Thaksin Shinawatra

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Not sure. But the prediction was that Rama 9 will be the last Chakri King.

In fact prior to that, it was predicted that Chakri Dynasty will end after 150 years of rule, that supposed to be the year 1932. Of course we know that Chakri did not end then, but 1932 was the year Thailand changed from Absolute to Constitutional Monarchy.

To tell you the truth i have never heard of this story outside of this forum. The first time i heard of the 9th being the last was from someone in the forum.

 

[eErotica69]

To tell you the truth i have never heard of this story outside of this forum. The first time i heard of the 9th being the last was from someone in the forum.

You can google, the full details are there.

Moving ahead, is getting very real that Rama 9 is most likely the last King. Look at his son, there is no way the Thais will accept him as King. Of course if he pass the throne to Crown Princess Prathep (Angel), the Thais will be overjoyed. But being an Asian father, he still insist to hand over the Throne to his son.

So dun be surprised that one day the Princess becomes the First Thai President.

All those crap about Thaksin wanting to be President are frabricated by those elites and Junta supporters.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

You can google, the full details are there.

Moving ahead, is getting very real that Rama 9 is most likely the last King. Look at his son, there is no way the Thais will accept him as King. Of course if he pass the throne to Crown Princess Prathep (Angel), the Thais will be overjoyed. But being an Asian father, he still insist to hand over the Throne to his son.

So dun be surprised that one day the Princess becomes the First Thai President.

All those crap about Thaksin wanting to be President are frabricated by those elites and Junta supporters.

I see but then again looks like this process will still take some time before it will occur. For one thing the king needs to die and like a certain old fart doesn't look it's happening soon. Things are starting to look interesting. One thing i hope the country doesn't split up.

 

[eErotica69]

I see but then again looks like this process will still take some time before it will occur. For one thing the king needs to die and like a certain old fart doesn't look it's happening soon. Things are starting to look interesting. One thing i hope the country doesn't split up.

I am also very interested to see what happened after these 2 old man passes on.

But then again, life is unpredictable, as I may mati before they both though low probability, but who know?? Last year, one of my Chio colleagues passes away at age 28. Her baby only 2 years old :(

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

I am also very interested to see what happened after these 2 old man passes on.

But then again, life is unpredictable, as I may mati before they both though low probability, but who know?? Last year, one of my Chio colleagues passes away at age 28. Her baby only 2 years old :(

was the colleague sick or an accident?

 

[eErotica69]

was the colleague sick or an accident?

Kanna Cancer :(

 

[fuksin shinnafux]

Letter to President Obama regarding Thailand's Political Crisis - A Response to Michael Turner

President Barack Obama
President of the United States of America
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washing, D.C. 20500

17 January 2014

Dear Mr. President,

I am writing in response to Congressman Michael R. Turner's letter to you yesterday, urging you to publically voice opposition to the anti-government movement and support the election on 2 February 2014. With all due respect, Congressman Turner's letter is misguided and shows a lack of understanding of the Thai political crisis.

As a U.S. trained lawyer, and citizen of the U.S. and Thailand, I am pro-democracy. Indeed, I have often volunteered for voters' assistance groups to inform Americans on voting registration, necessary documents for voting, and finding the right precinct to ensure that their votes do get counted.

The anti-government protestors are also pro-democracy. The movement is not to rid Thailand of democracy. It is to rid Thailand of the most tyrannical and dictatorial regime in history. Throughout history, many dictators have been democratically elected. Saddam Hussein received 100% of the votes. Hugo Chavez, whom you publically called authoritarian, was also elected by the majority.

The Thaksin authoritarian government, elected through vote-rigging, proved to be the most corrupt and the gravest human rights violator. In order to fully appreciate the current political crisis, one must examine the telecommunications Tycoon' legacy. To name a few examples of Thaksin's egregious conducts:

