yours & loved ones HOTAed kidney being resold for profit by sinkie hospital...

[KopiO]

You are being naive. The PAP doesn't does not implement a policy without looking at the profit potential.
We are just digits to the PAP. Some of them have called Sporeans "lesser mortals".

Maybe I am naive. Now tell me how many political parties in the world do not look at "profit potential"?

 

[eatshitndie]

Maybe the HOTA should exclude idiots like some here. Just in case not only organs are transplanted......

the larger the population, the better the chances. we agree it's a number's game - that's why 10 million will help increase availability of organs and probability of a match. the more the merrier. idiotic organs are ok. they don't spend time on keyboards.

 

[ginfreely]

You are being naive. The PAP doesn't does not implement a policy without looking at the profit potential.
We are just digits to the PAP. Some of them have called Sporeans "lesser mortals".

Yes you are right. He/she is so naive. If really care for the people and not profit potential, then why only care at the point of organ transplant? Why no care during kidney dialysis stage and outsource this function to charity like NKF?

Shouldn't kidney dialysis be part of medical care and subsidised by govt? Why need charity to pay for the poor patients who cannot afford dialysis? I watched a documentary show before that Taiwan actually includes kidney dialysis in their medishield life equivalent program.

Come to think of it, which other countries have charity shows to ask for donations to cover kidney dialysis? If govt has taken up this function instead of being handled by charity, would there even be a NKF scandal?

 

[johnny333]

Maybe I am naive. Now tell me how many political parties in the world do not look at "profit potential"?

Exactly, it is human nature to take advantage & that is why you need more opposition in parliament to keep an eye on the PAP.

Unfortunately Sporeans trusted LKY & allowed him to build a famiLee business.

 

[johnny333]

Yes you are right. He/she is so naive. If really care for the people and not profit potential, then why only care at the point of organ transplant? Why no care during kidney dialysis stage and outsource this function to charity like NKF?

Shouldn't kidney dialysis be part of medical care and subsidised by govt? Why need charity to pay for the poor patients who cannot afford dialysis? I watched a documentary show before that Taiwan actually includes kidney dialysis in their medishield life equivalent program.

Come to think of it, which other countries have charity shows to ask for donations to cover kidney dialysis? If govt has taken up this function instead of being handled by charity, would there even be a NKF scandal?

Health care in Spore is big business & interestingly it is more expensive to get sick in Spore than in neighbouring countries like Malaysia & Thailand.

I heard that many Sporeans go to JB for their dialysis because it is cheaper there. They are I think paying the market rate & it is still cheaper than the cost in Spore. Same thing with people going to JB for drugs because it is cheaper than getting it in Spore.

 

[KopiO]

What so different from going to JB to eat, shop or even fuck? There is no denying that the cost of living and doing business in JB is cheaper. What is your point here?

Health care in Spore is big business & interestingly it is more expensive to get sick in Spore than in neighbouring countries like Malaysia & Thailand.

I heard that many Sporeans go to JB for their dialysis because it is cheaper there. They are I think paying the market rate & it is still cheaper than the cost in Spore. Same thing with people going to JB for drugs because it is cheaper than getting it in Spore.

 

[johnny333]

What so different from going to JB to eat, shop or even fuck? There is no denying that the cost of living and doing business in JB is cheaper. What is your point here?

I was talking to a Malaysian taxi driver & he told me that he received FREE treatment for his heart problems because of his low income. As Sporeans we don't expect anything free from the PAP gov't. In fact in Spore we have to pay more.

That is why Sporeans are going to Malaysia for cheaper health care & drugs.

We as Sporeans pay taxes in Spore & yet with the so called gov't subsidies we still are still paying more for treatment & drugs, than what a foreigner pays in Malaysia
My point is that the PAP is making a tidy profit & there is really no subsidy.

 

[winnipegjets]

Maybe I am naive. Now tell me how many political parties in the world do not look at "profit potential"?

The difference is that the PAP sells out sinkees. Most of the major policies of the PAP hurt sinkees.

Few political parties dare to sell out the country; only in sinkapore can the PAP do so with little protest from the people.

 

[laksaboy]

No need to talk so much. Keep calm and opt out of HOTA, I did.

 

[Confuseous]

Yes you are right. Now with "lapses" everywhere like the CCC chairman approving payment to himself, who knows whether the hospitals will have "lapses" to approve organ to themselves or their loved ones or whoever other than the rightful people in the queue?

And then they will conduct an investigation and set up training sessions on procurement by their staff.

 

[ginfreely]

Health care in Spore is big business & interestingly it is more expensive to get sick in Spore than in neighbouring countries like Malaysia & Thailand.

I heard that many Sporeans go to JB for their dialysis because it is cheaper there. They are I think paying the market rate & it is still cheaper than the cost in Spore. Same thing with people going to JB for drugs because it is cheaper than getting it in Spore.

Yeah recently I just checked the price of a type of medicine for a friend and it is one third the price in Spore.

 

[ginfreely]

And then they will conduct an investigation and set up training sessions on procurement by their staff.

Yes no one will need to answer for it. Just like SMRT allowed to continue to rot until NSEW all directions broken down.

