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China Is Building 42,000 Military Drones: Should America Worry?
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China may be building an army of almost 42,000 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), according to the U.S. Department of Defense.
On Friday, the Pentagon released its annual report to Congress on Chinese military power. The Pentagon’s assessment is that China has incredibly ambitious plans for building up a fleet of both sea and land-based UAVs in the coming years.
“China is advancing its development and employment of UAVs,” the report— entitled Military and Security Developments Involving the People’s Republic of China 2015— said. “Some estimates indicate China plans to produce upwards of 41,800 land- and sea-based unmanned systems, worth about $10.5 billion, between 2014 and 2023.”
This would be an astronomical rate of growth. Indeed, by way of comparison, the Pentagon itself only operates 7,000 aerial drones, according to the Friends Committee on National Legislation, although others have estimated it has more. The estimate of 7,000 drones also doesn’t include underwater UAVs.
The new Pentagon report highlights four Chinese drones in particular— the Xianglong, Yilong, Sky Saber, and Lijian— that were all unveiled in 2013. The Yilong, Sky Saber, and Lijian are all designed to carry carry precision-strike weapons, the report said, and the Lijian is a stealth drone. The Pentagon also noted that China has been incorporating UAVs into military exercises in recent years, including one drill in the East China Sea in 2013. That move irked Japan, which quickly announced that it had plans to shoot down foreign drones.
Chinese state-media outlets have also reported that Beijing once considered launching drone attacks in neighboring Myanmar to take out a drug dealer wanted for killing 13 Chinese sailors. China later decided to try to capture the drug dealer alive
The new report indicates growing alarm among the U.S. military over China’s UAV arsenal. Indeed, in its 2014 report on Chinese military power, the Pentagon merely stated: “China is incrementally advancing its development and employment of UAVs. Last year’s report also highlighted a 2013 report from the Defense Science Board that said that China’s UAV spending might match or exceed America’s in the future.
Nonetheless, the Pentagon’s assessment is consistent with other non-government reports, which have highlighted China’s burgeoning drone manufacturing capabilities. Back in May 2014, Forecast International, a private market researcher, released a forecast of the global UAV market over the next decade. The report estimated that the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a state-owned Chinese defense company, will lead the world in UAV production. According to Forecast International, AVIC will produce about $5.76 billion worth of UAVs through 2023. That is more than half of the UAVs by value that will be produced during this time period. Most of those UAVs will go to Chinese consumers, the report said, with the largest consumer almost certainly being the Chinese military. China has also expressed an interest in exporting UAVs, including to Saudi Arabia.
The 2015 Pentagon report also continued to express alarm over the scale of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force’s modernization campaign. “The PLA Air Force is rapidly closing the gap with western air forces across a broad spectrum of capabilities from aircraft, C2, to jammers, to electronic warfare (EW), to datalinks,” the report said. Last year’s report used similar language, although it also said that “the PLAAF is pursuing modernization on a scale unprecedented in its history.”
Zachary Keck is managing editor of The National Interest. You can find him on Twitter: @ZacharyKeck.
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China Is Building 42,000 Military Drones: Should America Worry?
Zachary Keck
May 10, 2015
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China may be building an army of almost 42,000 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), according to the U.S. Department of Defense.
On Friday, the Pentagon released its annual report to Congress on Chinese military power. The Pentagon’s assessment is that China has incredibly ambitious plans for building up a fleet of both sea and land-based UAVs in the coming years.
“China is advancing its development and employment of UAVs,” the report— entitled Military and Security Developments Involving the People’s Republic of China 2015— said. “Some estimates indicate China plans to produce upwards of 41,800 land- and sea-based unmanned systems, worth about $10.5 billion, between 2014 and 2023.”
This would be an astronomical rate of growth. Indeed, by way of comparison, the Pentagon itself only operates 7,000 aerial drones, according to the Friends Committee on National Legislation, although others have estimated it has more. The estimate of 7,000 drones also doesn’t include underwater UAVs.
The new Pentagon report highlights four Chinese drones in particular— the Xianglong, Yilong, Sky Saber, and Lijian— that were all unveiled in 2013. The Yilong, Sky Saber, and Lijian are all designed to carry carry precision-strike weapons, the report said, and the Lijian is a stealth drone. The Pentagon also noted that China has been incorporating UAVs into military exercises in recent years, including one drill in the East China Sea in 2013. That move irked Japan, which quickly announced that it had plans to shoot down foreign drones.
Chinese state-media outlets have also reported that Beijing once considered launching drone attacks in neighboring Myanmar to take out a drug dealer wanted for killing 13 Chinese sailors. China later decided to try to capture the drug dealer alive
The new report indicates growing alarm among the U.S. military over China’s UAV arsenal. Indeed, in its 2014 report on Chinese military power, the Pentagon merely stated: “China is incrementally advancing its development and employment of UAVs. Last year’s report also highlighted a 2013 report from the Defense Science Board that said that China’s UAV spending might match or exceed America’s in the future.
Nonetheless, the Pentagon’s assessment is consistent with other non-government reports, which have highlighted China’s burgeoning drone manufacturing capabilities. Back in May 2014, Forecast International, a private market researcher, released a forecast of the global UAV market over the next decade. The report estimated that the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a state-owned Chinese defense company, will lead the world in UAV production. According to Forecast International, AVIC will produce about $5.76 billion worth of UAVs through 2023. That is more than half of the UAVs by value that will be produced during this time period. Most of those UAVs will go to Chinese consumers, the report said, with the largest consumer almost certainly being the Chinese military. China has also expressed an interest in exporting UAVs, including to Saudi Arabia.
The 2015 Pentagon report also continued to express alarm over the scale of the People’s Liberation Army Air Force’s modernization campaign. “The PLA Air Force is rapidly closing the gap with western air forces across a broad spectrum of capabilities from aircraft, C2, to jammers, to electronic warfare (EW), to datalinks,” the report said. Last year’s report used similar language, although it also said that “the PLAAF is pursuing modernization on a scale unprecedented in its history.”
Zachary Keck is managing editor of The National Interest. You can find him on Twitter: @ZacharyKeck.
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By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer posted Nov 14th, 2014 at 8:00am
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Zhuhai 2014
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Shown in all its glory from a first class window seat, Zhuhai 2014 is playing host to an arsenal of Chinese military and civilian aircraft, as well as American, European and Russian planes. But what we don't see is China's growing and innovative drone industry, which can be viewed indoors at the exhibition halls.
While much of the buzz at the Zhuhai Air Show has been about new manned stealth Jets in China’s arsenal, it has also shed light on how China's unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), aka “drone,” industry is making large strides.
GJ-1
KsR via China Military Aviation
GJ-1 "76024" is prepped by Chinese airmen. The GJ-1, in addition to being exported to Saudi Arabia, is China's frontline attack drone.
The Aviation Industries Corporation of China (AVIC) showed off its GJ-1 UCAV, along with development drones like the VD-200 and Blue Fox.
WJ-1
by78 at Sinodefense Forum
At Zhuhai 2014, the WJ-1 UCAV, formerly known as the Pterodactyl, basks in the glow of interested customers and a wide variety of glide bombs, guided rockets and anti-tank missiles displayed before it.
Fresh off its Peace Mission 2014 debut, the CJ-1 proudly stands behind a wide variety of Chinese guided rockets, anti-tank missiles and glide bombs. "GJ-1" is actually the in service designation of the Pterodactyl UAV, which made defense headlines by dropping anti-tank missiles during the multilateral Peace Mission 2014 exercise. As China's first UCAV, it is already being exported to Middle Eastern countries; China is less stringent that the U.S. when it comes to exporting lethal unmanned technologies.
Sharp Eyes III
hangkong.com
Currently a scout helicopter drone, Sharp Eyes III is used to find juicy enemy targets like tanks and artillery. Given its medium size, it could carry a few light guided munitions in the future, to pack some sharp teeth to match those eyes.
Sharp Eye III drone copter is a NORINCO product, intended for use at the brigade/regimental level. A small to medium helicopter drone, it is primarily used for targeting artillery strikes and patrol, though like most UAVs, it could be armed with light weapons, like the BRM1 90mm guided rocket.
WJ-600
Wendell Minnick, Defense News
The WJ-600 has some stealth shaping to reduce its vulnerability against radars, as it flies low on the battlefield or training grounds. Right now, it's meant purely as a surveillance and targeting asset, though like almost all other UAVs, it could be armed with some level of weaponry.
Old WJ 600
China Defense Forum
WJ-600 wasn't always stealthy. Four years ago at Zhuhai 2010, CASIC showed the WJ-600 as an unstealthy attack drone, with one video implausibly featuring it attacking a U.S. destroyer. With the WJ-1 as China's UCAV, the WJ-600 has gone a facelift (see above).
Target drones and decoy UAVs have not captured public imagination the way the hunter killer drones like the US Predator class has, but going back to the early Cold War, they fulfill some of the oldest unmanned aerial missions. CASIC's WJ 600 Stealth UCAV is shaped like a cruise missile, with stealthy characteristics including a recessed turbofan engine to reduce its radar cross section. While the WJ-600 could simulate stealthy cruise missiles like the U.S. LRSAM during Chinese training, its manufacturer states it can perform missions like combat surveillance, targeting and patrol. Interestingly, a less stealthy version of the WJ-600 was shown at Zhuhai 2010, armed with antitank missiles. The 2010 iteration of the WJ-600 was the star of a CGI video showing it somehow attacking an U.S. Arleigh Burke class destroyer.
Blue Fox
Defense Update
Using the highly maneuverable and fast airframe of the L-15 advanced jet trainer, the Blue Fox is meant to test the effectiveness of air defense systems, such as the HQ-9 SAM.
AVIC's Blue Fox UAV is a smaller, unmanned version of the L-15 advanced jet trainer; it has two turbojet engines with a total of 12 tons of thrust. The Blue Fox can simulate the flight performance of modern fighter jets during surface to air missile testing, though it shouldn't take too much to use it as a supersonic UCAV once afterburners are added.
VD 200
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The VD-200 takes off from the upright position shown here, and then reorients itself to level horizontal flight. Compared to the similarly sized RQ-7, it doesn't require a catapult or runway to take off, making it easier to use in urban environments and by special forces.
The 200kg VD-200 VTOL is another interesting Chinese UAV. It takes and lands in a vertical position, but flies in an horizontal direction for 6-8 hours with 20kg of sensors, or small bombs. The VD-200's small footprint would make it a very good fit for urban infantry and maritime security ships that would like to have a RQ-7 sized UAV.
S-100 Sea UAV
Wendell Minnick, Defense News
The S-100 is a nicely sized drone, it can even carry 240 kg of cargo (translates into 4 Hellfire missiles). Since it takes off and land from water just as easily as it does on land, it could be a real friend to coast guards and small warships everywhere... and to non-state actors on the high seas.
