LKY revelation coming to a real test...

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WIth many of our malay singaporean of javanese descent

"If, for instance, you put in a Malay officer who's very religious and who has family ties in Malaysia (indonesia applicable) in charge of a machine gun unit, that's a very tricky business. We've got to know his background... I'm saying these things because they are real, and if I don't think that, and I think even if today the Prime Minister doesn't think carefully about this, I and my family could have a tragedy."
 
What test? There are zero Malay-Muslims in sensitive units within the SAF. ;)

Regardless of race, language or religion... yeah. :rolleyes:
 
http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/singapores-first-malay-general-a-star-of-things-to-come/
2009 link

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From 1st July, Colonel Ishak bin Ismail caps his 28 years with the Singapore Armed Forces by being the first Malay to attain the rank of brigadier-general. The first Malay one-star general is clearly one for the history books, but the question remains whether it will be the only star shining for the foreseeable future.

The Straits Times lauded the promotion of the current Commander of 6th Division as “a milestone in Malays’ efforts to be fully accepted in the military”; it was only in 1987 that another brigadier-general doubted the loyalty of Malay soldiers by virtue of their religion: “If there is a conflict, we don’t want to put any of our soldiers in a difficult position where his emotions for the nation may be in conflict with his emotions for his religion … We don’t want to put anybody in that position where he feels he is not fighting a just cause, and perhaps worse, maybe his side is not the right side.” (Then-BG (Res) Lee Hsien Loong, who was also then Second Minister for defence.)

BG Ishak: Trailblazer or token?


There are many unresolved issues in the prickly relationship between the government and the largest minority race, particularly about its role in the military. Member of Parliament Zaqy Mohamad acknowledged in TODAY that COL Ishak’s promotion “dispels some talk” of “Malays (not) serving in the upper echelons of the SAF”. However, is COL Ishak a trailblazer or, in Mr Zaqy’s own words, the “token”?

Citing sui generis examples like COL Ishak as testament of progress has its limitations. That it required 44 years post-independence to see a Malay general indicate progress long overdue; meanwhile, the single Malay general reflects another somber truth: while Malays are arguably more integrated into the rank-and-file of the SAF, their representation in the officer and staff ranks remains lamentable.

The harsh reality is that COL Ishak, foisted to be the standard bearer for Malay achievement in the military, is also the exception. Furthermore, it is an open secret that certain vocations are made inaccessible to Malays for security considerations. Gradual steps have been taken to open hitherto sensitive vocations to Malays, but most remain tight-shut.
 
Colonels are a dime a dozen. Go to Mindef. The number of LTCs and COLs there are as numerous as corporals and sergeants in an ordinary camp.

Whoop-dee-doo, a Malay becomes a colonel. :rolleyes:
 
http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/singapores-first-malay-general-a-star-of-things-to-come/
2009 link

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From 1st July, Colonel Ishak bin Ismail caps his 28 years with the Singapore Armed Forces by being the first Malay to attain the rank of brigadier-general. The first Malay one-star general is clearly one for the history books, but the question remains whether it will be the only star shining for the foreseeable future.

The Straits Times lauded the promotion of the current Commander of 6th Division as “a milestone in Malays’ efforts to be fully accepted in the military”; it was only in 1987 that another brigadier-general doubted the loyalty of Malay soldiers by virtue of their religion: “If there is a conflict, we don’t want to put any of our soldiers in a difficult position where his emotions for the nation may be in conflict with his emotions for his religion … We don’t want to put anybody in that position where he feels he is not fighting a just cause, and perhaps worse, maybe his side is not the right side.” (Then-BG (Res) Lee Hsien Loong, who was also then Second Minister for defence.)

BG Ishak: Trailblazer or token?


There are many unresolved issues in the prickly relationship between the government and the largest minority race, particularly about its role in the military. Member of Parliament Zaqy Mohamad acknowledged in TODAY that COL Ishak’s promotion “dispels some talk” of “Malays (not) serving in the upper echelons of the SAF”. However, is COL Ishak a trailblazer or, in Mr Zaqy’s own words, the “token”?

Citing sui generis examples like COL Ishak as testament of progress has its limitations. That it required 44 years post-independence to see a Malay general indicate progress long overdue; meanwhile, the single Malay general reflects another somber truth: while Malays are arguably more integrated into the rank-and-file of the SAF, their representation in the officer and staff ranks remains lamentable.

The harsh reality is that COL Ishak, foisted to be the standard bearer for Malay achievement in the military, is also the exception. Furthermore, it is an open secret that certain vocations are made inaccessible to Malays for security considerations. Gradual steps have been taken to open hitherto sensitive vocations to Malays, but most remain tight-shut.

This Malay has resigned from the SAF long time ago. And he was General for like a year or so. "Clap Clap Clap".
 
http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2009/06/singapores-first-malay-general-a-star-of-things-to-come/
2009 link

col2.jpg



From 1st July, Colonel Ishak bin Ismail caps his 28 years with the Singapore Armed Forces by being the first Malay to attain the rank of brigadier-general. The first Malay one-star general is clearly one for the history books, but the question remains whether it will be the only star shining for the foreseeable future.


He was my S3 when I was slaving
 
WIth many of our malay singaporean of javanese descent

"If, for instance, you put in a Malay officer who's very religious and who has family ties in Malaysia (indonesia applicable) in charge of a machine gun unit, that's a very tricky business. We've got to know his background... I'm saying these things because they are real, and if I don't think that, and I think even if today the Prime Minister doesn't think carefully about this, I and my family could have a tragedy."

first, the orbat of the smallest gpmg unit (section at that time) did not have an officer in charge. the highest ranking soldier was an nco, and it could be a sgt. the support company comprised the gpmg platoon and the recoiless rifle platoon (anti-tank) and in years past, the 81mm mortar sections, which was a battalion asset, not support company. the infantry company was typically augmented with the support platoon, comprising gpmg and rr sections.

second, he has never served ns and he doesn't know what shit he's talking about. there were malay officers in safti teaching field craft in the old safinco and ocs. subjects and exercises included enfilading fire support from machine gun positions on higher ground while infantry charged up the slopes. obviously, those malay officers had done their tours with machine gun sections and platoons as nco's earlier in their careers before being promoted to lieutenants, captains and majors. otherwise, they wouldn't have a clue what they're instructing future nco's and officers about. :rolleyes:
 
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