using tcm to supplement bazi deficiency

[ykhuser]

anyone heard of using tcm to supplement 4pillar bazi deficiency?
we know as long as a person QI is moving smoothly and unblock, we will be great health and smooth sailing.
what happen if one is born with missing element or extreme weak element.
can tcm be used slowly as a solution to supplement the missing qi or weak qi?

 

[Leongsam]

anyone heard of using tcm to supplement 4pillar bazi deficiency?
we know as long as a person QI is moving smoothly and unblock, we will be great health and smooth sailing.
what happen if one is born with missing element or extreme weak element.
can tcm be used slowly as a solution to supplement the missing qi or weak qi?

TCM doesn't do a damned thing for any ailment. It's nothing more than a big con job.

 

[kopiuncle]

TCM is a very dubious form of therapy
it claims to cure everything
from cancer to subfertility
billions of dollars industry
many singaporeans are flocking to them
more harm done than good
pretty scary some of these charlatans
my neighbour got colon cancer
treated by TCM until the cancer spreads everywhere
now terminal, still treated by TCM
another neighbour got subfertility with low sperm count
went to tcm to treat
so far the sperm remain low
no children......tcm can be detrimental to the health of people
who are gullible and ignorant and fearful
tcm physicians guarantee cure for everything
from high blood to diabetes, from cancer to low fertility
any expert here to support tcm - thank you

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

absolutely right............


only Western medicine is effective...............


that's why before any of the Western pharmaceutical companies were founded...............once you fall sick or had a cut or injury, you're dead..........


that's why the world population today is only 7 Billion...............if other forms of medicine works, the figure would have been 700 Billion liao

 

[Sinkie]

absolutely right............


only Western medicine is effective...............


that's why before any of the Western pharmaceutical companies were founded...............once you fall sick or had a cut or injury, you're dead..........


that's why the world population today is only 7 Billion...............if other forms of medicine works, the figure would have been 700 Billion liao

So, your next post will be to introduce your MLM health products and asking us to PM you for details, right?

HA HA HA HA HA, LOSER.

 

[ykhuser]

TCM is a very dubious form of therapy
it claims to cure everything
from cancer to subfertility
billions of dollars industry
many singaporeans are flocking to them
more harm done than good
pretty scary some of these charlatans
my neighbour got colon cancer
treated by TCM until the cancer spreads everywhere
now terminal, still treated by TCM
another neighbour got subfertility with low sperm count
went to tcm to treat
so far the sperm remain low
no children......tcm can be detrimental to the health of people
who are gullible and ignorant and fearful
tcm physicians guarantee cure for everything
from high blood to diabetes, from cancer to low fertility
any expert here to support tcm - thank you

hmm.i sure every trade sure got their black horse.
there are some experts in tcm, there are some who dont..just in enginnering

i myself has been combating with excess sweating without exertion since childhood.
western med will suggust you to use anti anti perspirant for your life time.
went to see different tcm practitioners, still no cure.
1 day my colledge recommend me his powerful tcm practitioner,
my problem 50% sloved in 2nd day...70% cured in 1 week...100% in 2 week.(spend only $22 total )
concludion, is a matter of finding the right doctor at the right time,right luck.
lee hsein long find the right doc, so he is cured, while many other were not so lucky.
anyone got hard to cure problem can PM me his contact.
only $4 to see him

 

[kopiuncle]

hmm.i sure every trade sure got their black horse.
there are some experts in tcm, there are some who dont..just in enginnering

i myself has been combating with excess sweating without exertion since childhood.
western med will suggust you to use anti anti perspirant for your life time.
went to see different tcm practitioners, still no cure.
1 day my colledge recommend me his powerful tcm practitioner,
my problem 50% sloved in 2nd day...70% cured in 1 week...100% in 2 week.(spend only $22 total )
concludion, is a matter of finding the right doctor at the right time,right luck.
lee hsein long find the right doc, so he is cured, while many other were not so lucky.
anyone got hard to cure problem can PM me his contact.
only $4 to see him

what is the cause of your excess sweating ?
so now you are completely cured....no sweating now....
your body must be very hot always

 

[ykhuser]

what is the cause of your excess sweating ?
so now you are completely cured....no sweating now....
your body must be very hot always

cause.
surface skin pores unable to regulate properly.
meaning lack of lung QI.
sufficent lung qi is required to close the pores after body cool down.
no,i still sweat , only like a normal person.
after lung qi is regulate into me, i run silver for my ippt.(got prob passing ippt)
got once, 5 persons (plus myself) enter a non aircon room to check something.
after 10 min, sweat was dripping from my upper body.
the rest four was staring at me like i just came in from heavy downpour.
my lower body is icy cold, upper body sweating like tap water.
diagnosed with heart fire, kidney cold.
use only 2 needle to drain off excess fire.
for those of you who got problem sleeping at night or got disturb dreams, you likely to have excess heart fire.
laymen term, your soul also need a house to rest after silent hour( heart is the house )
if your house (heart) is buring hot, the soul will not rest,instead wander about.
if your soul wander about, you got disturb sleep,disturbing dreams.