Speaking of water operations, the S-100 UAV is fully buoyant, meaning that it is a drone that can take off and land on water like a manned seaplane. Shanghai UVS Intelligence Systems Co notes that the S-100 can fly for 8 hours and carry a very large payload of 240 kg. In addition to serving as the eyes of maritime and naval patrol ships, the S-100 could provide a convenient UCAV capability for waterborne Chinese special forces.
VTAS Aerostat
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CTEC shows off its 1,600 cubic meter Vehicle Tethered Aerostat System at Zhuhai 2014. This aerostat is primarily intended for urban safety and border patrol missions, but its larger 8,000 cubic meter brother would likely have military missions, such as cruise missile defense.
China Electronics Technology Corporation is marketing its aerostat family; a 1,600 cubic meter version of the VehicularTethered Aerostat System is on display at Zhuhai. The 16m long aerostat reaches an altitude of 1,000 meters and is intended for law enforcement purposes, as well as being resistant to typhoon strength winds. The largest of CETC's aerostats, with a volume of 8,000 cubic meters, can stay up for 30 days. The larger aerostat would probably have military missions by using their high altitude to detect low flying cruise missiles over hundreds of miles.
Harrier III
China Defense Forum
The Harrier III is a prop-powered flying wing, which gives it greater endurance and payload compared to more traditional UAVs like the Predator. With 700kg of payload, it's likely to have a substantial attack capability.
Harrier III drone concept is also a past Zhuhai attendee, having appeared in 2012 and other Chinese trade shows since then. While it resembles flying wing drones like the X-47B and RQ-170, it uses two propellers to more efficiently operate at lower speeds. The Harrier III has a heavy payload of 700 kg, compared to its overall weight of 2 tons. The Harrier III can say aloft for 24 hours, its endurance wouldmake it a valuable intelligence gathering and "high value target" strike platform.
Sharp Sword
lt.cjdby.net
China's most advanced drone, the stealthy Sharp Sword UCAV, first flew at Hongdu's airfield in November 2013. The Sharp Sword is China's answer to western stealth drones like the X-47B, RQ-170, Taranis and Neuron. We may see it fly by at a future Zhuhai airshow.
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By Jeffrey Lin and P.W. Singer posted Nov 14th, 2014 at 8:00am
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Zhuhai 2014
www.top81.cn
Shown in all its glory from a first class window seat, Zhuhai 2014 is playing host to an arsenal of Chinese military and civilian aircraft, as well as American, European and Russian planes. But what we don't see is China's growing and innovative drone industry, which can be viewed indoors at the exhibition halls.
While much of the buzz at the Zhuhai Air Show has been about new manned stealth Jets in China’s arsenal, it has also shed light on how China's unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), aka “drone,” industry is making large strides.
GJ-1
KsR via China Military Aviation
GJ-1 "76024" is prepped by Chinese airmen. The GJ-1, in addition to being exported to Saudi Arabia, is China's frontline attack drone.
The Aviation Industries Corporation of China (AVIC) showed off its GJ-1 UCAV, along with development drones like the VD-200 and Blue Fox.
WJ-1
by78 at Sinodefense Forum
At Zhuhai 2014, the WJ-1 UCAV, formerly known as the Pterodactyl, basks in the glow of interested customers and a wide variety of glide bombs, guided rockets and anti-tank missiles displayed before it.
Fresh off its Peace Mission 2014 debut, the CJ-1 proudly stands behind a wide variety of Chinese guided rockets, anti-tank missiles and glide bombs. "GJ-1" is actually the in service designation of the Pterodactyl UAV, which made defense headlines by dropping anti-tank missiles during the multilateral Peace Mission 2014 exercise. As China's first UCAV, it is already being exported to Middle Eastern countries; China is less stringent that the U.S. when it comes to exporting lethal unmanned technologies.
Sharp Eyes III
hangkong.com
Currently a scout helicopter drone, Sharp Eyes III is used to find juicy enemy targets like tanks and artillery. Given its medium size, it could carry a few light guided munitions in the future, to pack some sharp teeth to match those eyes.
Sharp Eye III drone copter is a NORINCO product, intended for use at the brigade/regimental level. A small to medium helicopter drone, it is primarily used for targeting artillery strikes and patrol, though like most UAVs, it could be armed with light weapons, like the BRM1 90mm guided rocket.
WJ-600
Wendell Minnick, Defense News
The WJ-600 has some stealth shaping to reduce its vulnerability against radars, as it flies low on the battlefield or training grounds. Right now, it's meant purely as a surveillance and targeting asset, though like almost all other UAVs, it could be armed with some level of weaponry.
Old WJ 600
China Defense Forum
WJ-600 wasn't always stealthy. Four years ago at Zhuhai 2010, CASIC showed the WJ-600 as an unstealthy attack drone, with one video implausibly featuring it attacking a U.S. destroyer. With the WJ-1 as China's UCAV, the WJ-600 has gone a facelift (see above).
Target drones and decoy UAVs have not captured public imagination the way the hunter killer drones like the US Predator class has, but going back to the early Cold War, they fulfill some of the oldest unmanned aerial missions. CASIC's WJ 600 Stealth UCAV is shaped like a cruise missile, with stealthy characteristics including a recessed turbofan engine to reduce its radar cross section. While the WJ-600 could simulate stealthy cruise missiles like the U.S. LRSAM during Chinese training, its manufacturer states it can perform missions like combat surveillance, targeting and patrol. Interestingly, a less stealthy version of the WJ-600 was shown at Zhuhai 2010, armed with antitank missiles. The 2010 iteration of the WJ-600 was the star of a CGI video showing it somehow attacking an U.S. Arleigh Burke class destroyer.
Blue Fox
Defense Update
Using the highly maneuverable and fast airframe of the L-15 advanced jet trainer, the Blue Fox is meant to test the effectiveness of air defense systems, such as the HQ-9 SAM.
AVIC's Blue Fox UAV is a smaller, unmanned version of the L-15 advanced jet trainer; it has two turbojet engines with a total of 12 tons of thrust. The Blue Fox can simulate the flight performance of modern fighter jets during surface to air missile testing, though it shouldn't take too much to use it as a supersonic UCAV once afterburners are added.
VD 200
mil.huanqiu.com
The VD-200 takes off from the upright position shown here, and then reorients itself to level horizontal flight. Compared to the similarly sized RQ-7, it doesn't require a catapult or runway to take off, making it easier to use in urban environments and by special forces.
The 200kg VD-200 VTOL is another interesting Chinese UAV. It takes and lands in a vertical position, but flies in an horizontal direction for 6-8 hours with 20kg of sensors, or small bombs. The VD-200's small footprint would make it a very good fit for urban infantry and maritime security ships that would like to have a RQ-7 sized UAV.
S-100 Sea UAV
Wendell Minnick, Defense News
The S-100 is a nicely sized drone, it can even carry 240 kg of cargo (translates into 4 Hellfire missiles). Since it takes off and land from water just as easily as it does on land, it could be a real friend to coast guards and small warships everywhere... and to non-state actors on the high seas.
Speaking of water operations, the S-100 UAV is fully buoyant, meaning that it is a drone that can take off and land on water like a manned seaplane. Shanghai UVS Intelligence Systems Co notes that the S-100 can fly for 8 hours and carry a very large payload of 240 kg. In addition to serving as the eyes of maritime and naval patrol ships, the S-100 could provide a convenient UCAV capability for waterborne Chinese special forces.
VTAS Aerostat
shepardmedia.com
CTEC shows off its 1,600 cubic meter Vehicle Tethered Aerostat System at Zhuhai 2014. This aerostat is primarily intended for urban safety and border patrol missions, but its larger 8,000 cubic meter brother would likely have military missions, such as cruise missile defense.
China Electronics Technology Corporation is marketing its aerostat family; a 1,600 cubic meter version of the VehicularTethered Aerostat System is on display at Zhuhai. The 16m long aerostat reaches an altitude of 1,000 meters and is intended for law enforcement purposes, as well as being resistant to typhoon strength winds. The largest of CETC's aerostats, with a volume of 8,000 cubic meters, can stay up for 30 days. The larger aerostat would probably have military missions by using their high altitude to detect low flying cruise missiles over hundreds of miles.
Harrier III
China Defense Forum
The Harrier III is a prop-powered flying wing, which gives it greater endurance and payload compared to more traditional UAVs like the Predator. With 700kg of payload, it's likely to have a substantial attack capability.
Harrier III drone concept is also a past Zhuhai attendee, having appeared in 2012 and other Chinese trade shows since then. While it resembles flying wing drones like the X-47B and RQ-170, it uses two propellers to more efficiently operate at lower speeds. The Harrier III has a heavy payload of 700 kg, compared to its overall weight of 2 tons. The Harrier III can say aloft for 24 hours, its endurance wouldmake it a valuable intelligence gathering and "high value target" strike platform.
Sharp Sword
lt.cjdby.net
China's most advanced drone, the stealthy Sharp Sword UCAV, first flew at Hongdu's airfield in November 2013. The Sharp Sword is China's answer to western stealth drones like the X-47B, RQ-170, Taranis and Neuron. We may see it fly by at a future Zhuhai airshow.
You may be interested in:
China's New Military Robots Pack More Robots Inside, Starcraft Style
China's New Laser Zaps Drones
Chinese Autonomous Tanks: Driving Themselves to a Battlefield Near You?
Are Weaponized 'Crab Walker' Robots the Future of Chinese Land Wars?
"Da Gou", China's Own Big Dog Robot
Pterodactyl Drones in Chinese Air Force Service
Biggest "Anti-terrorist" Exercise in the World Stars Chinese Drones, Russian Troops and a Ukraine-inspired War Game
The New Inflatable Chinese Drone: Battlefield Balloons?
Not a Shark But a Robot: Chinese University Tests Long Range Unmaned Mini Sub
Chinese Drones Soon Flying Over Saudi Arabia
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Meet the PLA’s Deadly New 'Carrier Killer' Drone
Beijing is heavily investing into the development of longer-range UAVs.
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June 03, 2015
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Last week, new pictures emerged on Chinese websites of the Project 973 or Shen Diao (“Divine Eagle”) prototype, perhaps the world’s largest twin fuselage drone – and a new formidable long-range strike weapon in the arsenal of the People’s Liberation Army.
Developed by China’s Shenyang Aircraft Corporation and influenced by the Russian Sukhoi S-62 twin-fuselage high-altitude, long-endurance UAV (some media reports indicate that China stole key design features from Russia), the Divine Eagle is Beijing’s latest addition to its burgeoning anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) capabilities.
The UAV prototype is a high-altitude, long-endurance (HALE) multi-mission platform with both long-range surveillance as well as strike capabilities and “has been the subject of speculative conceptual drawings since 2012,” according to IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly. It boasts anti-stealth capabilities, a special purpose radar and reportedly first flew in February 2015.
According to Popular Science magazine, the Divine Eagle is designed to carry multiple Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radars, of the AMTI, SAR and GMTI varieties as well as Airborne Moving Target Indicators (AMTI) that are used to track airborne targets, like enemy fighters and cruise missiles.