▪ In February 2003, Thaksin launched a "war on drugs" campaign resulting in 2,800 extrajudicial killing in the span of three months. In 2007, official investigations concluded that more than half of those executed had no connections with drugs. The UN Human Rights Committee raised serious concerns yet perpetrators were never prosecuted.
▪ In 2004, Thaksin's security forces shot, suffocated or crushed to death 85 southern protestors in what is known as the Tak Bai massacre. Human Rights Watch has condemned this atrocity and urged independent criminal investigation but again, to no avail.
▪ According to Amnesty International, 18 human rights defenders were either assassinated or disappeared.
▪ Due to Thaksin's censorship and intimidation of the press, human rights violations remained unreported and any dissent was silenced.
▪ In an attempt to circumvent conflict of interest laws, Thaksin illegally transferred billions of baht in assets to his maids and drivers, without their knowledge.
▪ Thaksin aided his wife to purchase government land at a reduced rate of 1/3 in violation of the law prohibiting political leaders from engaging in business dealings with the government. Thaksin was consequently sentenced to two years in prison but fled the country and never served his sentence.
▪ Thaksin approved a US $127 million low-interest government loan to Myanmar's military-run government to purchase satellite services from his telecommunications business.
▪ During his tenure as prime minister, Thaksin sold his stakes in telecoms giant Shin Corp to Temasek holding, evading taxes worth $16.3 million.
▪ Thaksin's countless measures to benefit his telecommunications business prompted the Supreme Court to unanimously find him guilty of 4 counts of policy corruption and order seizure of $1.4 billion of his frozen $2.3-billion fortune.

These are just examples of the myriad ways in which Thaksin abused and robbed this country. Although in self-imposed exile, Thaksin continues to run Thailand and implement the policy of corruption through his sister. In a guised attempt to foster reconciliation, the current Thaksin regime passed the Amnesty Bill, designed to pardon protestors from all sides for engaging in political expression. At 4:25 am on a Friday night, the Thaksin-controlled parliament passed the final version of the bill that would now pardon all politicians ever charged or convicted of corruption since the coup. The revised bill also provided for the return of assets seized. To state the obvious, this law was passed solely to pave way for Thaksin's return as a free man with all his wealth restored.

In a ploy to control both the parliament and the senate, Thaksin's current government attempted to amend the senate structure and bar appointed senators who are professionals from all sectors. Eliminating this system would result in Thaksin's party controlling the legislative branch without any checks and balances. The Amnesty Bill or any other laws to enable Thaksin's corruption can then easily pass. Although the Constitutional Court struck down the senate-restructuring measure, Thaksin's government openly declared that it would defy the court's decision.

It is this blatant systematic policy of corruption and abuse of power solely for the benefit of Thaksin that fueled Thai citizens to stand up and say, enough is enough. The protestors want democracy. But first, Thaksin's dictatorship must be eradicated.

Over a decade of being under Thaksin's regime, one thing is clear. Our current democratic system has failed us. It has allowed for an authoritarian regime to usurp power and strip the nation's wealth. When a system accepts voter fraud and places corrupt politicians above the law, citizens must question and rise up against this broken system. The citizens are calling for reform. A true democracy with transparency, accountability, and most importantly, balance of power.

We want democracy. And it is through this civil obedience that we will achieve it.

Sincerely,

Vanina Sucharitkul
cc: Congressman Michael R. Turner

 

[eErotica69]

Letter to President Obama regarding Thailand's Political Crisis - A Response to Michael Turner

President Barack Obama
President of the United States of America
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washing, D.C. 20500

17 January 2014

Dear Mr. President,

I am writing in response to Congressman Michael R. Turner's letter to you yesterday, urging you to publically voice opposition to the anti-government movement and support the election on 2 February 2014. With all due respect, Congressman Turner's letter is misguided and shows a lack of understanding of the Thai political crisis.

As a U.S. trained lawyer, and citizen of the U.S. and Thailand, I am pro-democracy. Indeed, I have often volunteered for voters' assistance groups to inform Americans on voting registration, necessary documents for voting, and finding the right precinct to ensure that their votes do get counted...

Read above, do I need to say more?

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Read above, do I need to say more?

Smelly yellow shirt distorting facts.
Appointed senate is democratic? Appointed by who?
If this person so trust the US then request for US and UN observers to monitor the coming polls.
Lousy swimmer dun blame swimming trunks too big.

 

[eErotica69]

Smelly yellow shirt distorting facts.
Appointed senate is democratic? Appointed by who?
If this person so trust the US then request for US and UN observers to monitor the coming polls.
Lousy swimmer dun blame swimming trunks too big.

The Elites appoint themselves. Do you think they will appoint the rural poor into their puppet council? Even if they do, probably a token number. In summary, they Yellow shIT are still into modern feudalism.

