Rich Director: Please be fair, raise our taxes!

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[h=1]Please be fair, raise our taxes[/h][h=2]How is the Government to find money for increased social spending? It is time the rich stepped up
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Published on Feb 16, 2014
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By Willie Cheng For The Straits Times

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ONE wintry night some five years ago, I found myself having dinner in Oslo with Mr Robert Steen, a senior executive of Schibsted, Norway's largest media group. The two of us talked about many things that night, but at one stage, the conversation drifted to personal income tax.

''What is Norway's top income tax rate?'' I asked him, reckoning that he would easily be in that tax bracket.

''44.8 per cent.''

''Isn't that rather high?''

''Well, it was 60 per cent before.''

I pressed on with my Singaporean logic: ''Even then, doesn't that level of taxes destroy the incentive for people like you to work?''

''No,'' he replied quite emphatically. ''Otherwise, who is going to pay for all this?'' he asked, referring to Norway's extensive infrastructure and social services.

That evening was an epiphany for me. For the first time, I had met a person who wholeheartedly embraced the high taxes he was paying.
In Singapore, I had been brought up to believe that every person needs to provide for himself, to work hard and to earn his keep. High taxes destroy the work ethic, and a generous welfare system can cripple the country.

Singaporeans pride ourselves on having a tax system which is among the lowest and most competitive in the world. Our top marginal personal income tax rate is 20 per cent, and about two thirds of Singaporeans do not need to pay income tax at all.

Our corporate tax rate is a low 17 per cent. Some corporate income tax exemptions put us right at the margin of being classified as a tax haven.

However, the reduction in income tax rates and burden over the years has been balanced with new and higher consumption taxes such as the goods and services tax, motor vehicle taxes and stamp duty. And this was done even though many economists consider consumption tax to be regressive, meaning it hits low income earners harder.

Indeed, Singapore has an economy and tax system that tends to favour the well-off. Apart from low personal income taxes, there is no capital gains tax or estate duty (the latter was abolished in 2008). Even the state's generous 21/2 times tax deductions for charitable donations ultimately favour those earning more, with those in the top tax bracket effectively getting a rebate of 50 per cent on their donations.

I have since learnt that Mr Steen is not an exception. There are many wealthy people who believe they should pay high levels of taxes. One of the most prominent advocates is multibillionaire investor Warren Buffett.

In 2001, he and 120 other wealthy Americans lobbied Congress not to repeal taxes on estates and gifts as proposed by the Bush government. They feared the billions of dollars lost in government revenue would inevitably result in either tax increases for those less able to pay, or cutting social security and other government programmes ''so important to our nation's continued well-being''.

Mr Buffett further argued that repealing estate duty would be the equivalent of ''choosing the 2020 Olympic team by picking the eldest sons of the gold-medal winners in the 2000 Olympics''.

In a 2011 New York Times article (''Stop coddling the super- rich''), he griped that his personal income tax bill came to only 17.4 per cent of his taxable income, while the staff in his office paid 33 per cent to 41 per cent.

He asked the ''billionaire- friendly Congress'' to raise federal tax rates on taxable income (including dividends and capital gains) in excess of US$1 million (S$1.3 million).

Mr Buffett's position reflects a wider movement for a just economy through taxes.

Responsible Wealth, for example, is a network of 700 business leaders and wealthy individuals in the top 5 per cent of wealth or income in the US who actively advocate fairer taxes and corporate accountability.
They campaign to limit excessive compensation for chief executives, remove tax loopholes and close the wage gap. Ironically, these are some of the very policies that made their members rich in the first place.

In Britain, a global campaign for a ''Robin Hood tax'' was launched in 2010 by a coalition of 50 charities. The idea is to tax financial transactions such as the sale and purchase of stocks, bonds, commodities and financial derivatives. Part of the motivation is to make financial institutions and players pay for their role in the global financial crisis, and to channel the billions of dollars raised into fighting poverty and improving society.

The Robin Hood campaign has legs. A proposal from the European Commission for a European Union- wide set of financial transaction taxes was approved by the Council of the European Union last year, and is expected to be implemented later this year.

That icy evening as I was educated on the successful Norwegian economy, I responded by giving examples of countries with generous welfare systems that were not doing well.