Ground Moving Target Indicator (GMTI) radars could be used for identifying and tracking large groups of vessels such as an aircraft carrier strike force. Other radars like the “F-22 killer” JY-26 “have raised concerns in the American military that they could track stealth aircraft like the F-35 fighter and B-2 bomber at long ranges,” Popular Science magazine reports.
However, “compared to the initial concept art and drawings available in February, the latest Divine Eagle iteration is less stealthy, having two satellite communications domes, completely vertical tails and an exposed engine intake,” the magazine additionally notes.
Judging from the images, the Divine Eagle prototype appears to be larger than the U.S Air Force’s Global Hawk long-range surveillance drone and consequently could be equipped to “carry large missiles for satellite launching, anti-satellite and anti-ship missions,” elaborates the Washington Free Beacon.
The article also quotes, Rick Fisher, an expert on Chinese military capabilities, who states that “China’s construction of large long-range Global Hawk-sized unmanned aircraft will greatly assist its goal of consolidating control over the western Pacific (…)These large UAVs will act as persistent satellites able to target missiles and other tactical platforms well beyond the first island chain.”
The capacity to strike targets at a long distance was also the principal concern of another analyst.
“The deployment of high-altitude, long endurance UAVs equipped with advanced sensors would enhance the PLA’s ability to strike U.S. bases and naval assets in the region, as well as those of its allies and partners,” says Mark Stokes, a former Pentagon official.
Overall, the new UAV, once deployed, will make it harder for the United States and its allies to operate undetected close to Chinese shores, Popular Science magazine emphasizes:
Using the Divine Eagle as a picket, the Chinese air force could quickly intercept stealthy enemy aircraft, missiles and ships well before they come in range of the Mainland. Flying high, the Divine Eagle could also detect anti-ship missile trucks and air defenses on land, in preparation for offensive Chinese action.
China’s drone program appears to be largely founded upon reverse engineering of foreign technologies. Some experts caution that Chinese UAVs will primarily be deployed locally, requiring less sophisticated technology as well as less resources to operate them than U.S. unmanned aerial vehicles. The Divine Eagle prototype, however, could become the exception.
http://thediplomat.com/2015/06/meet-the-plas-deadly-new-carrier-killer-drone/
Meet the PLA’s Deadly New 'Carrier Killer' Drone
Beijing is heavily investing into the development of longer-range UAVs.
L1001025
By Franz-Stefan Gady
June 03, 2015
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Last week, new pictures emerged on Chinese websites of the Project 973 or Shen Diao (“Divine Eagle”) prototype, perhaps the world’s largest twin fuselage drone – and a new formidable long-range strike weapon in the arsenal of the People’s Liberation Army.
Developed by China’s Shenyang Aircraft Corporation and influenced by the Russian Sukhoi S-62 twin-fuselage high-altitude, long-endurance UAV (some media reports indicate that China stole key design features from Russia), the Divine Eagle is Beijing’s latest addition to its burgeoning anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) capabilities.
The UAV prototype is a high-altitude, long-endurance (HALE) multi-mission platform with both long-range surveillance as well as strike capabilities and “has been the subject of speculative conceptual drawings since 2012,” according to IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly. It boasts anti-stealth capabilities, a special purpose radar and reportedly first flew in February 2015.
According to Popular Science magazine, the Divine Eagle is designed to carry multiple Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radars, of the AMTI, SAR and GMTI varieties as well as Airborne Moving Target Indicators (AMTI) that are used to track airborne targets, like enemy fighters and cruise missiles.
Ground Moving Target Indicator (GMTI) radars could be used for identifying and tracking large groups of vessels such as an aircraft carrier strike force. Other radars like the “F-22 killer” JY-26 “have raised concerns in the American military that they could track stealth aircraft like the F-35 fighter and B-2 bomber at long ranges,” Popular Science magazine reports.
However, “compared to the initial concept art and drawings available in February, the latest Divine Eagle iteration is less stealthy, having two satellite communications domes, completely vertical tails and an exposed engine intake,” the magazine additionally notes.
Judging from the images, the Divine Eagle prototype appears to be larger than the U.S Air Force’s Global Hawk long-range surveillance drone and consequently could be equipped to “carry large missiles for satellite launching, anti-satellite and anti-ship missions,” elaborates the Washington Free Beacon.
The article also quotes, Rick Fisher, an expert on Chinese military capabilities, who states that “China’s construction of large long-range Global Hawk-sized unmanned aircraft will greatly assist its goal of consolidating control over the western Pacific (…)These large UAVs will act as persistent satellites able to target missiles and other tactical platforms well beyond the first island chain.”
The capacity to strike targets at a long distance was also the principal concern of another analyst.
“The deployment of high-altitude, long endurance UAVs equipped with advanced sensors would enhance the PLA’s ability to strike U.S. bases and naval assets in the region, as well as those of its allies and partners,” says Mark Stokes, a former Pentagon official.
Overall, the new UAV, once deployed, will make it harder for the United States and its allies to operate undetected close to Chinese shores, Popular Science magazine emphasizes:
Using the Divine Eagle as a picket, the Chinese air force could quickly intercept stealthy enemy aircraft, missiles and ships well before they come in range of the Mainland. Flying high, the Divine Eagle could also detect anti-ship missile trucks and air defenses on land, in preparation for offensive Chinese action.
China’s drone program appears to be largely founded upon reverse engineering of foreign technologies. Some experts caution that Chinese UAVs will primarily be deployed locally, requiring less sophisticated technology as well as less resources to operate them than U.S. unmanned aerial vehicles. The Divine Eagle prototype, however, could become the exception.
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Chinese military considers using drones to patrol seas contested by Japan
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The Chinese army is weighing the full use of unmanned aircraft to regularly monitor the East China Sea, a move that may add fuel to heightened tension in the area where Japanese-controlled islands claimed by China lie, a Chinese document on the country’s use of drones showed on Friday.
The document compiled in October suggested the need for the People’s Liberation Army to use military unmanned aircraft, noting that the current patrolling activities in the East China Sea through Chinese official ships dispatched there is not enough to protect the country’s interests.
Chinese vessels are frequently spotted in the sea area claimed by Japan as its territorial waters. They claim Beijing’s sovereignty over the disputed islands.
A drone was detected near the Japanese-administered Senkaku Islands, called Diaoyu in China, on September 9, 2013, prompting Japan’s Air Self-Defence Force to scramble fighter jets.
Quoting experts on Chinese military drones, the document highlighted the importance of using unmanned aerial vehicles to counter repeated US surveillance activities by its Global Hawk drones in the East China Sea as well as to deal with territorial disputes with Japan.
The document also said Beijing has the legal grounds to conduct periodical unmanned aircraft surveillance because China has established an air defence identification zone over the East China Sea in November 2013.
The Chinese army owns some 50 military unmanned aerial vehicles, including its Yilong drone that is seen as most suitable for a mission in the East China Sea because it has a range of 4,000 kilometres and can fly 20 hours continuously.
The Yilong drone costs about US$1 million, substantially cheaper than a US unmanned aerial vehicle. It is also expected to carry out the surveillance mission more effectively than manned flights.
But the Chinese army may have to improve the safety of the drones before implementing the mission, the document suggested.
The report also said China’s State Oceanic Administration constantly uses nine surveillance ships and four airplanes to monitor the East China Sea area. It has 11 aerial observation bases and also uses unmanned aircraft.
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The Minamikojima, Kitakojima and Uotsuri islands of the Senkaku Islands in the East China Sea. Photo: Kyodo
The Chinese army is weighing the full use of unmanned aircraft to regularly monitor the East China Sea, a move that may add fuel to heightened tension in the area where Japanese-controlled islands claimed by China lie, a Chinese document on the country’s use of drones showed on Friday.
The document compiled in October suggested the need for the People’s Liberation Army to use military unmanned aircraft, noting that the current patrolling activities in the East China Sea through Chinese official ships dispatched there is not enough to protect the country’s interests.
Chinese vessels are frequently spotted in the sea area claimed by Japan as its territorial waters. They claim Beijing’s sovereignty over the disputed islands.
A drone was detected near the Japanese-administered Senkaku Islands, called Diaoyu in China, on September 9, 2013, prompting Japan’s Air Self-Defence Force to scramble fighter jets.
Quoting experts on Chinese military drones, the document highlighted the importance of using unmanned aerial vehicles to counter repeated US surveillance activities by its Global Hawk drones in the East China Sea as well as to deal with territorial disputes with Japan.
The document also said Beijing has the legal grounds to conduct periodical unmanned aircraft surveillance because China has established an air defence identification zone over the East China Sea in November 2013.
The Chinese army owns some 50 military unmanned aerial vehicles, including its Yilong drone that is seen as most suitable for a mission in the East China Sea because it has a range of 4,000 kilometres and can fly 20 hours continuously.
The Yilong drone costs about US$1 million, substantially cheaper than a US unmanned aerial vehicle. It is also expected to carry out the surveillance mission more effectively than manned flights.
But the Chinese army may have to improve the safety of the drones before implementing the mission, the document suggested.
The report also said China’s State Oceanic Administration constantly uses nine surveillance ships and four airplanes to monitor the East China Sea area. It has 11 aerial observation bases and also uses unmanned aircraft.
This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as PLA considers drones for island patrols
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http://breakingdefense.com/2015/05/chinas-not-so-scary-drone-army/
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China’s (Not So Scary) Drone Army
By Sydney J. Freedberg Jr. on May 11, 2015 at 7:04 PM
Chinese UAV image
WASHINGTON: How many drones is Beijing building? Relying on unidentified “estimates,” the Pentagon’s latest Chinese Military Power report says “China plans to produce upwards of 41,800 land- and sea-based unmanned systems, worth about $10.5 billion, between 2014 and 2023,” including armed and stealthy unmanned aircraft. (More on the report here). That sentence gave rise to at least one story about China’s robotic “army.” But all drones are not created equal, experts from the tech-savvy Center for a New American Security reminded me this afternoon.
“It’s not like the sky is falling, but it would suggest a future where China will have better situational awareness over its surrounding regions,” said Paul Scharre, director of the future-looking 20YY Warfare Initiative at CNAS.
“Are we talking about 42,000 commercial off-the-shelf surveillance drones or 42,000 high-end or stealth combat drones? That clearly makes a difference in the threat assessment,” said CNAS research associate Kelley Sayler. “Judging by the projected budget — a rather modest $10.5 billion over 10 years — it would seem that the bulk of Chinese UAV investments will be in lower- to mid-end systems. ”
$10.5 billion for 42,000 drones would mean $250,000 apiece, Sayler noted, “roughly comparable to the cost of a hand-launched RQ-11 Raven system.” China tends to get more value for its defense dollar than the United States — corruption is a chronic problem but R&D is much cheaper when you can just steal the data — but even if you take that quarter-million-dollar figure and multiply it by eight, you still fall short of the $5 million cost of a mid-tier armed drone like the Army’s MQ-1C Grey Eagle.
