about the PAP's attack on Mr Tang.

Mr Carman argued that Mr Jeyaretnam had to be reminded to tell the crowd about the reports, and did so in a low-key manner that attracted no "wild paroxysms of excitement".

So, if indeed a bomb was thrown, it was "a pretty casual throwing of a Molotov cocktail".

He said Mr Goh must be "a very sensitive politician" to take offence to such an extent, to which the PM said he was very sensitive where his integrity and reputation were concerned.

Mr Goh had said in his affidavit that his international reputation had been hurt by Mr Jeyaretnam's remarks, although he could not point immediately to a particular example of damage.

"My reputation internationally is not just based on this particular aspect of it. So when I talk about damages, it is the totality of my reputation," he explained.

Mr Carman even went so far as to suggest that Mr Goh, a "willing apprentice" of Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew, had "adapted" the system to stifle opposition and stay in power.

The case against Mr Jeyaretnam, he charged, was "designed to bankrupt" the Non-Constituency MP and keep him out of Parliament.

The ordinary man walking out of a burger joint on Orchard Road, with a degree of cynicism, would treat what the WP chief said at the rally as an unconfirmed claim in a squabble between politicians, he added.

As for damages, he argued, Mr Goh deserved at most a "derisory" 50 cents, since his reputation had been vindicated fully by the defamation award won against Mr Tang in May.

Yesterday's cross-examination drew intermittent laughter from the public, who was there in numbers again, with queues forming as early as 8.30 am.

Today's hearing continues with Mr Jeyaretnam expected to be called to testify.

Why the PM was outraged -

QC George Carman: What you are saying is that you were very upset simply because Mr Jeyaretnam announced that the report had been filed?

PM Goh Chok Tong: Yes, I was outraged as well.


QC: For simply announcing that the report had been filed?

QC: Are you really seriously and responsibly saying to this court that for a politician at an election rally to say about another politician that he has been handed a police report would damage his leadership standing in the world to the extent you describe?
 
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Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

When JBJ threw a defamatory "Molotov cocktail" at that Wooden piece of shit.


Jeya's action was "like throwing a Molotov cocktail'
147th Prostitute Press, 20 August 1997

B]DEFAMATION CASE AGAINST WORKERS' PARTY CHIEF: DAY 2[/B]

PRIME Minister Goh Chok Tong argued yesterday that what Mr J. B. Jeyaretnam did at a rally on Jan 1 was like throwing at him "a Molotov cocktail" - prepared by Mr Tang Liang Hong - with precise timing to cause hurt.


The Workers' Party chief had told the crowd that his Cheng San GRC team-mate had placed before him two police reports, at a highly critical moment at the very close of the last rally before Polling Day.

Mr Jeyaretnam was thus helping to propagate Mr Tang's claim that Mr Goh and 10 other People's Action Party leaders were liars and criminal conspirators, he suggested.

Rejecting this, Mr George Carman, Queen's Counsel for Mr Jeyaretnam, argued that Mr Goh's case against his client was making "a mountain out of a molehill" and the Molotov "story" was "a load of nonsense".

To say that Mr Jeyaretnam's mere announcement about the police reports had caused grave damage was "unreal, fanciful", and offensive to fairness, common sense and objectivity, he added.

A Molotov cocktail is a home-made bomb of petrol and rags in a glass bottle, which explodes when thrown. It is named after Russian statesman Vyacheslav Molotov (1890-1986), who ordered its production during World War II.

Mr Goh offered the analogy under cross-examination by Mr Carman, on the second day of the High Court hearing into the defamation case brought by 11 PAP men against the WP chief.

Said the Prime Minister: "I was outraged ... It was as if Tang had prepared a Molotov cocktail, and given it to Jeyaretnam, who at the precise moment, hurled the Molotov cocktail in my direction."

He described how he was outraged a few more times during the three hours he was in the stand, under very pointed questioning from the QC.

Mr Carman was warned twice by Justice S. Rajendran, upon intervention by the PM's QC Thomas Shields, not to make comments while asking questions.

At one point, he accused the PM of "fencing" in his answers and being an untruthful witness.

Mr Goh objected to this strongly, saying he would sue the QC if he could, although the comment, made in a court hearing, was privileged.

On Mr Jeyaretnam's rally remarks, he said: "It was not a simple telling of a crowd that here you are, you have a police report. It is the timing of it, the precise timing of it."

Mr Shields yesterday showed the court 25 minutes of video clips from WP rallies from television recordings, including the last segment of the Jan 1 rally.

The video showed crowds cheering and waving as Mr Jeyaretnam, at Mr Tang's repeated instigation, referred to the police reports.

Mr Shields said that, even if Mr Jeyaretnam did not go into detail about Mr Tang's police reports, the crowd would have known what they were about, since there had been much publicity about the PAP's attack on Mr Tang.