Mr Steen concluded that it was about trust. ''If taxpayers do not trust the government to deliver the goods and spend their money wisely, then the system of high taxes breaks down. In Norway, we trust our government.''

That should not be a problem for Singapore either. According to public relations firm Edelman, trust is a measurable asset which it tracks globally with its Edelman Trust Barometer. Its survey last year showed that Singaporeans' trust in the Government ranked third-highest in the world.

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has said that as the Government steps up social spending, taxes here must rise. Just recently, he reminded Singaporeans that ''all good things must be paid for''.

There is speculation as to whether the money to fund the bundle of health-care, housing and infrastructure initiatives that the Prime Minister announced in the last National Day Rally will come from higher income taxes or consumption taxes when Budget 2014 is unveiled.

Given our low income tax structure, the big gap between rich and poor and our greater responsibility to the less well-off in our society, perhaps it is time the many well-off people in Singapore should be saying to the Government: ''Go ahead and tax our income more. It is only fair.''
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The writer is a former managing partner of Accenture and chairman of the Singapore Institute of Directors. He currently sits on the boards of several commercial and non-profit organisations.
 
If you want to see how high taxes destroy the work ethic and produce generation after generation of useless welfare beneficiaries, you need to look no further than Australia and NZ.
 
The thing about Norway is they have tons of oil with only 5 million people. If I am not wrong, they control 60% of all North Sea oil reserves.
 
If you want to see how high taxes destroy the work ethic and produce generation after generation of useless welfare beneficiaries, you need to look no further than Australia and NZ.

We were not born to work. We live to enjoy life. Work is just a means to achieve the good life. And a good life is subjective.

There should be a minimal basic income provided by government, supported by taxes. Then those who aspires more can work. That's how life should be.
 
There should be a minimal basic income provided by government, supported by taxes. Then those who aspires more can work. That's how life should be.

Governments cannot provide anything as they are not economic units. When a benefit is "supported by taxes", what it actually means is that my hard work is supporting your desire to enjoy life without working. Give me one good reason why you can't earn your own good living and why I should fund your lotus eater lifestyle?

We were not born to work. We live to enjoy life. Work is just a means to achieve the good life. And a good life is subjective.

You probably got this utopian idea regarding what life is all about from some left wing liberal sect but it certainly does not describe reality.

Life is not about enjoyment. It's about survival of the fittest. That's how mankind got to where it is today... by meeting challenges head on and defeating the odds through hard work and determination.

Civilizations that sit back and enjoy life become extinct very quickly.
 
We were not born to work. We live to enjoy life. Work is just a means to achieve the good life. And a good life is subjective.

There should be a minimal basic income provided by government, supported by taxes. Then those who aspires more can work. That's how life should be.

If nobody work and everybody enjoy life. Where we got the tax??? Government is form by human being too... where got government if we are born to enjoy life???:D
 
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Governments cannot provide anything as they are not economic units. When a benefit is "supported by taxes", what it actually means is that my hard work is supporting your desire to enjoy life without working. Give me one good reason why you can't earn your own good living and why I should fund your lotus eater lifestyle?

No Government can make money. Money can only be made by the people in that country.

HOW THE FUCK CAN STINKAPORE HAVE 700++ BILLIONS IN THE LKY STINKAPORE FOREIGN RESERVES?

THATS MONEY STOLEN FROM THE PEOPLE OF SINGAPORE
STOLEN SO SMEAR OF SHIT ON SOLE OF SHOE LKY CAN PRETEND TO BE A BUSINESS GENIUS IN BUYING HIGH HIGH AND SELLING LOW LOW

ALSO WITH THAT MONEY IN HIS CONTROL, SINGAPOREANS WILL HAVE THAT MUCH LESS IN THEIR CONTROL TO FUND PARTIES TO BRING DOWN LKY
 
This is really similar to a sinkie women mentality. Just replace "government" with "husband" and "taxes" with "Women Charter".


We were not born to work. We live to enjoy life. Work is just a means to achieve the good life. And a good life is subjective.

There should be a minimal basic income provided by government, supported by taxes. Then those who aspires more can work. That's how life should be.
 
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never hear this kind of comment from rich PAP minister and Tony Tan who is father to Patrick Tan who did NS in USA.
 