So we can be better sure that China’s not buying an invincible robot army. But Beijing doesn’t need cutting edge tech to get real benefits. While the US is experimenting with highly autonomous and swarming robots, it’s worth remembering that the unarmed surveillance version of the Predator drone entered service 20 years ago.
“The underlying technology behind something like Predator or Reaper or a Global Hawk, it’s not that complicated,” Scharre told me. “China is obviously excellent at reverse engineering things across the board and a lot of what they’re doing looks kind of like that.”
Where China can innovate, however, is in operating drones with less infrastructure and overhead than the US military. “If they’re using drones for surveillance…. that doesn’t mean they need 90 analysts behind every drone orbit,” he said. They don’t even necessarily need communications satellites: “China doesn’t have to project power around the globe like we do in places like Afghanistan, they’re looking to project power locally” — over the Senkaku Islands, say, or the Scarborough Shoal, or the Himalayas — “so they may be able to do with line-of-sight [radio] networks and relay networks using other drones.” (Because drones can loiter longer in the air than manned aircraft, they make good flying antennas).
China’s essentially catching up to where the US was a few years ago. That’s impressive but not world-shaking. The danger comes from American complacency and under-investment, Scharre warned. The Air Force has “zero dollars” in its budget plans for new drone models, he said, although the secrecy-shrouded Long-Range Strike Bomber may be “optionally manned.” The Navy is developing a carrier-launched combat drone called UCLASS, but it’s on hold because of debates over whether it should be an armed scout or a high-end bomber. Meanwhile, said Scharre, “there’s great stuff going on at places like ONR and DARPA, [but] crossing the valley of death into a program of record is pretty challenging.”
“I wouldn’t look to China to be developing the most cutting-edge technology [themselves],” Scharre said, “but they may well capitalize on things that we fail to do: really cutting-edge things that are developed in US labs or other countries that we don’t move forward with.”
Topics: asia, Center for a New American Security, China, Chinese Military Power 2015, CNAS, drones, Kelley Sayler, Pacific, Paul Scharre, Project 20YY, UAVs
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China’s (Not So Scary) Drone Army
By Sydney J. Freedberg Jr. on May 11, 2015 at 7:04 PM
Chinese UAV image
WASHINGTON: How many drones is Beijing building? Relying on unidentified “estimates,” the Pentagon’s latest Chinese Military Power report says “China plans to produce upwards of 41,800 land- and sea-based unmanned systems, worth about $10.5 billion, between 2014 and 2023,” including armed and stealthy unmanned aircraft. (More on the report here). That sentence gave rise to at least one story about China’s robotic “army.” But all drones are not created equal, experts from the tech-savvy Center for a New American Security reminded me this afternoon.
“It’s not like the sky is falling, but it would suggest a future where China will have better situational awareness over its surrounding regions,” said Paul Scharre, director of the future-looking 20YY Warfare Initiative at CNAS.
“Are we talking about 42,000 commercial off-the-shelf surveillance drones or 42,000 high-end or stealth combat drones? That clearly makes a difference in the threat assessment,” said CNAS research associate Kelley Sayler. “Judging by the projected budget — a rather modest $10.5 billion over 10 years — it would seem that the bulk of Chinese UAV investments will be in lower- to mid-end systems. ”
$10.5 billion for 42,000 drones would mean $250,000 apiece, Sayler noted, “roughly comparable to the cost of a hand-launched RQ-11 Raven system.” China tends to get more value for its defense dollar than the United States — corruption is a chronic problem but R&D is much cheaper when you can just steal the data — but even if you take that quarter-million-dollar figure and multiply it by eight, you still fall short of the $5 million cost of a mid-tier armed drone like the Army’s MQ-1C Grey Eagle.
So we can be better sure that China’s not buying an invincible robot army. But Beijing doesn’t need cutting edge tech to get real benefits. While the US is experimenting with highly autonomous and swarming robots, it’s worth remembering that the unarmed surveillance version of the Predator drone entered service 20 years ago.
“The underlying technology behind something like Predator or Reaper or a Global Hawk, it’s not that complicated,” Scharre told me. “China is obviously excellent at reverse engineering things across the board and a lot of what they’re doing looks kind of like that.”
Where China can innovate, however, is in operating drones with less infrastructure and overhead than the US military. “If they’re using drones for surveillance…. that doesn’t mean they need 90 analysts behind every drone orbit,” he said. They don’t even necessarily need communications satellites: “China doesn’t have to project power around the globe like we do in places like Afghanistan, they’re looking to project power locally” — over the Senkaku Islands, say, or the Scarborough Shoal, or the Himalayas — “so they may be able to do with line-of-sight [radio] networks and relay networks using other drones.” (Because drones can loiter longer in the air than manned aircraft, they make good flying antennas).
China’s essentially catching up to where the US was a few years ago. That’s impressive but not world-shaking. The danger comes from American complacency and under-investment, Scharre warned. The Air Force has “zero dollars” in its budget plans for new drone models, he said, although the secrecy-shrouded Long-Range Strike Bomber may be “optionally manned.” The Navy is developing a carrier-launched combat drone called UCLASS, but it’s on hold because of debates over whether it should be an armed scout or a high-end bomber. Meanwhile, said Scharre, “there’s great stuff going on at places like ONR and DARPA, [but] crossing the valley of death into a program of record is pretty challenging.”
“I wouldn’t look to China to be developing the most cutting-edge technology [themselves],” Scharre said, “but they may well capitalize on things that we fail to do: really cutting-edge things that are developed in US labs or other countries that we don’t move forward with.”
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http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/u...y-planes-by-2023/story-fnh81fz8-1227433969835
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US predicts 42,000 unmanned Chinese military planes by 2023
by: Ian McPhedran national defence writer
July 08, 2015 10:00PM
New development ... The Chinese Lijan UAV. Picture: Supplied
New development ... The Chinese Lijan UAV. Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied
THE United States claims its arch superpower rival China is poised to become the world leader in unmanned military aircraft with up to 42,000 pilotless aircraft aloft by 2023.
According to the United States Defense Department’s latest report on China’s military build-up the “Middle Kingdom” will spend more than $10 billion on land and sea based unmanned aircraft.
These will include fixed wing and rotary aircraft to conduct surveillance, attack and even air combat missions.
Stolen blueprint? ... China’s Yilong UAV bears a strong resemblance to the US Reaper. Pic
Stolen blueprint? ... China’s Yilong UAV bears a strong resemblance to the US Reaper. Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied
“The acquisition and development of longer-range UAVs will increase China’s ability to conduct long-range reconnaissance and strike operations,” the Pentagon report says.
Three of the systems being developed by China — the Yilong, Sky Saber and Lijian — are capable of launching precision strike missiles.
According to a US Naval Intelligence report the People’s Liberation Army (Navy) — the PLA(N) — would most likely emerge as the most prolific user of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs).
China potential ... The Austrian built Camcopter S-100 under test with China’s Navy. Pict
China potential ... The Austrian built Camcopter S-100 under test with China’s Navy. Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied
“In addition to land based systems the PLA(N) is also pursuing ship-based UAVs as a supplement to manned helicopters,” the report says.
“To date we have observed the PLA(N) operating the Austrian Camcopter S-100 rotary wing UAV from several surface combatants.”
In 2013 China revealed that it was developing four new types of UAVs including the Yilong and Lijian which look very similar to US built aircraft such as the General Atomics Reaper and the Northrop Grumman X-47B carrier based Unmanned Air Combat Vehicle (UCAV).
Way of the future ... A X47-B Navy drone touches down aboard the nuclear aircraft carrier
Way of the future ... A X47-B Navy drone touches down aboard the nuclear aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush off the Coast of Virginia. Picture: AP /Steve Helber) Source: AP
The Lijian, also known as “sharp sword”, is a stealthy flying wing design that first flew in November 2013 and is very similar to the X-47B that has been operated from a US aircraft carrier.
China is notorious for stealing and copying ideas and even military blueprints and it operates a massive cyber warfare department to conduct such activities.
The Pentagon report also warned that China’s military modernisation had “the potential to reduce core US military technological advantages.”
We want it ... The US Navy Triton unmanned aerial vehicle is the clear favourite for Aust
We want it ... The US Navy Triton unmanned aerial vehicle is the clear favourite for Australia’s $2.5 billion contract to provide wide area surveillance aircraft to the RAAF. Picture supplied. Source: Supplied
UAV expert at RMIT University in Melbourne David Schaefer, who published a report on China’s drone build-up earlier this year, said the US assessment was probably exaggerated and he doubted that China would ever have 42,000 UAVs.
“The 42,000 figure is probably unrealistic especially as the limitations of drone technology become more apparent to the Chinese,” Mr Schaefer said.
He said the major impediment to drone development was cyber warfare and protecting on board and design computer systems from cyber attacks.
Advanced technology ... The Fire Scout unmanned helicopter built by Northrop Grumman oper
Advanced technology ... The Fire Scout unmanned helicopter built by Northrop Grumman operating on board US Navy ships this year. Picture supplied. Source: Supplied
The other key aspect, he said, was China’s obsession with intimidating other countries by mounting displays of military technology that didn’t actually work very well.
The Pentagon report also raised alarm bells about the scale of modernisation being undertaken by the People’s Liberation Army air force.
“The PLA air force is rapidly closing the gap with western air forces across a broad spectrum of capabilities from aircraft, C2, to jammers, to electronic warfare (EW), to datalinks,” it said.
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by: Ian McPhedran national defence writer
July 08, 2015 10:00PM
New development ... The Chinese Lijan UAV. Picture: Supplied
New development ... The Chinese Lijan UAV. Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied
THE United States claims its arch superpower rival China is poised to become the world leader in unmanned military aircraft with up to 42,000 pilotless aircraft aloft by 2023.
According to the United States Defense Department’s latest report on China’s military build-up the “Middle Kingdom” will spend more than $10 billion on land and sea based unmanned aircraft.
These will include fixed wing and rotary aircraft to conduct surveillance, attack and even air combat missions.
Stolen blueprint? ... China’s Yilong UAV bears a strong resemblance to the US Reaper. Pic
Stolen blueprint? ... China’s Yilong UAV bears a strong resemblance to the US Reaper. Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied
“The acquisition and development of longer-range UAVs will increase China’s ability to conduct long-range reconnaissance and strike operations,” the Pentagon report says.
Three of the systems being developed by China — the Yilong, Sky Saber and Lijian — are capable of launching precision strike missiles.
According to a US Naval Intelligence report the People’s Liberation Army (Navy) — the PLA(N) — would most likely emerge as the most prolific user of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs).
China potential ... The Austrian built Camcopter S-100 under test with China’s Navy. Pict
China potential ... The Austrian built Camcopter S-100 under test with China’s Navy. Picture: Supplied Source: Supplied
“In addition to land based systems the PLA(N) is also pursuing ship-based UAVs as a supplement to manned helicopters,” the report says.
“To date we have observed the PLA(N) operating the Austrian Camcopter S-100 rotary wing UAV from several surface combatants.”