 

[kopiuncle]

#8, i still dont understand about this hot and cold qi.....stupid me
thank u..

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-...xcessive-sweating-caused-by-a-medical-problem

Generalized Sweating: Secondary General Hyperhidrosis

This less common form of hyperhidrosis causes sweating all over the body -- not just on the hands or feet. Secondary general hyperhidrosis is also more serious medically. It's called secondary because it's being caused by something else, such as an underlying health condition.

One telltale sign of secondary hyperhidrosis is excessive generalized sweating at night.

What can trigger secondary general hyperhidrosis? There are many possibilities, including a number of different medical conditions and diseases. They include:
Menopause
Pregnancy
Thyroid problems
Diabetes
Alcoholism
Infectious diseases like tuberculosis
Parkinson's disease
Rheumatoid arthritis
Stroke
Heart failure
Cancers like leukemia and lymphoma

What about anxiety? People who are anxious -- or have actual anxiety disorders -- may sweat more than others. But experts say that anxious sweating isn't the same as hyperhidrosis. (In some people, however, the two conditions can occur at the same time.)

Medications can also cause general excessive sweating. Medications that can cause sweating include:
Some psychiatric drugs
Some blood pressure medications
Some medicines for dry mouth
Some antibiotics
Some supplements

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

People who start rubbishing TCM which has a history of thousands of years are just plain ignorant.

In terms of traditional medicine from different civilizations, TCM is the most systematic, organized and theoretically built medicine. Yes, there are some practitioners who are simply incompetent but the system of TCM itself is well recorded throughout history.

It is just like saying free style cannot make human swim fast when an incompetent swimming coach didn't teach you properly or worse, one of his students drown during swimming lesson.

Even Western medicine has its heritage from herbalists from ancient times. Of course, they have evolved into more complex system but there are tons of medicines based on extracts from various herbs. Ironically, Western Medicine is actually learning the more abstract medicine based on Qi, particularly acupuncture from Chinese TCM. Acupuncture system is the most advanced study of human nervous and reflex system among its contemporary. The Germans are particularly advanced in re-learning acupuncture from the Ancient Chinese TCM.

Western Medicine researchers have even based quite numerous studies on various Chinese herbs.

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/05/chinese-plant-compound-wipes-out-cancer-in-40-days-says-new-research.html

Goh Meng Seng

 

[ykhuser]

People who start rubbishing TCM which has a history of thousands of years are just plain ignorant.

In terms of traditional medicine from different civilizations, TCM is the most systematic, organized and theoretically built medicine. Yes, there are some practitioners who are simply incompetent but the system of TCM itself is well recorded throughout history.

It is just like saying free style cannot make human swim fast when an incompetent swimming coach didn't teach you properly or worse, one of his students drown during swimming lesson.

Even Western medicine has its heritage from herbalists from ancient times. Of course, they have evolved into more complex system but there are tons of medicines based on extracts from various herbs. Ironically, Western Medicine is actually learning the more abstract medicine based on Qi, particularly acupuncture from Chinese TCM. Acupuncture system is the most advanced study of human nervous and reflex system among its contemporary. The Germans are particularly advanced in re-learning acupuncture from the Ancient Chinese TCM.

Western Medicine researchers have even based quite numerous studies on various Chinese herbs.

http://www.whydontyoutrythis.com/2013/05/chinese-plant-compound-wipes-out-cancer-in-40-days-says-new-research.html

Goh Meng Seng

think we have to agree with gms.
there are some practitioners who are simply incompetent but the system of TCM itself is well recorded throughout history.
even in western med..there are also incompetent GP.there are also good one.
anyone who turn a blind eye to tcm is shutting off your own tap

 

[johnny333]

think we have to agree with gms.
there are some practitioners who are simply incompetent but the system of TCM itself is well recorded throughout history.
even in western med..there are also incompetent GP.there are also good one.
anyone who turn a blind eye to tcm is shutting off your own tap

The western big pharma companies have been studying & stealing from other medical systems such as TCM, Ayuveda,,.. & patenting "their" discoveries

 

[Leongsam]

In terms of traditional medicine from different civilizations, TCM is the most systematic, organized and theoretically built medicine. Yes, there are some practitioners who are simply incompetent but the system of TCM itself is well recorded throughout history.

I'm always open minded. If a herb is claimed to have the ability to cure cancer, then by all means put it through the gold standard double blind test and if the results are statistically significant, I'd be the first in line to use it should I come down with the disease.

Emperical evidence means nothing. Anyone can conjure up a story about being in stage 4 cancer and miraculously going into remission after swallowing some concoction from TCM.

Steve Jobs, a multibillionaire, started on the herbal remedy path when he first discovered his pancreatic cancer and look where it got him.

