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PAP Spin - EIU is wrong. Sinkapore is cheap.

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Cost-of-living report did not take into account locals’ expenditures, says Singapore minister

March 05, 2014

Reports on the cost of living in Singapore do not reflect the cost of living for local residents but instead compare costs for expatriates living in the city, said its Finance Minister, Tharman Shanmugaratnam.

The two were "important differences" in the measurement of cost-of-living reports and what affects costs for Singaporeans, he said during his wrap-up speech on the Budget debate in Parliament today.

The minister was commenting on a survey – the 2014 Worldwide Cost of Living – by the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU), which revealed Singapore as the world's most expensive city, toppling Tokyo from the top spot.

One difference was the currency, Tharman said.

"An important reason why we've become expensive for expatriates is that the Singapore dollar has strengthened," he was quoted as saying by The Straits Times.

The strengthening Singaporean dollar would make things more expensive for an expatriate who is paid in a foreign currency but improves the purchasing power of Singaporeans when it comes to buying imported goods locally or abroad.

He added that goods and services offered to expatriates were "quite different from the goods and services consumed by ordinary Singaporeans".

The survey, which examines prices across 160 products and services in 140 cities, was aimed at helping companies calculate allowances for executives being sent overseas.

The report said Singapore's curbs on car ownership, which included a quota system and high taxes, made it "significantly more expensive than any other location when it comes to running a car".

A new Toyota Corolla Altis costs RM361,000 in Singapore, compared with around RM114,000 in Malaysia.

Overall, transport costs in Singapore were almost three times higher than those in New York, it said.

While he acknowledged that cars in Singapore were indeed more expensive that in other cities, Tharman claimed that the public transport and taxi fares in Singapore were cheaper than in other cities.

"It's not that these surveys are wrong, it's not that they are misguided. They're measuring something quite different from the cost of living for an ordinary local," he said.

He drew attention to the 2012 Asia Competitiveness Institute report which he said tried to measure the cost of living for ordinary residents.

The report showed that for expatriates, Singapore was the fifth most expensive city out of 109. But for residents, it ranked only 61st, cheaper than cities such as Hong Kong which ranked 58th, and Seoul which ranked 60th.

"What is important for us is that Singaporeans, and particularly low- and middle-income Singaporeans, have incomes that grow faster than the cost of living," Tharman told The Straits Times, adding that Singapore had been able to achieve that.

In the past five years, median household income registered a faster increase than the cost of living, growing 10% after inflation.

"And we keep our eyes focused on that: on how the average Singaporean and the low-income Singaporean is doing in their income relative to the cost of living," Tharman said.
 
Another load of bull. The only thing I agree with in his speech is that there is an impact from the strengthening SGD. However, I wonder what he was referring to when he said that the prices are different for expats. Is he implying that we should not eat in restaurants and confirm ourselves to eating in hawker centres, shopping only in ShengSiong and live in a HDB forever?

His rebuttal on transport costs is also rubbish. The impact of transport on us is greater than a foreigner because car ownership is predominantly Singaporean rather than a foreigner, where most rely on taxis because their contractual term is limited and they do not want to be caught out.
 
This is going to look bad for PAP.
Scramble the best spin team we have.
PAP send out the snake.
 
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Tharman claimed that the public transport and taxi fares in Singapore were cheaper than in other cities.


What if it breaks down all the time?
 
Tharman's response is a great example of: if you don't have anything substantial to say, it's better to keep your mouth shut.

At least don't be in such a hurry to respond. Wait a while, gather your spin doctors to do some research and rehearsing before making a statement. :rolleyes:
 
When they compare taxi and MRT, we may be cheaper by a couple of dollars. When u compare cars we r more expensive by a $100k or more!!! What's more to say!!!
 
if you eat in fancy restaurant like the expats, using extra virgin olive oil, it is most expensive city in the world.

But if you eat in hawker, using gutter oil provide by our pet PRC, it is cheap.
 
Well, minus off car from the equation, is the answer the same?
 
This is going to look bad for PAP.
Scramble the best spin team we have.
PAP send out the snake.