In 2013 China revealed that it was developing four new types of UAVs including the Yilong and Lijian which look very similar to US built aircraft such as the General Atomics Reaper and the Northrop Grumman X-47B carrier based Unmanned Air Combat Vehicle (UCAV).
Way of the future ... A X47-B Navy drone touches down aboard the nuclear aircraft carrier
Way of the future ... A X47-B Navy drone touches down aboard the nuclear aircraft carrier USS George H.W. Bush off the Coast of Virginia. Picture: AP /Steve Helber) Source: AP
The Lijian, also known as “sharp sword”, is a stealthy flying wing design that first flew in November 2013 and is very similar to the X-47B that has been operated from a US aircraft carrier.
China is notorious for stealing and copying ideas and even military blueprints and it operates a massive cyber warfare department to conduct such activities.
The Pentagon report also warned that China’s military modernisation had “the potential to reduce core US military technological advantages.”
We want it ... The US Navy Triton unmanned aerial vehicle is the clear favourite for Aust
We want it ... The US Navy Triton unmanned aerial vehicle is the clear favourite for Australia’s $2.5 billion contract to provide wide area surveillance aircraft to the RAAF. Picture supplied. Source: Supplied
UAV expert at RMIT University in Melbourne David Schaefer, who published a report on China’s drone build-up earlier this year, said the US assessment was probably exaggerated and he doubted that China would ever have 42,000 UAVs.
“The 42,000 figure is probably unrealistic especially as the limitations of drone technology become more apparent to the Chinese,” Mr Schaefer said.
He said the major impediment to drone development was cyber warfare and protecting on board and design computer systems from cyber attacks.
Advanced technology ... The Fire Scout unmanned helicopter built by Northrop Grumman oper
Advanced technology ... The Fire Scout unmanned helicopter built by Northrop Grumman operating on board US Navy ships this year. Picture supplied. Source: Supplied
The other key aspect, he said, was China’s obsession with intimidating other countries by mounting displays of military technology that didn’t actually work very well.
The Pentagon report also raised alarm bells about the scale of modernisation being undertaken by the People’s Liberation Army air force.
“The PLA air force is rapidly closing the gap with western air forces across a broad spectrum of capabilities from aircraft, C2, to jammers, to electronic warfare (EW), to datalinks,” it said.
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Eyeing exports, China steps up research into military drones
BEIJING | By Megha Rajagopalan
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China is stepping up research into military drones as its arms industry looks to increase export volumes, hoping to gain traction with cheaper technology and a willingness to sell to countries Western states are reluctant to.
While its technology lags the United States and Israel, the biggest vendors of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), China is attracting a growing list of foreign buyers including Nigeria, Pakistan and Egypt.
China has previously had limited success exporting manned military aircraft but is hoping to do better with UAVs given they are cheaper and easier to manufacture.
"Research and development on drones in our country has now entered a phase of high-speed progress," said Xu Guangyu, a retired major general in the People's Liberation Army.
"We have some distance to catch up with developed countries — that's certain — but the export market is growing."
Market researcher Forecast International pegged the value of production for military drones worldwide at $942 million last year. It will grow to $2.3 billion by 2023, the firm said.
China's biggest drone maker, Aviation Industry Corp of China (Avic), is predicted by Forecast to become the world's largest maker of military drones by 2023.
Its Wing Loong drone sells for just $1 million according to Chinese media reports. The U.S.-made MQ-9 Reaper, to which it has sometimes been compared, is priced at around $30 million.
The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI)estimates China became the second country in the world to openly export armed drones when it delivered five of them to Nigeria in 2014. Nigeria, which had vainly sought UAV from the U.S., has used them against the militant group Boko Haram.
The U.S. has only exported armed drones to Britain and says it considers a series of factors when agreeing to foreign sales including human rights and the regional power balance.
Though China is discreet about its weapons exports, it has sold various types of military drones to at least nine countries, according to state media reports, including Pakistan, Egypt and Nigeria.
SOUGHT AFTER TECHNOLOGY
China's weapons exports jumped 143 percent in the five years to 2014 compared to the previous five, though it still only accounts for around 5 percent of the global arms market according to SIPRI.
Military drones provide an opportunity for the country to gain more market share given dozens of governments are trying to gain access to the technology while the U.S. has strict export curbs on them.
The U.S. State Department said in February it would allow exports of armed U.S. military drones under strict conditions, including that sales must be made through government programs, and that recipient nations must agree to certain "end-use assurances".
China's Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the country's policy on drone exports.
Last month the ministry said China was "extremely cautious and responsible" with its weapons exports, and followed the principle of aiding countries that bought their weapons in building reasonable self-defence capabilities.
The growth of the market is proving a boon for Chinese arms makers.
Yun Jianfei, the Beijing-based chief of Beijing Heweiyongtai Science and Technology Co. Ltd., a private firm that sells police equipment, including drones, to domestic and foreign customers, said he had already sold surveillance UAVs to countries in the Middle East and Africa, without specifying which ones.
"We're placing high importance on them," said Yun.
"Demand for all of our products has shot up -- it's simply because the world has become more chaotic," he said.
Ma Hangzhong, director of China Aerospace Science and Industry Corp.'s Unmanned Aircraft Research Institute, told the official China Daily this month that many of China's defense giants, including his own, are allocating "significant resources" to drone development.
"The industry has a very low entry threshold," he said, adding his company is focusing on military drones that can play a role in counter-terrorism and riot control operations.
Many defense firms also make and sell missiles and rockets to arm drones, heightening the appeal for international buyers, analysts said.
"Admittedly our technology is not first-rate compared with developed countries, but we don't want to be left behind," said Ni Lexiong, a naval expert at the Shanghai University of Political Science and Law.
(Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard, Siva Govindasamy in SINGAPORE and Katharine Houreld in ISLAMABAD; Editing by Rachel Armstrong)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/29/us-china-drones-idUSKBN0NK2SK20150429
Eyeing exports, China steps up research into military drones
BEIJING | By Megha Rajagopalan
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China is stepping up research into military drones as its arms industry looks to increase export volumes, hoping to gain traction with cheaper technology and a willingness to sell to countries Western states are reluctant to.
While its technology lags the United States and Israel, the biggest vendors of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), China is attracting a growing list of foreign buyers including Nigeria, Pakistan and Egypt.
China has previously had limited success exporting manned military aircraft but is hoping to do better with UAVs given they are cheaper and easier to manufacture.
"Research and development on drones in our country has now entered a phase of high-speed progress," said Xu Guangyu, a retired major general in the People's Liberation Army.
"We have some distance to catch up with developed countries — that's certain — but the export market is growing."
Market researcher Forecast International pegged the value of production for military drones worldwide at $942 million last year. It will grow to $2.3 billion by 2023, the firm said.
China's biggest drone maker, Aviation Industry Corp of China (Avic), is predicted by Forecast to become the world's largest maker of military drones by 2023.
Its Wing Loong drone sells for just $1 million according to Chinese media reports. The U.S.-made MQ-9 Reaper, to which it has sometimes been compared, is priced at around $30 million.
The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI)estimates China became the second country in the world to openly export armed drones when it delivered five of them to Nigeria in 2014. Nigeria, which had vainly sought UAV from the U.S., has used them against the militant group Boko Haram.
The U.S. has only exported armed drones to Britain and says it considers a series of factors when agreeing to foreign sales including human rights and the regional power balance.
Though China is discreet about its weapons exports, it has sold various types of military drones to at least nine countries, according to state media reports, including Pakistan, Egypt and Nigeria.
SOUGHT AFTER TECHNOLOGY
China's weapons exports jumped 143 percent in the five years to 2014 compared to the previous five, though it still only accounts for around 5 percent of the global arms market according to SIPRI.
Military drones provide an opportunity for the country to gain more market share given dozens of governments are trying to gain access to the technology while the U.S. has strict export curbs on them.
The U.S. State Department said in February it would allow exports of armed U.S. military drones under strict conditions, including that sales must be made through government programs, and that recipient nations must agree to certain "end-use assurances".
China's Foreign Ministry declined to comment on the country's policy on drone exports.
Last month the ministry said China was "extremely cautious and responsible" with its weapons exports, and followed the principle of aiding countries that bought their weapons in building reasonable self-defence capabilities.
The growth of the market is proving a boon for Chinese arms makers.
Yun Jianfei, the Beijing-based chief of Beijing Heweiyongtai Science and Technology Co. Ltd., a private firm that sells police equipment, including drones, to domestic and foreign customers, said he had already sold surveillance UAVs to countries in the Middle East and Africa, without specifying which ones.
"We're placing high importance on them," said Yun.
"Demand for all of our products has shot up -- it's simply because the world has become more chaotic," he said.
Ma Hangzhong, director of China Aerospace Science and Industry Corp.'s Unmanned Aircraft Research Institute, told the official China Daily this month that many of China's defense giants, including his own, are allocating "significant resources" to drone development.
"The industry has a very low entry threshold," he said, adding his company is focusing on military drones that can play a role in counter-terrorism and riot control operations.
Many defense firms also make and sell missiles and rockets to arm drones, heightening the appeal for international buyers, analysts said.
"Admittedly our technology is not first-rate compared with developed countries, but we don't want to be left behind," said Ni Lexiong, a naval expert at the Shanghai University of Political Science and Law.
(Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard, Siva Govindasamy in SINGAPORE and Katharine Houreld in ISLAMABAD; Editing by Rachel Armstrong)
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Pakistan shoots down Chinese drone claiming it to be Indian UAV
VASUDEVAN-SRIDHARAN
By Vasudevan Sridharan
July 19, 2015 10:32 BST
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An Indian Border Security Force (BSF) soldier patrols near the fenced border with Pakistan in Suchetgarh, southwest of Jammu.(Mukesh Gupta/Reuters)
The drone shot down by the Pakistani military, which was earlier claimed to have been an Indian unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), has turned out to be of Chinese origin.
The embarrassment to Islamabad authorities came just after Chinese reports revealed the doomed drone was a Chinese-made DJI Phantom-3.
The Shanghai-based website Observer was cited by Beijing's state-run media outlet, People's Daily, as confirming the drone shot down "by Pakistani military was recognised in Beijing as the Chinese-made DJI Phantom 3".
The report went on to say: "Observer says the drone sells for $1,200 each," adding that it is the "most powerful and most accessible" drone till date.
Tensions between the nuclear-armed neighbours, India and Pakistan have risen in recent weeks amid ceasefire violations in the border region. The drone incident has also raised serious concerns despite a meeting of the prime ministers of both the countries on the sidelines of the Ufa summit in Russia.
The Pakistani military earlier said: "An Indian spy drone was shot down by Pakistani troops which intruded into Pakistan along [the Line of Control] near Bhimber today. The spy drone is used for aerial photography." Islamabad also summoned the Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan over the episode.
Nevertheless, the claim was immediately refuted by the Indian authorities saying the aircraft did not belong to the Indian forces.
New Delhi's Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar said: "We have seen the pictures. It looks like a Chinese drone, available off the shelf. It is not of Indian design, not of any unmanned aerial vehicle category held in Indian inventory."