 

[ginfreely]

Yes, it's all about the mathematics. Let's put things into perspective then. LA population is 14-16 million.what about NY, SF etc? Or the entire US? And as for SG, how many transplant agency do you think exists? One. So good luck if you are trying to game the system. Even CK Tang's son had to find his own donor. And still got caught and punished. Those with the means and knows better knows that places like India and China offers the easiest solution to buy your own organs. Don't even need to be super rich; even HDB owners have "bought" kidneys in China.

You have posted on time sensitivity. This is another factor against gaming the HOTA.

The article you refer to is an excellent article. Unlike the insinuated shit posted above. My point being transplants in SG is definitely less easy to tamper with. And I do know of recipients as well as people involved in the transplant process.

Transplants don't happen because of a few. There are not that many happening in SG. When transplants occurs, many personnel are involved. There are enough oppo doctors who should know if these insinuated shit happens in the hospitals. In fact, doctors may be one of the PAP greatest headache, e.g. P Tambyah, Ang Yong Guan and several others in the SDP. Even in the days of B Sosialis, there were a disproportionate number of doctors in it.

Maybe the HOTA should exclude idiots like some here. Just in case not only organs are transplanted......

What you write here is the past and present - less easy to tamper with transplant in Spore. In the past, the MRT trains got breakdown like that? So what was in the past may change easily within a decade or less when the people in-charged change, just like SMRT case.

Now in Spore there is team of local doctors and many personnel involved making it difficult to tamper with transplant. What happens when the team is changed to majority third world doctors? And it is not far-fetched with so many India doctor already working in the govt hospital and polyclinics.

They may be still junior now and oversee by local doctors, but give them a few years they will progress to senior and with their hiring their own kind culture will bring in more India doctors. Soon the team will be majority India doctors, like what you see in banks, management committee etc now.

And it is a study that confirmed the India doctors have cheating culture in their medical training. So people with cheating culture and majority in the team, what will happen? Will it still be less easy to tamper with transplant in Spore then?

 

[SgGoneWrong]

What you write here is the past and present - less easy to tamper with transplant in Spore. In the past, the MRT trains got breakdown like that? So what was in the past may change easily within a decade or less when the people in-charged change, just like SMRT case.

Now in Spore there is team of local doctors and many personnel involved making it difficult to tamper with transplant. What happens when the team is changed to majority third world doctors? And it is not far-fetched with so many India doctor already working in the govt hospital and polyclinics.

They may be still junior now and oversee by local doctors, but give them a few years they will progress to senior and with their hiring their own kind culture will bring in more India doctors. Soon the team will be majority India doctors, like what you see in banks, management committee etc now.

And it is a study that confirmed the India doctors have cheating culture in their medical training. So people with cheating culture and majority in the team, what will happen? Will it still be less easy to tamper with transplant in Spore then?

Do doctors involved in transplants have to sign clauses not to reveal anything or will get hell of a punishment?

 

[sirus]

How do you abort at 9 months?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/photo-of-baby-aborted-in-china-at-9-months-in-forced-abortion-circulates-on

 

[ginfreely]

Do doctors involved in transplants have to sign clauses not to reveal anything or will get hell of a punishment?

No idea. Any doctor here can advise?

But if it is India doctors, the study of them handling medical training in India showed they can even fake the patients when being checked. So any rules also no use unless proper enforcement.

 

[looneytan]

In US aborted babies up to 9 months old ... !!!

Allow me to point out the obvious - people do NOT abort at 9 months. Babies are born at 9 months.

Duhhh .....the shit that gets posted here .......

must have learnt that from Jesus

 

[KopiO]

Yeah recently I just checked the price of a type of medicine for a friend and it is one third the price in Spore.

The last I checked, rental was one tenth the price in SG.

 

[ginfreely]

The last I checked, rental was one tenth the price in SG.

I don't know whether the rental is one tenth the price in SG or not. The last I know some new shops in JB are selling for more than Rm 2 million. But rental is one important reason indeed.

There are other reasons I think like their govt good welfare for people. By giving people good quality medicine in their govt clinics/hospitals at a few Rm must have helped to keep the base low. Outside pharmacies know they can't charge too high price if not people all go to govt clinics for free or cheap medicine of the same quality.

Not forgetting no GST for medicine in Malaysia also cut price by 7% at least. Their govt care enough of the welfare of their people to exclude GST from their medicine.

And lastly another reason could be due to the medicine is sold by pharmacies and thus cheaper than bought from doctors via clinics and hospitals in Spore? I read about their govt proposal to separate function of clinics and pharmacies and this point was mentioned that “Getting medications from a clinic or hospital will be more expensive" (than from pharmacies) - See more at: http://www.theantdaily.com/Main/All...patients-make-the-choice#sthash.r0ScqwR8.dpuf

Come to think of it, why Spore has no such proposal to separate the functions of pharmacies and clinics to lower the cost of medication? It is also safer in view that so many third world doctors in Spore now who may not know what medications they are dispensing.

 

[johnny333]

The last I checked, rental was one tenth the price in SG.

Yes, Spore has very high rentals & no need to guess who is charging these high rentals.

It's a famiLee business