And there is nothing those fucking PAP can do about it.
They will spin and spin and tell lies after fucking lies

BUT THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW SINGAPORE IS EXPENSIVE BECAUSE SINGAPOREANS ARE RAPED AND SCREWED AND TIEWED BY PAP OF 700++ BILLIONS INTO SMEAR OF SHIT ON SOLE OF SHOE LKY STINKAPORE SOVEREIGN FUNDS AND THE FUCKING GROTESQUE PAY OF PAP AND THEIR RUNNING DOGS AND CORRUPT STINKING KANGAROOS

SPIN AND SPIN AND LIE AND LIE
NONE STOP FROM THE PAP MAGGOTS COCKROACHES AND WALKING BAGS OF EXCREMENT
WHILE THEY CONTINUE TO FUCK AND SCREW AND TIEW ALL OF US
 
it truly is. everytime i visit sg, i only spend less than sgd19.69 on food and drinks, less than sgd6.96 on the mrt, and less than sgd9.69 to buy "fei loong" or "jimbo" boxer shorts per day. after 2 weeks in sg, i am actually richer than in the bay area as i would spent usd69.69 on food and drinks, usd16.69 on bart and gas, and usd19.69 on hanes boxer shorts per day. :eek: :D
 
A relative was back for holiday during lunar new yea. She had not been back for past few years. After reading the report, her comments were "ya, I felt things are very expensive and no way we are coming back again." Really wonders where we are heading.
 
if you eat in fancy restaurant like the expats, using extra virgin olive oil, it is most expensive city in the world.

But if you eat in hawker, using gutter oil provide by our pet PRC, it is cheap.

Vivian and Tharman eats at restaurants. Sinkees are expected to eat at hawker centres. That's why Vivian doesn't give a damn about the gutter oil concern.
 
Tharman don't need to tok in parliment to us, the news is published by the mouthpiece called CNA.
if its untrue, pls go sue EIU....take them to court lah....thats the firm belief of LKY right...? if untrue, pls sue.
 
It really is quite amusing to see Tharman go into damage limitation control mode and try to defend something which is indefensible.
We should be proud to be top of the rankings (again) and have the most expensive car ownership in the world. Where else in the world can I buy a Honda Civic 1.6 for the price of a Porsche 911 Carrera in the UK?
As for a strengthening Sing Dollar's impact on the domestic economy, may I ask him whose influence is responsible for currency appreciation (aside from the MAS?), is it the Finance Minister, perhaps??

The EIU and The Economist Magazine are generally objective and for the most part, impartial. Something the PAP and the MSM always have a hard time dealing with.
 
It really is quite amusing to see Tharman go into damage limitation control mode and try to defend something which is indefensible.
We should be proud to be top of the rankings (again) and have the most expensive car ownership in the world. Where else in the world can I buy a Honda Civic 1.6 for the price of a Porsche 911 Carrera in the UK?
As for a strengthening Sing Dollar's impact on the domestic economy, may I ask him whose influence is responsible for currency appreciation (aside from the MAS?), is it the Finance Minister, perhaps??

The EIU and The Economist Magazine are generally objective and for the most part, impartial. Something the PAP and the MSM always have a hard time dealing with.

Tharman is wrong on many accounts. If the S$ is strong, imports should be cheap and cost of living goes down....that is the whole idea of keeping S$ strong...if the prices still gies up with strong singapore $ inflation is really raging and much higher than shown by CPI.
 
No matter how to u cut, slice or spin it,Sinkapore is expensive. Compare a taxi ride in Seoul (not the black premium type) vs our cab, compare a Starbucks latte in Times Square NY vs Orchard Rd. Closer to home, compare Nike products in Bangkok vs back home. If u compare cars and houses, we r Way Way Way ahead. If u add all these up, it's no surprise we r No 1 in the world!!!
 
No matter how to u cut, slice or spin it,Sinkapore is expensive. Compare a taxi ride in Seoul (not the black premium type) vs our cab, compare a Starbucks latte in Times Square NY vs Orchard Rd. Closer to home, compare Nike products in Bangkok vs back home. If u compare cars and houses, we r Way Way Way ahead. If u add all these up, it's no surprise we r No 1 in the world!!!

I used to be able to afford cabs every week. Now it is once a month.
 
Reports on the cost of living in Singapore do not reflect the cost of living for local residents but instead compare costs for expatriates living in the city, said its Finance Minister, Tharman Shanmugaratnam.

The two were "important differences" in the measurement of cost-of-living reports and what affects costs for Singaporeans, he said during his wrap-up speech on the Budget debate in Parliament today.

Let's grant him that cost of living for expats and locals is different, but one must not then think cost of living for locals is low as no survey (at least, as far as I know) has been done to rank cost of living for locals across cities. For all you know, Singapore may still be the most expensive city in terms of cost of living for locals if someone did such a survey.
 
For sure taxi in hk is cheaper n more efficient devoid of complicated surcharges that u nid phd to understand
 
I think it is totally irrelevant to mention if country is cheap or expensive for people to live in. Cheap or expensive is relative to each individual's affordability and also point of reference for comparison. A rich man splurging $4,000 for a Giorgio Armani suit here even if he could have gotten it for $2,700 in Italy may still find it cheap if he compares to buying it in China.

Sometimes these PAP people should just shut the fuck up, the more they try to spin the more people are tulan. How the fuck can cost of living between expats and locals be separated? They are linked in many ways.
 
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