It has also come at a time Pakistan and China are strategically moving closer towards each other strengthening their bilateral ties.
The makers of the drone have sent a clarification pertaining to the incident. A DJI statement read: "We're an independent company that is focused on the creative and innovative uses of drones. We are proud that our products have been used for a wide range of applications including film-making, agriculture, wedding photography, real estate, firefighting and search and rescue."
"Military and security applications are not a focus for us. Additionally, we are not affiliated with any governments."
Story updated on 22 July with DJI's comments
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Pakistan shoots down Chinese drone claiming it to be Indian UAV
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By Vasudevan Sridharan
July 19, 2015 10:32 BST
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An Indian Border Security Force (BSF) soldier patrols near the fenced border with Pakistan in Suchetgarh, southwest of Jammu.(Mukesh Gupta/Reuters)
The drone shot down by the Pakistani military, which was earlier claimed to have been an Indian unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), has turned out to be of Chinese origin.
The embarrassment to Islamabad authorities came just after Chinese reports revealed the doomed drone was a Chinese-made DJI Phantom-3.
The Shanghai-based website Observer was cited by Beijing's state-run media outlet, People's Daily, as confirming the drone shot down "by Pakistani military was recognised in Beijing as the Chinese-made DJI Phantom 3".
The report went on to say: "Observer says the drone sells for $1,200 each," adding that it is the "most powerful and most accessible" drone till date.
Tensions between the nuclear-armed neighbours, India and Pakistan have risen in recent weeks amid ceasefire violations in the border region. The drone incident has also raised serious concerns despite a meeting of the prime ministers of both the countries on the sidelines of the Ufa summit in Russia.
The Pakistani military earlier said: "An Indian spy drone was shot down by Pakistani troops which intruded into Pakistan along [the Line of Control] near Bhimber today. The spy drone is used for aerial photography." Islamabad also summoned the Indian High Commissioner to Pakistan over the episode.
Nevertheless, the claim was immediately refuted by the Indian authorities saying the aircraft did not belong to the Indian forces.
New Delhi's Foreign Secretary S Jaishankar said: "We have seen the pictures. It looks like a Chinese drone, available off the shelf. It is not of Indian design, not of any unmanned aerial vehicle category held in Indian inventory."
It has also come at a time Pakistan and China are strategically moving closer towards each other strengthening their bilateral ties.
The makers of the drone have sent a clarification pertaining to the incident. A DJI statement read: "We're an independent company that is focused on the creative and innovative uses of drones. We are proud that our products have been used for a wide range of applications including film-making, agriculture, wedding photography, real estate, firefighting and search and rescue."
"Military and security applications are not a focus for us. Additionally, we are not affiliated with any governments."
Story updated on 22 July with DJI's comments
More about India-Pakistan tensions
Pakistan PM blames India for domestic terror attacks in veiled remarks
India: 'Pakistani' Militants Dressed as Cricketers Kill Five Troops in Kashmir
India Threatens to Retaliate Against Pakistan over Ceasefire Violations
India Accuses Pakistani Troops of Killing and Beheading Border Guards in Kashmir
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Could China Hack U.S. Military Drones?
New book explores possibilities and motives
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CHICAGO – July 2, 2014 – With the NSA hacking every wireless device on Earth what would stop another country – let’s say China – from hacking into wireless devices also – like U.S.
military drones for example? “Nothing” says Edward Ben-Alec, cryptography
expert and author of a new book entitled Hacking the President.
“”Un-hackable” is a phrase used to sucker funders and buyers into paying for new technology.
Un-hackable wireless technology is a myth and U.S. military drones are no exception” according to Ben-Alec, who holds a U.S. patent in cryptography. Ben-Alec’s fictional techno-thriller explores a plot by rogue Chinese scientists to hack not only U.S. drones but the mind of the President.
In 2044 America elects its first female Asian-American President – once an orphan
abandoned in China and adopted in the United States, according to the story. The
Chinese find a way to manipulate the President by electronic means with a plan
to take control of U.S. weaponry and attack America from within. “Although the
book is a work of fiction, most of the technology described actually exists
today and could surely be employed as described by people with
sufficient technological skill, motivation and resources at some time in the
future. The Chinese for example. In the Year 2044 for example” claims Ben-Alec.
“Un-hackability is a myth because there is always somebody smarter” according to Ben-Alec.
“Just look at history. Every system claiming to be un-hackable in the past has eventually been hacked. From Germany’s Enigma to today’s “secure” smartphones – any and every system created by smart people can be unraveled by smarter people. Military contractors have siphoned billions upon billions of dollars from national governments claiming impenetrability – only to return at a later time for more money to replace their hacked systems. Neither the U.S. military nor its drones are impervious to hacking and anybody who tells you anything to the contrary just wants your money” says Ben-Alec.
Hacking the President also explores the factual, non-fiction history of China’s motivations for seemingly seeking to dominate the world today. For 100 years beginning in the early 1800s China was dominated, subjugated, addicted to opium and essentially raped by cash-hungry western powers. “The “Eight-Nation Alliance” consisting of Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, Britain and U.S. military forces invaded China in 1900 – merely because China acted
against being taken advantage of. This was the seed for China’s motives and agenda of today” according to Ben-Alec.
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Could China Hack U.S. Military Drones?
New book explores possibilities and motives
@WarWithChina
CHICAGO – July 2, 2014 – With the NSA hacking every wireless device on Earth what would stop another country – let’s say China – from hacking into wireless devices also – like U.S.
military drones for example? “Nothing” says Edward Ben-Alec, cryptography
expert and author of a new book entitled Hacking the President.
“”Un-hackable” is a phrase used to sucker funders and buyers into paying for new technology.
Un-hackable wireless technology is a myth and U.S. military drones are no exception” according to Ben-Alec, who holds a U.S. patent in cryptography. Ben-Alec’s fictional techno-thriller explores a plot by rogue Chinese scientists to hack not only U.S. drones but the mind of the President.
In 2044 America elects its first female Asian-American President – once an orphan
abandoned in China and adopted in the United States, according to the story. The
Chinese find a way to manipulate the President by electronic means with a plan
to take control of U.S. weaponry and attack America from within. “Although the
book is a work of fiction, most of the technology described actually exists
today and could surely be employed as described by people with
sufficient technological skill, motivation and resources at some time in the
future. The Chinese for example. In the Year 2044 for example” claims Ben-Alec.
“Un-hackability is a myth because there is always somebody smarter” according to Ben-Alec.
“Just look at history. Every system claiming to be un-hackable in the past has eventually been hacked. From Germany’s Enigma to today’s “secure” smartphones – any and every system created by smart people can be unraveled by smarter people. Military contractors have siphoned billions upon billions of dollars from national governments claiming impenetrability – only to return at a later time for more money to replace their hacked systems. Neither the U.S. military nor its drones are impervious to hacking and anybody who tells you anything to the contrary just wants your money” says Ben-Alec.
Hacking the President also explores the factual, non-fiction history of China’s motivations for seemingly seeking to dominate the world today. For 100 years beginning in the early 1800s China was dominated, subjugated, addicted to opium and essentially raped by cash-hungry western powers. “The “Eight-Nation Alliance” consisting of Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, Britain and U.S. military forces invaded China in 1900 – merely because China acted
against being taken advantage of. This was the seed for China’s motives and agenda of today” according to Ben-Alec.
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China’s First Drone War Is Here
The United States is not exactly happy about Beijing’s drone proliferation. But, in this one case, it’s been strangely helpful.
The United States is still by far the world’s leader in the field of military drones, with hundreds of high-tech, missile- and bomb-armed robot aircraft and thousands of smaller, unarmed models deployed across the planet.
But China is catching up fast. And now we can confirm that Beijing’s remote-controlled warplanes have had their combat debut—in a seemingly unlikely place. A social media post seems to verify what observers have suspected since January: China’s killer robots are at war in Nigeria, apparently helping Abuja’s military battle the deadly Boko Haram extremist group, which controls much of northeastern Nigeria and has kidnapped and enslaved hundreds of girls.
The first evidence that the Nigerian air force had gotten its hands on Chinese-made unmanned aerial vehicles came on Jan. 27 this year, when Twitter users in Nigeria’s Borno state, in the war-torn northeast, posted photos of what appeared to be a crashed drone.
And not just any drone. The wreckage matched the profile of a CH-3—boomerang-shaped, roughly 25 feet from wingtip to wingtip and powered by a rear-mounted “pusher” propeller. Capable of flying an estimated 12 hours at a time at a cruising speed of around 150 miles per hour, the camera-equipped CH-3 is a “a capable system. Not cutting edge, but capable,” according to Peter W. Singer, a drone expert at the New America Foundation and the author of several books, including the newly released Ghost Fleet.
Most surprisingly, the crashed drone in Borno was packing a pair of what looked like AR-1 air-to-ground missiles under its wings. The January Tweets were the first indication ever that armed Chinese drones had flown in combat. America’s own unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, have been flying strike missions since late 2001.
China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, which makes the CH-3, did not respond to an email seeking confirmation of the CH-3 sighting. Nor did the Nigerian air force. On July 24, Nigerian news outlet Naija247news posted a story online featuring several photos of Air Vice Marshal Sadique Baba Abubakar, a top air force official, visiting a military airfield in Yola in northeast Nigeria.
One of the photos depicts Abubakar inspecting—you guessed it—a CH-3 drone.
To be sure, Chinese officials have been saying for years that they would happily sell UAVs to, well, pretty much anyone—meeting a demand for robotic warplanes that the United States refuses to satisfy. Export laws bar American companies such as General Atomics, which manufactures the iconic Predator and Reaper, from selling to many countries.
“The United States has a responsibility to ensure that sales, transfers and subsequent use of all U.S.-origin [drones] are responsible and consistent with U.S. national security and foreign policy interests, including economic security, as well as with U.S. values and international standards,” the State Department explained in a February press release.
Chinese officials have been saying for years that they would happily sell drones to pretty much anyone—meeting a demand for robotic warplanes that the United States refuses to satisfy.
“Recipients are to use these systems in accordance with international law, including international humanitarian law and international human rights law,” the State Depatment added.
That would disqualify Nigeria, whose military and police can be as brutal as the insurgents they fight. “In its response to Boko Haram, and at times to crime in general, security services perpetrated extrajudicial killings and engaged in torture, rape, arbitrary detention, mistreatment of detainees, and destruction of property,” the State Department said in a 2014 human rights report.
Washington has been keen to help Abuja battle Boko Haram, but has been reluctant to arm Nigerian troops. Last year, Goodluck Jonathan—then Nigeria’s president—proposed to buy U.S.-made Cobra gunship helicopters, with Israel acting as the middleman. But the United States nixed the deal.
Instead, in May 2014 the U.S. Air Force deployed a Reaper drone squadron to Chad, on Nigeria’s eastern border, and flew the Reapers—without its weapons—over Nigeria to help locate Boko Haram fighters.