Mr Carman argued that Mr Jeyaretnam had to be reminded to tell the crowd about the reports, and did so in a low-key manner that attracted no "wild paroxysms of excitement".

So, if indeed a bomb was thrown, it was "a pretty casual throwing of a Molotov cocktail".

He said Mr Goh must be "a very sensitive politician" to take offence to such an extent, to which the PM said he was very sensitive where his integrity and reputation were concerned.

Mr Goh had said in his affidavit that his international reputation had been hurt by Mr Jeyaretnam's remarks, although he could not point immediately to a particular example of damage.

"My reputation internationally is not just based on this particular aspect of it. So when I talk about damages, it is the totality of my reputation," he explained.

Mr Carman even went so far as to suggest that Mr Goh, a "willing apprentice" of Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew, had "adapted" the system to stifle opposition and stay in power.

The case against Mr Jeyaretnam, he charged, was "designed to bankrupt" the Non-Constituency MP and keep him out of Parliament.

The ordinary man walking out of a burger joint on Orchard Road, with a degree of cynicism, would treat what the WP chief said at the rally as an unconfirmed claim in a squabble between politicians, he added.

As for damages, he argued, Mr Goh deserved at most a "derisory" 50 cents, since his reputation had been vindicated fully by the defamation award won against Mr Tang in May.

Yesterday's cross-examination drew intermittent laughter from the public, who was there in numbers again, with queues forming as early as 8.30 am.

Today's hearing continues with Mr Jeyaretnam expected to be called to testify.

Why the PM was outraged -

QC George Carman: What you are saying is that you were very upset simply because Mr Jeyaretnam announced that the report had been filed?

PM Goh Chok Tong: Yes, I was outraged as well.


QC: For simply announcing that the report had been filed?

QC: Are you really seriously and responsibly saying to this court that for a politician at an election rally to say about another politician that he has been handed a police report would damage his leadership standing in the world to the extent you describe?




Talk so much for fuck?



Sue already man!!!






Then you see whether there will be a change in govt.........



For sure i will come and hang you by your balls....no you wont die so fast....you will die but very very slowly.........
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

That "Molotov cocktail" thrown at that Wooden piece of shit was this statement of fact by JBJ:

" [Tang Liang Hong has] just placed before me two reports he has made to the police against, you know, Mr Goh Chok Tong and his team".


PM, 10 OTHERS FILE SUITS.
147th Prostitute Press, 6 February 1997


DEFAMATION SUITS AGAINST JEYA

THE Prime Minister and 10 other PAP leaders and members have filed eight individual and joint defamation suits against Mr J. B. Jeyaretnam for allegedly defaming them at a Workers' Party election rally on Jan 1.

They are claiming aggravated damages from the WP leader, who offered to apologise to them, but denied that the words he used were defamatory.

Mr Jeyaretnam told the rally that Mr Tang, who was his team-mate on the WP's Cheng San GRC slate, had "just placed before me two reports he has made to the police against, you know, Mr Goh Chok Tong and his team".

In one of the reports, filed on Jan 1, Mr Tang alleged that a number of Ministers and MPs had committed a criminal conspiracy to defame him.

Mr Tang had said earlier in a press interview that he would sue the PAP leaders and members and lodge a police report against them for calling him an anti-Christian Chinese chauvinist.

The 11 plaintiffs argued, among other things, that the people at the rally would have known that Mr Jeyaretnam's reference to the two police reports was in relation to the allegations of criminal conduct against them made by Mr Tang.

They are claiming that Mr Jeyaretnam, by making the announcement at the rally, was alleging that they were guilty of criminal defamation and criminal conspiracy.

Apart from Mr Goh, the other plaintiffs are: Mr Lee Kuan Yew, Dr Tony Tan, BG (NS) Lee Hsien Loong, Rear-Admiral (NS) Teo Chee Hean, Mr Ch'ng Jit Koon, Dr Ow Chin Hock, Mr Seng Han Tong, Mr Lee Yock Suan, Mr Chin Harn Tong and Dr Ker Sin Tze.
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

Then you see whether there will be a change in govt.........

For sure i will come and hang you by your balls....no you wont die so fast....you will die but very very slowly.........

Please get your priorities right. Help LTK sell more umbrellas and safety pins tonight. You can hang me by my balls after the $500,000 has been raised.
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

Wah lan eh... they teach this in secondary school or jc if you're in the commerce stream.

Income less expenditure = profit/(loss)

The grants receivable from Ccc is a balance sheet item. So if it is withheld, Ltk has every right to ask "where did the money go?"