The Elites never dare to say openly, but inside them, they still believe that they are the “Amart” (อำมาตย์) meaning “elite, lord”; while those rural poor and red shirts are “Prai” (ไพร่) meaning “serf”.

Thaksin came and changed that equation and let the rural poor knows that their one-vote is as good as the one-vote of any Amarts. This anger the Amarts and therefore they try to get rid of Thaksin.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

To tell you the truth i have never heard of this story outside of this forum. The first time i heard of the 9th being the last was from someone in the forum.

I did some research on origin of the curse.
Apparently the curse was made by King Taksin...supposedly directed at his then General Chakri.....that whoever desposed him (Taksin) from throne would be finished in 9 generations.
There are those who believe that PM Thaksin is reincarnation of King Tak back to regain his throne.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

The Elites appoint themselves. Do you think they will appoint the rural poor into their puppet council? Even if they do, probably a token number. In summary, they Yellow shIT are still into modern feudalism.

The Elites never dare to say openly, but inside them, they still believe that they are the “Amart” (อำมาตย์) meaning “elite, lord”; while those rural poor and red shirts are “Prai” (ไพร่) meaning “serf”.

Thaksin came and changed that equation and let the rural poor knows that their one-vote is as good as the one-vote of any Amarts. This anger the Amarts and therefore they try to get rid of Thaksin.

E69 I'm impressed by your understanding of the situation....you must be a Thai lover like me.

Yes you are 100% spot on.
Those who want to understand more in depth can read up on the thai sakdina system....this machiam the ah neh caste system.
Know all the facts before deciding if Khun Thaksin is a devil or a godsend.

 

[tonychat]

I did some research on origin of the curse.
Apparently the curse was made by King Taksin...supposedly directed at his then General Chakri.....that whoever desposed him (Taksin) from throne would be finished in 9 generations.
There are those who believe that PM Thaksin is reincarnation of King Tak back to regain his throne.

we will see a president Thaksin soon.. fuck the king, so primitve..still king.. even in first world country, the king or queen will let the people run the country. they will not behave like lords.

 

[eErotica69]

E69 I'm impressed by your understanding of the situation....you must be a Thai lover like me.

Yes you are 100% spot on.
Those who want to understand more in depth can read up on the thai sakdina system....this machiam the ah neh caste system.
Know all the facts before deciding if Khun Thaksin is a devil or a godsend.

Gee, guess we are both Thai lovers and also "Red". 5555555

I am not really familiar Sakdina System. Let me do some reading up. Thanks and cheers.

 

[tonychat]

E69 I'm impressed by your understanding of the situation....you must be a Thai lover like me.

Yes you are 100% spot on.
Those who want to understand more in depth can read up on the thai sakdina system....this machiam the ah neh caste system.
Know all the facts before deciding if Khun Thaksin is a devil or a godsend.

He is not a thai lover, that is just basic logic.. everyone who pay attention to the situation will know it.

 

[eErotica69]

we will see a president Thaksin soon.. fuck the king, so primitve..still king.. even in first world country, the king or queen will let the people run the country. they will not behave like lords.

Nay, unlikely to be him, as much as he is good, but very much of a controversial figure.

In my opinion, the most acceptable person would be Princess Prathep to be the first Thai President. Anyway, her brother sucks!

 

[eErotica69]

He is not a thai lover, that is just basic logic.. everyone who pay attention to the situation will know it.

Tonychat, just for this thread, can we discuss about Thai politics nicely and not flame each other?

 

[tonychat]

Bro in terms of looks she does not have it. But she is very kind hearted and loved by all Thais like her old man. I can't say that about the Crown Prince though.

Be respectful towards the Princess. Dun say this type of things.

you are telling others how they should behave??? Very PAP... who are you to tell others how they should behave??? fuck you understand!!!

 

[tonychat]

Tonychat, just for this thread, can we discuss about Thai politics nicely and not flame each other?

pls put me on your ignore list..i dun give a fuck about you.

 

[eErotica69]

you are telling others how they should behave??? Very PAP... who are you to tell others how they should behave??? fuck you understand!!!

Tonychat you started this thread and you want to screw up your own thread?

Let's have a good discussion on Thaksin and Thai politics here?