In April, Michael Lumpkin—the senior Pentagon official for special operations—told a Senate subcommittee that the drone ops in Nigeria were “exerting significant pressure” on Boko Haram. (PDF)
Captain Tamara Fischer Carter, a U.S. Africa Command spokesperson, confirmed that the drones are still flying over Nigeria and feeding intel to officials in Abuja via the U.S. embassy. “Our intent is to build partner capacity in this region so they are more capable of managing the threat posed by Boko Haram,” she told The Daily Beast.
The Reapers weren’t alone. Nigeria has possessed at least two CH-3s—the one that crashed and the second example in the hangar at Yola—plus missiles to arm them and the ground stations to steer the robots via satellite. It’s unclear whether Nigerian operators or Chinese contractors actually controled the drones.
In any event, with unarmed American robots and armed Chinese models flying top cover, Nigerian troops and warplanes have stepped up their attacks on Boko Haram. In July, air force attack planes bombed Boko Haram positions in Dikwa, a village in Borno state. The air raids “paved the way for the Nigerian army to move in and recapture the town with less resistance,” Naija247news reported.
The air force also destroyed a smuggling outpost on the Nigeria-Cameroon border allegedly supplying fuel to Boko Haram. The Nigerian air arm “was able to achieve the recent feat through its air patrol activities, covering both land and water,” a military spokesperson told a Nigerian news outlet.
In perhaps the most encouraging sign that Nigeria and its drone helpers are making progress against the militants, on Aug. 2 Abuja’s army claimed it had freed 178 hostages, including 101 children, from Boko Haram camps.
Some U.S. officials worry that Chinese drones could beat out American models on the world market and give authoritarian regimes and U.S. rivals access to the same high-tech capabilities that Washington would prefer to belong only to America’s closest allies.
“China is advancing its development and employment of UAVs,” the Pentagon concluded in the latest edition of its official report on Chinese military capabilities. “Some estimates indicate China plans to produce upwards of 41,800 land- and sea-based unmanned systems, worth about $10.5 billion, between 2014 and 2023.” (PDF)
The RAND Corporation, a California think tank with close ties to the U.S. Air Force, warned that the spread of Chinese drones “could have worrisome implications for United States.” (PDF)
But in Nigeria, Chinese missile-drones are apparently helping the government beat a militant slavery ring that the United States also wants to defeat. And while the Nigeria war zone gave Beijing’s UAVs their first shot at combat, there are sure to be many more opportunities for robotic warfare in coming years. “China is becoming one of world’s bigger producers and exporters of drones,” Singer said, “so we shouldn’t be surprised to see its systems popping up in more and more war zones around the world.”
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China’s First Drone War Is Here
The United States is not exactly happy about Beijing’s drone proliferation. But, in this one case, it’s been strangely helpful.
The United States is still by far the world’s leader in the field of military drones, with hundreds of high-tech, missile- and bomb-armed robot aircraft and thousands of smaller, unarmed models deployed across the planet.
But China is catching up fast. And now we can confirm that Beijing’s remote-controlled warplanes have had their combat debut—in a seemingly unlikely place. A social media post seems to verify what observers have suspected since January: China’s killer robots are at war in Nigeria, apparently helping Abuja’s military battle the deadly Boko Haram extremist group, which controls much of northeastern Nigeria and has kidnapped and enslaved hundreds of girls.
The first evidence that the Nigerian air force had gotten its hands on Chinese-made unmanned aerial vehicles came on Jan. 27 this year, when Twitter users in Nigeria’s Borno state, in the war-torn northeast, posted photos of what appeared to be a crashed drone.
And not just any drone. The wreckage matched the profile of a CH-3—boomerang-shaped, roughly 25 feet from wingtip to wingtip and powered by a rear-mounted “pusher” propeller. Capable of flying an estimated 12 hours at a time at a cruising speed of around 150 miles per hour, the camera-equipped CH-3 is a “a capable system. Not cutting edge, but capable,” according to Peter W. Singer, a drone expert at the New America Foundation and the author of several books, including the newly released Ghost Fleet.
Most surprisingly, the crashed drone in Borno was packing a pair of what looked like AR-1 air-to-ground missiles under its wings. The January Tweets were the first indication ever that armed Chinese drones had flown in combat. America’s own unmanned aerial vehicles, or UAVs, have been flying strike missions since late 2001.
China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, which makes the CH-3, did not respond to an email seeking confirmation of the CH-3 sighting. Nor did the Nigerian air force. On July 24, Nigerian news outlet Naija247news posted a story online featuring several photos of Air Vice Marshal Sadique Baba Abubakar, a top air force official, visiting a military airfield in Yola in northeast Nigeria.
One of the photos depicts Abubakar inspecting—you guessed it—a CH-3 drone.
To be sure, Chinese officials have been saying for years that they would happily sell UAVs to, well, pretty much anyone—meeting a demand for robotic warplanes that the United States refuses to satisfy. Export laws bar American companies such as General Atomics, which manufactures the iconic Predator and Reaper, from selling to many countries.
“The United States has a responsibility to ensure that sales, transfers and subsequent use of all U.S.-origin [drones] are responsible and consistent with U.S. national security and foreign policy interests, including economic security, as well as with U.S. values and international standards,” the State Department explained in a February press release.
Chinese officials have been saying for years that they would happily sell drones to pretty much anyone—meeting a demand for robotic warplanes that the United States refuses to satisfy.
“Recipients are to use these systems in accordance with international law, including international humanitarian law and international human rights law,” the State Depatment added.
That would disqualify Nigeria, whose military and police can be as brutal as the insurgents they fight. “In its response to Boko Haram, and at times to crime in general, security services perpetrated extrajudicial killings and engaged in torture, rape, arbitrary detention, mistreatment of detainees, and destruction of property,” the State Department said in a 2014 human rights report.
Washington has been keen to help Abuja battle Boko Haram, but has been reluctant to arm Nigerian troops. Last year, Goodluck Jonathan—then Nigeria’s president—proposed to buy U.S.-made Cobra gunship helicopters, with Israel acting as the middleman. But the United States nixed the deal.
Instead, in May 2014 the U.S. Air Force deployed a Reaper drone squadron to Chad, on Nigeria’s eastern border, and flew the Reapers—without its weapons—over Nigeria to help locate Boko Haram fighters.
In April, Michael Lumpkin—the senior Pentagon official for special operations—told a Senate subcommittee that the drone ops in Nigeria were “exerting significant pressure” on Boko Haram. (PDF)
Captain Tamara Fischer Carter, a U.S. Africa Command spokesperson, confirmed that the drones are still flying over Nigeria and feeding intel to officials in Abuja via the U.S. embassy. “Our intent is to build partner capacity in this region so they are more capable of managing the threat posed by Boko Haram,” she told The Daily Beast.
The Reapers weren’t alone. Nigeria has possessed at least two CH-3s—the one that crashed and the second example in the hangar at Yola—plus missiles to arm them and the ground stations to steer the robots via satellite. It’s unclear whether Nigerian operators or Chinese contractors actually controled the drones.
In any event, with unarmed American robots and armed Chinese models flying top cover, Nigerian troops and warplanes have stepped up their attacks on Boko Haram. In July, air force attack planes bombed Boko Haram positions in Dikwa, a village in Borno state. The air raids “paved the way for the Nigerian army to move in and recapture the town with less resistance,” Naija247news reported.
The air force also destroyed a smuggling outpost on the Nigeria-Cameroon border allegedly supplying fuel to Boko Haram. The Nigerian air arm “was able to achieve the recent feat through its air patrol activities, covering both land and water,” a military spokesperson told a Nigerian news outlet.
In perhaps the most encouraging sign that Nigeria and its drone helpers are making progress against the militants, on Aug. 2 Abuja’s army claimed it had freed 178 hostages, including 101 children, from Boko Haram camps.
Some U.S. officials worry that Chinese drones could beat out American models on the world market and give authoritarian regimes and U.S. rivals access to the same high-tech capabilities that Washington would prefer to belong only to America’s closest allies.
“China is advancing its development and employment of UAVs,” the Pentagon concluded in the latest edition of its official report on Chinese military capabilities. “Some estimates indicate China plans to produce upwards of 41,800 land- and sea-based unmanned systems, worth about $10.5 billion, between 2014 and 2023.” (PDF)
The RAND Corporation, a California think tank with close ties to the U.S. Air Force, warned that the spread of Chinese drones “could have worrisome implications for United States.” (PDF)
But in Nigeria, Chinese missile-drones are apparently helping the government beat a militant slavery ring that the United States also wants to defeat. And while the Nigeria war zone gave Beijing’s UAVs their first shot at combat, there are sure to be many more opportunities for robotic warfare in coming years. “China is becoming one of world’s bigger producers and exporters of drones,” Singer said, “so we shouldn’t be surprised to see its systems popping up in more and more war zones around the world.”
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China building an army of unmanned military drones 'to rival the U.S.'
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America's success with unmanned military drones has sparked a 'global rush' for weaponised and surveillance aircrafts, according to a new report.
Over 50 countries have purchased surveillance drones or started their own development programmes to step up military capacity in recent years.
And experts say China, having only unveiled its first drone at an air show five years ago, is on the fast track to develop unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) that rival U.S. technology.
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Drone: The UAV WJ-600, unveiled at the Zhuhai air show in southern China in November
Drone: The UAV WJ-600, unveiled at the Zhuhai air show in southern China in November
Experts told the Washington Post America's 'cheap weapons, reconnaissance abilities, and ease of use, could make drones the standard for many application.'
The recent spike, they say, is 'because no nation is exporting weaponised drones beyond a handful of sales between the United States and its closest allies.' And China is seeking to take a piece of the market.
Twenty five UAVs were unveiled the Zhuhai air show in southern China last November, designed and produced by China's ASN Technology Group, China Aerospace Science and Industry Corp (CASIC), and China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp (CASC).
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At the show, a crowd gathered around an armed, jet-propelled drone called the WJ-600, where a video demonstrated the aircraft locating what appears to be a U.S. aircraft carrier group flying close to Taiwan.
The drone is shown sending targeting information back to shore for a follow-up attack.
Other models were designed to fire missiles, and one, powered by a jet engine, has the capability to fly faster than the Predator and Reaper drones the U.S. has used on missions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the report.
Cheaper alternative: America's Predator B, or MQ9-Reaper drone, costs about $10.5million, compared to an F-22 fighter jet's $150million price tag
Cheaper alternative: America's Predator B, or MQ9-Reaper drone, costs about $10.5million, compared to an F-22 fighter jet's $150million price tag
It was a record number for the country, which until recently, had not extended its military capacity to include UAVs.
The Wall Street Journal reported at the time that while military and aviation experts said China's drones are presumed to be several years behind the U.S., the country is on the fast track to catching up.
Retired Lieutenant General David A. Deptula, the former deputy chief of staff for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance at the Air Force, told the Washington Post: 'We are well ahead in having established systems actively in use. But the capability of other countries will do nothing but grow.'
The industry is expected to boom over the next decade; according to a 2011 market study by the Teal Group in Fairfax, global spending on drones will double to $94billion by 2021.