If nobody work and everybody enjoy life. Where we got the tax??? Government is form by human being too... where got government if we are born to enjoy life???:D

alot of the posts here are raelly nonsense and illogical written by people who never lived overseas. actually singapore already has one of the highest effective taxes in the world. If you factor in the car, COE, property taxes , GST, ERP , petrol taxes, water and electricity taxes, I'm sure it s equal or more than alot of otehr countries in Europe or australia!!!!! probably more than 50% effective tax and just 20% personal income tax. Coe alone means that if you buy a car you pay an additional annual tax of approx 8K a year. for a toyota which costs 5 times more than australia, you probbaly pay add taxes of 10K or more a year effectively (based on COE, car sales, ARF, etc). add in ERP and petrol taxes. at least in australia you get free health care , welfare for old and jobless etc , can own a car for life!!!! compared to here where you effectively rent a car from garmen for 10 years not own it. here in sinkieland you get zero. I do not mind paying taxes like Norway if I get free healthcare for life or pension or welfare when jobless. I really wonder where all the revenue went.
 
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If nobody work and everybody enjoy life. Where we got the tax??? Government is form by human being too... where got government if we are born to enjoy life???:D

In line with progressive wages there ought to be geometric progress taxes
 
... In Singapore, I had been brought up to believe that every person needs to provide for himself, to work hard and to earn his keep ...

Given our low income tax structure, the big gap between rich and poor and our greater responsibility to the less well-off in our society, perhaps it is time the many well-off people in Singapore should be saying to the Government: ''Go ahead and tax our income more. It is only fair.'' ...
no way tis wil happen in sinkielan ... as mentioned in article, sinkies r brot up 2 provide 4 himself oni ... nid oni 2 c how ah loon stuff himself n his jingang wif multi-million $ salaries ...
 
If you want to see how high taxes destroy the work ethic and produce generation after generation of useless welfare beneficiaries, you need to look no further than Australia and NZ.
li'l wonder u fled there ... :rolleyes:
 
If you want to see how high taxes destroy the work ethic and produce generation after generation of useless welfare beneficiaries, you need to look no further than Australia and NZ.

High taxes does not destroy work ethic. We are already on par with all the 1st World nation with regards to taxes.

CPF 36%
GST 7%


These 2 are killers !
 
If you want to see how high taxes destroy the work ethic and produce generation after generation of useless welfare beneficiaries, you need to look no further than Australia and NZ.

Boss I not trying to be funny but seriously how come generation after generation these two countries still not go bankrupt?
 
Boss I not trying to be funny but seriously how come generation after generation these two countries still not go bankrupt?

So what if they go bankrupted. One call from IMF and our gabernment will not hesitate to loan our money out. Ang Mohs can carry on their lifestyle while Sinkies have to continue to slog. If not, who want to shake Pinky's hands when he visits other countries.
I am not trying to be funny here too. :p
 
Boss I not trying to be funny but seriously how come generation after generation these two countries still not go bankrupt?

New Zealand has a current account deficit running into the billions. When it will go bankrupt I do not know but it cannot carry on this way forever.

It is for this reason that I still hold more than 50% of my portfolio in SGD investments.

http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/key_graphs/current_account/

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The Balance of Payments statements set out a country’s transactions with the rest of the world. The current account balance is the sum of the balances of trade in goods and services, current transfers, and investment income.

More simply, the current account measures what a country saves minus what it spends or invests. The graph shows that since 1990, New Zealand has been a net borrower. Thus, the current account deficit has reflected the amounts of other countries’ savings that New Zealand has had to borrow, in order to finance spending.

The last time that New Zealand was a net saver — that is, had a current account surplus — was 1973.
 
you think sinkie cronies got good work ethic?:rolleyes:

If you want to see how high taxes destroy the work ethic and produce generation after generation of useless welfare beneficiaries, you need to look no further than Australia and NZ.
 
New Zealand has a current account deficit running into the billions. When it will go bankrupt I do not know but it cannot carry on this way forever.

It is for this reason that I still hold more than 50% of my portfolio in SGD investments.

http://www.rbnz.govt.nz/statistics/key_graphs/current_account/

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Thanks boss. Angmohs must be very smart and must be doing something right that we are not aware of. Generation after generation they still not dead. Clap clap clap to them.
 
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