first piece of news for the week: First tremor feared in China shadow banking system

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http://english.caijing.com.cn/2014-01-17/113833115.html

Repayment of the 3-billion yuan ($496 million) product sold through the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, the world's largest lender by assets, will probably be simply delayed.
A Chinese trust company warned investors that it may not repay investors of a high-yield product when it matures on January 31, state media said, promoting speculations whether it would become the precedent-setting first default of a shadow banking loan.
Repayment of the 3-billion yuan ($496 million) product sold through the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, the world's largest lender by assets, will probably be simply delayed to avoid any possible contagion risks, reported by the China Securities Journal, quoting analysts.
The trust company said it is considering legal action to press related parties for repayment to protect investors’ interests, according to the report. It added that it has "communicated positively" with some investors, who said they would like to cooperate with the firm in defusing risks of a default.
ICBC, which marketed the product without providing any formal guarantee against default, said on Thursday it will not use its own money to repay investors of the product issued by China Credit Trust Co Ltd. The lender will have not bear the "major responsibility" to repay investors under agreements signed with the trust firm, say experts, although some expect the bank will eventually should the bulk of the shock, according to the Guangzhou Daily.
China has not suffered a large-scale public default as yet because local governments and state banks have stepped in with bail outs. A default, if occurs, will shatter assumptions of state guarantee of products even sold through a murky shadow banking system like this one. Investors, therefore, are watching closely how the case will be resolved.
ICBC's governor Jiang Jianqing, deputy governor Luo Xi and executives at the China Credit Trust had reportedly been in Shanxi, where the product was issued, trying to work out a solution with the local government.
China Credit Trust issued the product in 2010, raising a total of 3.03 billion yuan as of March of 2011. The money was then invested in equity in Shanxi Zhenfu Energy Group. Alarm bells rang, however, over the trust loan when a vice chairman of the coal company was arrested for accepting deposits without a banking license.
 
Re: first piece of news for the week: First tremor feared in China shadow banking sys

Nothing will happen in China. It has strong forex position, banks all owned by state, high savings rates, strong mfg base, curreny controls.

The concern are the other Brics like India, Brazil and even Russia with the oil prices.
 
Re: first piece of news for the week: First tremor feared in China shadow banking sys

this piece of news affect short term, long term should be ok. you holding RMB???haha...lol...:o:D

Nothing will happen in China. It has strong forex position, banks all owned by state, high savings rates, strong mfg base, curreny controls.

The concern are the other Brics like India, Brazil and even Russia with the oil prices.
 
Re: first piece of news for the week: First tremor feared in China shadow banking sys

Nothing will happen in China. It has strong forex position, banks all owned by state, high savings rates, strong mfg base, curreny controls.

The concern are the other Brics like India, Brazil and even Russia with the oil prices.


China's ''growth'' is fake..............they've been building many many entire ''ghost'' cities in the middle of nowhere without anyone living in them.......

their municipal debts are over USD3 Trillion.........more than their entire forex reserves......what about all those ''loose'' lending to businesses ?
 
Re: first piece of news for the week: First tremor feared in China shadow banking sys

I am sure lots of speculaton but definately not fake.

Just look around, everything is made there, your computer, your phone, they sell more cars there than US.

Then remember that you have 1.4B people wanting and able to afford to modern housing. Remember pre-1980 they had no proper housing - so they is not suitable old housing. Size of China is just huge, they consume and overnight palm oil, steel all shoot up through the roof. So these guys can easily fill a city of 5M or 30M.

Ofcourse due to speculation, a lot of price adjustments needed. In the end, developer take a hair cut, banks told to hold on to debt and do not forclose and with time and inflation price equalizes.

Think about it, if you house is overpriced by 80%, say developer takes 25% of that 80% in the form of hair cut, banks hold on to debt for at 7% inflation in 5 to 6 years inflation would have wiped out the remaining froth.
 
Re: first piece of news for the week: First tremor feared in China shadow banking sys

China's ''growth'' is fake..............they've been building many many entire ''ghost'' cities in the middle of nowhere without anyone living in them.......

their municipal debts are over USD3 Trillion.........more than their entire forex reserves......what about all those ''loose'' lending to businesses ?

and six lanes motorway in the middle of nowhere with no traffic.
 
Re: first piece of news for the week: First tremor feared in China shadow banking sys

and six lanes motorway in the middle of nowhere with no traffic.


what an american economist found out.........


factory output go up..........but electricity use stagnant.........

car sales go up............but oil imports stagnant.............

exports go up...........but shipping rates go down..........

huge numbers of cars bought by govt..............

warehouses full of electronics...........bought by govt..........
 
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Re: first piece of news for the week: First tremor feared in China shadow banking sys

Please lah. Where are your facts:

Here is recent article on Chinese oil consumption:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-...ts-increase-to-record-as-economy-expands.html

Here is recent article on China sourcing for uranium to feed their power plants. Hopefully this means less coal burning power plants that is blanketing cities in heavy smog

http://www.scmp.com/business/commod...r-firm-buy-stake-australian-companys-uraniumo feed their power plansnts

what an american economist found out.........


factory output go up..........but electricity use stagnant.........

car sales go up............but oil imports stagnant.............

exports go up...........but shipping rates go down..........

huge numbers of cars bought by govt..............

warehouses full of electronics...........bought by govt..........
 
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