Much of China's progress remains secret.
Capabilities: The UAV WJ-600 was shown locating what appears to be a U.S. aircraft carrier group flying close to Taiwan in a video demonstration at the Zhuhai air show
Capabilities: The UAV WJ-600 was shown locating what appears to be a U.S. aircraft carrier group flying close to Taiwan in a video demonstration at the Zhuhai air show
In action: The unmanned drowne is shown sending targeting information back to shore for a follow-up attack
In action: The unmanned drowne is shown sending targeting information back to shore for a follow-up attack
Exhibitors of the 25 UAVs did not disclose which aircrafts were fully operational.
However, the Wall Street Journal confirmed at least two propeller-powered UAVs had been deployed by the People's Liberation Army (PLA).
Zhang Qiaoliang, a representative of the Chengdu Aircraft Design and Research Institute, which manufactures many of the most advanced military aircraft for the People’s Liberation Army, told the Washington Post: 'The United States doesn’t export many attack drones, so we’re taking advantage of that hole in the market.'
U.S. anxiety about China's UAVs was highlighted in a report released last November by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, reported the Journal.
Surveillance: The unmanned jet-propelled aerial vehicle narrows in on its target
Surveillance: The unmanned jet-propelled aerial vehicle narrows in on its target
Mission accomplished: The aircraft carrier is targeted and blasted with missiles off the coast of Taiwan
Mission accomplished: The aircraft carrier is targeted and blasted with missiles off the coast of Taiwan
'The PLA Air Force has deployed several types of unmanned aerial vehicles for both reconnaissance and combat purposes,' the report read.
It cited the Pentagon, continuing: 'In addition, China is developing a variety of medium and high-altitude long-endurance unmanned vehicles, which when deployed will expand the PLA Air Force's options for long-range reconnaissance and strikes.'
And other countries are following the lead; around the world UAVs are being seen as cheap and effective alternative to manned aircraft. America's Predator B, or MQ9-Reaper, manufactured by General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, costs about $10.5million, compared to an F-22 fighter jet's $150million price tag.
According to the Washington Post, Israel trails the U.S. as the second-largest drone manufacturer, and has flown armed models; India also announced this year it is developing armed drones that will fly at 30,000ft.
Russia has shown models of drones with weapons, but it is unknown if they are fully operational; and Pakistan has said it plans to obtain armed drones from China, according to the report.
Kenneth Anderson, a professor of law at American University who studies the legal questions surrounding the use of drones in warfare, said: 'This is the direction all aviation is going. Everybody will wind up using this technology because it’s going to become the standard for many, many applications of what are now manned aircraft.'
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China building an army of unmanned military drones 'to rival the U.S.'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Updated: 20:13 GMT, 5 July 2011
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America's success with unmanned military drones has sparked a 'global rush' for weaponised and surveillance aircrafts, according to a new report.
Over 50 countries have purchased surveillance drones or started their own development programmes to step up military capacity in recent years.
And experts say China, having only unveiled its first drone at an air show five years ago, is on the fast track to develop unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) that rival U.S. technology.
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Drone: The UAV WJ-600, unveiled at the Zhuhai air show in southern China in November
Drone: The UAV WJ-600, unveiled at the Zhuhai air show in southern China in November
Experts told the Washington Post America's 'cheap weapons, reconnaissance abilities, and ease of use, could make drones the standard for many application.'
The recent spike, they say, is 'because no nation is exporting weaponised drones beyond a handful of sales between the United States and its closest allies.' And China is seeking to take a piece of the market.
Twenty five UAVs were unveiled the Zhuhai air show in southern China last November, designed and produced by China's ASN Technology Group, China Aerospace Science and Industry Corp (CASIC), and China Aerospace Science and Technology Corp (CASC).
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At the show, a crowd gathered around an armed, jet-propelled drone called the WJ-600, where a video demonstrated the aircraft locating what appears to be a U.S. aircraft carrier group flying close to Taiwan.
The drone is shown sending targeting information back to shore for a follow-up attack.
Other models were designed to fire missiles, and one, powered by a jet engine, has the capability to fly faster than the Predator and Reaper drones the U.S. has used on missions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, according to the report.
Cheaper alternative: America's Predator B, or MQ9-Reaper drone, costs about $10.5million, compared to an F-22 fighter jet's $150million price tag
Cheaper alternative: America's Predator B, or MQ9-Reaper drone, costs about $10.5million, compared to an F-22 fighter jet's $150million price tag
It was a record number for the country, which until recently, had not extended its military capacity to include UAVs.
The Wall Street Journal reported at the time that while military and aviation experts said China's drones are presumed to be several years behind the U.S., the country is on the fast track to catching up.
Retired Lieutenant General David A. Deptula, the former deputy chief of staff for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance at the Air Force, told the Washington Post: 'We are well ahead in having established systems actively in use. But the capability of other countries will do nothing but grow.'
The industry is expected to boom over the next decade; according to a 2011 market study by the Teal Group in Fairfax, global spending on drones will double to $94billion by 2021.
Much of China's progress remains secret.
Capabilities: The UAV WJ-600 was shown locating what appears to be a U.S. aircraft carrier group flying close to Taiwan in a video demonstration at the Zhuhai air show
Capabilities: The UAV WJ-600 was shown locating what appears to be a U.S. aircraft carrier group flying close to Taiwan in a video demonstration at the Zhuhai air show
In action: The unmanned drowne is shown sending targeting information back to shore for a follow-up attack
In action: The unmanned drowne is shown sending targeting information back to shore for a follow-up attack
Exhibitors of the 25 UAVs did not disclose which aircrafts were fully operational.
However, the Wall Street Journal confirmed at least two propeller-powered UAVs had been deployed by the People's Liberation Army (PLA).
Zhang Qiaoliang, a representative of the Chengdu Aircraft Design and Research Institute, which manufactures many of the most advanced military aircraft for the People’s Liberation Army, told the Washington Post: 'The United States doesn’t export many attack drones, so we’re taking advantage of that hole in the market.'
U.S. anxiety about China's UAVs was highlighted in a report released last November by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission, reported the Journal.
Surveillance: The unmanned jet-propelled aerial vehicle narrows in on its target
Surveillance: The unmanned jet-propelled aerial vehicle narrows in on its target
Mission accomplished: The aircraft carrier is targeted and blasted with missiles off the coast of Taiwan
Mission accomplished: The aircraft carrier is targeted and blasted with missiles off the coast of Taiwan
'The PLA Air Force has deployed several types of unmanned aerial vehicles for both reconnaissance and combat purposes,' the report read.
It cited the Pentagon, continuing: 'In addition, China is developing a variety of medium and high-altitude long-endurance unmanned vehicles, which when deployed will expand the PLA Air Force's options for long-range reconnaissance and strikes.'
And other countries are following the lead; around the world UAVs are being seen as cheap and effective alternative to manned aircraft. America's Predator B, or MQ9-Reaper, manufactured by General Atomics Aeronautical Systems, costs about $10.5million, compared to an F-22 fighter jet's $150million price tag.
According to the Washington Post, Israel trails the U.S. as the second-largest drone manufacturer, and has flown armed models; India also announced this year it is developing armed drones that will fly at 30,000ft.
Russia has shown models of drones with weapons, but it is unknown if they are fully operational; and Pakistan has said it plans to obtain armed drones from China, according to the report.
Kenneth Anderson, a professor of law at American University who studies the legal questions surrounding the use of drones in warfare, said: 'This is the direction all aviation is going. Everybody will wind up using this technology because it’s going to become the standard for many, many applications of what are now manned aircraft.'
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Chinese show the look alike to scare the Ang Mohs, becos these works best for the purpose. What they are going to use to kill the Ang Mohs, they will NEVER show. This is Chinese style, you must know.
PRC is world's #1 drone superpower right now, no country can come near in the next 100 years. Their drones production expanded 250X in the last 2 years. Capabilities are very shocking. Their fleet of drones renewing ultra rapidly. Numbers are in millions. if they deployed their stocks there will be more than one drone per PLA soldier right now.
Chinese show the look alike to scare the Ang Mohs, becos these works best for the purpose. What they are going to use to kill the Ang Mohs, they will NEVER show. This is Chinese style, you must know.
PRC is world's #1 drone superpower right now, no country can come near in the next 100 years. Their drones production expanded 250X in the last 2 years. Capabilities are very shocking. Their fleet of drones renewing ultra rapidly. Numbers are in millions. if they deployed their stocks there will be more than one drone per PLA soldier right now.
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Bro, nothing against your pride in Chinese progress and advancements, but just wish to let you know, PRC and USA are never going to war with each other. They just want to get into each other's market. And furthermore, China and USA are not at loggerheads with one another, they've been friends since East met West, USA supported and was on China's side in WW2, USA corporations are located in Beijing and Shanghai, and PRC goods almost entirely occupy Walmart's shelves. I hear too now that GM, starting with Buick, is considering importing cars made in China to be sold in USA! The only thing that may prevent this the Yankee auto union. Except for a brief spate during the Korean War, both countries are on good terms, and that episode was because it was a Communism vs. Capitalism ideology situation, which is now over. USA has always been on good terms with the Chinese peoples, and took sides with Taiwan after the Chinese Civil War, for reasons we understand (again Communism).
China is progressing, and is no longer the poor, weak, sick man of Asia, and is a potential regional power. But "superpower" status will take more time. First, build up their aircraft carrier base, develop own jet engine, then let's see. I would prefer for PRC to build a superbike to compete with the world leader across the sea first. In the meantime, all countries, including both USA and PRC should sort their own shit and mess at home first before talking about destroying somebody else.
Also, all the military toys are mainly to keep their factories, shipyards, design houses employed. That's important.
Cheers!
Bro, nothing against your pride in Chinese progress and advancements, but just wish to let you know, PRC and USA are never going to war with each other. They just want to get into each other's market. And furthermore, China and USA are not at loggerheads with one another, they've been friends since East met West, USA supported and was on China's side in WW2, USA corporations are located in Beijing and Shanghai, and PRC goods almost entirely occupy Walmart's shelves. I hear too now that GM, starting with Buick, is considering importing cars made in China to be sold in USA! The only thing that may prevent this the Yankee auto union. Except for a brief spate during the Korean War, both countries are on good terms, and that episode was because it was a Communism vs. Capitalism ideology situation, which is now over. USA has always been on good terms with the Chinese peoples, and took sides with Taiwan after the Chinese Civil War, for reasons we understand (again Communism).
China is progressing, and is no longer the poor, weak, sick man of Asia, and is a potential regional power. But "superpower" status will take more time. First, build up their aircraft carrier base, develop own jet engine, then let's see. I would prefer for PRC to build a superbike to compete with the world leader across the sea first. In the meantime, all countries, including both USA and PRC should sort their own shit and mess at home first before talking about destroying somebody else.
Also, all the military toys are mainly to keep their factories, shipyards, design houses employed. That's important.
Cheers!
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Obama then Clinton will nuke the Chinks.
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