Try something else, TS
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

Try something else, TS

The pictures were out, whereas the total amount receivable was S$22,817,983.00, PAP handed to WP S$22,514,611.00, short of the S$303,372.00 from the CICP fund that was so called secured.
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

LTK is an experienced politician. He would've done his due diligence before coming out with it. Nobody is going to sue anybody in this regard. Ball is in pap's court now, we are waiting for the return serve.
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

LTK is an experienced politician. He would've done his due diligence before coming out with it. Nobody is going to sue anybody in this regard. Ball is in pap's court now, we are waiting for the return serve.


Latest ....... PAP said ball went missing .. SOC activated to find missing ball. Gurkha Contingent on stand-by.
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

This is for the younger crowd who don't know what defamation means in the Singapore context. You can deny what they claimed you to be just like what TLH did or simply query about special discounts for property purchases and that is enough to constitute defamation.

There is nothing wrong for LTK to seek clarification in the face of certain allegations made by the pappies. Is seeking clarification a ground for defamation?

No matter how mighty the pappies are, they are also bound by the rules of law. They cannot turn the law on its head to slam people who have the inalienable rights to defend themselves against unwarranted allegation.

Yes, if certain allegation is made about money, and that money is not there where it is supposed to be, then where is the money?
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

Ball is in pap's court now, we are waiting for the return serve.

TCH & CC must sue LTK! Otherwise what LTK said is the truth! PE was in a deficit during the transfer. Teehee...
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

TCH & CC must sue LTK! Otherwise what LTK said is the truth! PE was in a deficit during the transfer. Teehee...

TCH n CC will blame VB. They wanted their eyes checked by Viv but
latter too busy. They saw figures wrongly. Honest mistake only. Move on.
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

The pictures were out, whereas the total amount receivable was S$22,817,983.00, PAP handed to WP S$22,514,611.00, short of the S$303,372.00 from the CICP fund that was so called secured.

Thanks

When i woke up this morning and read the headlines to Pap's retort, i knew there was no issue. If Pap indeed had a strong case, pinky Teo chee hean or Wooden would have responded, not some Zainal whathisname.
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

As simple as the term: High handedness!

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Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

No matter how mighty the pappies are, they are also bound by the rules of law.

In Singapore, they make the rules. The Defamation Law is defined by one particular law firm, especially by one particular Baboo.
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

PAP already clarified that there are reimbursements from the CIPC. WTF is the WP bitching about?
 
Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

big big big mistake

workers party has fumbled big time

making a mess and more mess

they will be voted out at this election

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Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

Will LTK apologize to Aljunied residents and Singaporeans at tonight 's rally ?

Or will he still hold on to his statement that PAP did not reveal where 's the missing money ?( quote " Where is the Money ?! " unquote )

LTK's integrity is at stake !

Admit it's a honest mistake ... otherwise all that he said and stood for in the previous rallies will crumble down. If the anchorman in WP party denies the fact that PAP has already told him the "missing" monies are coming from CIPC and hence, the full audited account in PE is in a surplus, he will lose his credibility as a leader. Never be too proud to admit your mistakes. And never pull your whole team down with you. Your team had made tremendous sacrifices to join WP in this election.

Take a leaf from Dr Chee. He acknowledged the personal attacks from VB, SA and LW, but he chose not to engage in the kind of politics. Instead, he delved on the real issues of Singaporeans; issues that matter for Singapore and the kind of candidate that Singaporeans want him or her to represent them in Parliament.
 
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Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

you steady... we steady..


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Re: DEFAMATION!!! WP LTK IS FUCKED! Mark my words, he will be out-of-pocket by $500,0

Will LTK apologize to Aljunied residents and Singaporeans at tonight 's rally ?

Or will he still hold on to his statement that PAP did not reveal where 's the missing money ?( quote " Where is the Money ?! " unquote )

LTK's integrity is at stake !

It's not just about LTK but is as much, if not more, about TCH. Remember this is Wooden's declaration to the world via Asiaweek on what constitutes defamation:

"By defamation, I mean if somebody says the minister is on the take or is less than honest."​

"Less than honest". That's the benchmark.

LTK has effectively called TCH a liar and by innuendo, someone who's "on the take".

If the Commander of the RSN's Nuclear First Strike Fleet does not sue, he is by definition of the Venerable Goh Chok Tong, "less than honest". He is in short, a liar who is unfit to hold the office of the Deputy Prime Minister of Singapore, Minister-in-Charge of the Civil Service or for that matter, any public office.

TCH will have to step down immediately if he refuses to sue. Otherwise, he leaves Lee Hsien Loong no choice but to kick him out immediately. If LHL fails to do so, he himself will face a collapse in his moral authority to lead the PAP, to govern Singapore and to remain as Prime Minister.

Between being kicked out of the PAP or suing LTK, I am sure TCH knows what to do. I bet my last dollar that he has already contacted the PAP tailor, Davinder Singh, who specialises in lawsuits. I hope LTK will be able to sell enough umbrellas tonight.
 
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