 

[Sinkie]

I'm always open minded. If a herb is claimed to have the ability to cure cancer, then by all means put it through the gold standard double blind test and if the results are statistically significant, I'd be the first in line to use it should I come down with the disease.

Emperical evidence means nothing. Anyone can conjure up a story about being in stage 4 cancer and miraculously going into remission after swallowing some concoction from TCM.

Steve Jobs, a multibillionaire, started on the herbal remedy path when he first discovered his pancreatic cancer and look where it got him.

I doubt Steve Jobs tried TCM.......................more likely he tried homeopathy, which is Western alternative medicine, started in 1796 by an idiot sham artist called Samuel Hahnemann.

 

[shelltox]

despite decades of natural calamity, china wouldn't be the most populated nation on earth if TCM is the biggest con-job. For heaven sake use some common sense.. Maybe the greatest con job are some of the biggest pharmaceutical companies.

 

[Leongsam]

despite decades of natural calamity, china wouldn't be the most populated nation on earth if TCM is the biggest con-job. For heaven sake use some common sense.. Maybe the greatest con job are some of the biggest pharmaceutical companies.

By your argument TIM (traditional mama pundek medicine) should come a close second.

I've seen the harm caused by TCM. It is no laughing matter. The stuff not only does nothing to cure you. It oftens speeds up the dying process.

 

[The_Hypocrite]

And u call speeding up a dying process a problem? It could be a merciful death. If got cancer etc its better to let nature take its course. Seend ppl go for chemotherapy. And all the wat nots. Than suffer during treatment n bankrupt the whole family and still die painfully. Death is part of life. Deal with it.

By your argument TIM (traditional mama pundek medicine) should come a close second.

I've seen the harm caused by TCM. It is no laughing matter. The stuff not only does nothing to cure you. It oftens speeds up the dying process.

 

[johnny333]

I'm always open minded. If a herb is claimed to have the ability to cure cancer, then by all means put it through the gold standard double blind test and if the results are statistically significant, I'd be the first in line to use it should I come down with the disease.

Emperical evidence means nothing. Anyone can conjure up a story about being in stage 4 cancer and miraculously going into remission after swallowing some concoction from TCM.

Steve Jobs, a multibillionaire, started on the herbal remedy path when he first discovered his pancreatic cancer and look where it got him.

Steve Jobs is a multibillionaire & could well afford the best western medicine. I read that he had a transplant. The fact that he died is an example of the limitation of western medicine.

If he had pursued the alternative route it would have required a change in lifestyle & diet. For example the Gearson/Budwig protocols call for a strict diet of vegtables & fruits, resting, avoiding stress, etc If successful it would have taken 3 years to recover. That's "IF" he was willing to slow down & take the necessary steps. He would probably have to retire from Apple for at least 3 years.

 

[Leongsam]

Steve Jobs is a multibillionaire & could well afford the best western medicine. I read that he had a transplant. The fact that he died is an example of the limitation of western medicine.

If he had pursued the alternative route it would have required a change in lifestyle & diet. For example the Gearson/Budwig protocols call for a strict diet of vegtables & fruits, resting, avoiding stress, etc If successful it would have taken 3 years to recover. That's "IF" he was willing to slow down & take the necessary steps. He would probably have to retire from Apple for at least 3 years.

I have numerous friends who have been cured of cancer and some who have died.

The key to surviving is catching the disease at stage 1 or 2.

By the time it is diagnosed at stage 4, there is nothing much that can be done. Some opted for aggressive treatment. Some opted for no treatment and accepted that their time was up. Some opted for alternative treatment TCM included. None of them survived.

However, 90% of those I personally know who caught their cancers at stage 1/2 have been saved by Western methods and are clear of the disease after 5 years.

Had Steve Jobs opted for Western Medicine immediately, the outcome might have been a lot different. Instead, he mucked around with herbal remedies and special diets until it was too late and the cancer had spread to his liver.

 

[shelltox]

you ignored the harm done by giant phamarceutical companys Birth Defects Skyrocket

The (incredible) reaction to the Thalidomide tragedy by the pharmaceutical lobby was that it was a 'rare exception' and that it 'emphasises a need for more rigorous animal testing, not less.' This explanation was accepted by most people. So animal testing increased, along with the output of 'safety-tested' drugs. The consequences of this? In the 1950s in the Federal Republic of Germany, 3 out of every 100,000 babies were born malformed. By the 1980s, 500 out of every 100,000 were born malformed.(21) Every year, 1 in 12 babies are born with birth defects in the USA This is more than a 100-fold increase.

In the United States birth defects increased more than 350% in 25 years. In the late 1950s, 70,000 American babies were born with birth defects every year. In the 1980s this toll reached 250,000 a year. (22)

The reason for this increase in human birth defects is known. A survey by doctors in West Germany revealed that 61% of malformations in new-born children and 88% of all stillbirths are attributable to the damage caused by drugs taken by the mother during pregnancy. (23)

Remember, all these drugs were marketed after being declared "safe" through extensive animal testing.