Model # used to depict engine capacity - why BMW 520i and 528i both 1997cc? Kelong?

[Fook Seng]

The auto-start-stop feature is really cool and I bet will save fuel, however I agree people who buy luxury cars no need to bother with fuel cost.

Don't think it saves fuel. If anything it adds slightly to the consumption unless they have improve this function recently. The auto-start-stop or auto park, useful for driving in a traffic jam, is basically a break function which relieves your leg from having to step on the break pedal all of the time.

 

[Papsmearer]

Re: Model # used to depict engine capacity - why BMW 520i and 528i both 1997cc? Kelon

I absolutely disagree. There is no joy of driving in Singapore given the over crowding situation, unless the joy is only derived from letting everyone else know that you can afford super expensive cars.

SO, what r u saying? No one should buy a car in Singapore? U heard of this country called Malaysia? Ever driven there? I love to run my car in Malaysia. Whenever possible, I am over to JB. I would rather drive than fly to KL.

 

[LeMans2011]

Re: Model # used to depict engine capacity - why BMW 520i and 528i both 1997cc? Kelon

I don't know what u are babbling about, the manufacturer (in this case BMW) has not reduced the number of cylinders. They still offer 4, 6 and 8 cylinder engines in their cars. If u want "efficiency", go and buy a Toyota Corolla. When u are buying a BMW, u are not buying it for "efficiency", u are buying it for performance and the sheer joy of driving. However, if you are stupid, than u put a small engine in heavy car like this, and you don't have performance nor joy of driving. U just have a brand name car that you brag to friends and family about.

That is not what i am saying. I am saying manufacturers are moving towards smaller engines (and lesser cylinders) to produce the same horsepower and torque. Just like the Audi S5 were previously on 4.2l NA engine but now they use 3.0l supercharged. The 528 were previously on 6 cylinders and now 4. Efficiency as in torque/horsepower per engine capacity. Not true that performance cars are all guzzlers. My 3 litre supercharged does 8km per litre and that is not possible in the days of pure NA big capacity engines. Toyota Corolla is in the economy league of course its a different story.

 

[watchman8]

Re: Model # used to depict engine capacity - why BMW 520i and 528i both 1997cc? Kelon

SO, what r u saying? No one should buy a car in Singapore? U heard of this country called Malaysia? Ever driven there? I love to run my car in Malaysia. Whenever possible, I am over to JB. I would rather drive than fly to KL.

No, i mean lux car owners in sg buy the car mainly to show off. Not saying anything about cars in general.

The super car joy has to be a complete experience, meaning from door step to door step. You need to first waste an hour to drive the super lux car through maddening traffic and 2 customs to a suitable stretch of Malaysian highway, and then waste another hour back home. This alone kills any joy.

The second killjoy is the constant fear in Malaysia with a singapore plate luxury car. Both real robbers and mut police are after your money.

Many rich folks will specially drive their cheap Asian cars into Malaysia and leave their luxury car at home.

 

[Froggy]

Re: Model # used to depict engine capacity - why BMW 520i and 528i both 1997cc? Kelon

I am lucky to live in Thailand and even luckier to be driving towards getting out of Bangkok every morning where the traffic congestion is on the other direction getting into Bangkok. So cruising at 160kmh is a daily affair but to go at even 200 let alone 250 I've not even come close.

 

[king_of_abalone]

Re: Model # used to depict engine capacity - why BMW 520i and 528i both 1997cc? Kelon

For decades now, going back to the E28, there have always been a 520i and a 528i. In the past the 528i was usually a 6 cylinder engine while the 520i was always a 4 cylinder engine, That was how buyers could differentiate the 2 models.

Any lifelong BMW driver could have pointed out your erroneous assertion that all 520i always used inline 4 engines.

From E28 to the pre-facelift (pre-LCI) E60, all gasoline-powered 520i cars were inline 6. The earlier iterations of 520i (with the exception of the E12, and even then they had a 520i model using an inline 6, the others being inline 4) were approximately 2.0L inline 6, and the pre-LCI E60 520i was approximately 2.2L inline 6.

The LCI E60 520i was the first time since the E12 520i that an inline 4 was used. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5_Series#E12_.281972.E2.80.931981.29

The bulk of 520i models used an inline 6, the exceptions being the E12 520i, the LCI E60 520i, and the F10 520i in which inline 4 engines were used.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5_Series#E28_.281982.E2.80.931988.29

518/518i- 1.8 L M10B18
520i - 2.0 L M20B20 I6
524d - 2.4 L M21 diesel I6
524td - 2.4 L M21 turbodiesel I6
525i - 2.5 L M30B25 I6
525e - 2.7 L M20B27 I6
528i - 2.8 L M30B28 I6 first 177 hp 1978 after 1979 184 hp
530i - 3.0 L M30B30 I6
535i/M535i - 3.4 L M30B34 I6
M5 - M88 I6, 286 PS (210 kW; 282 hp)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5_Series#E34_.281988.E2.80.931996.29

1990–1994 BMW 518i - 1.8 L M40B18 I4 113 PS (83 kW; 111 hp)
1995–1996 BMW 518i - 1.8 L M43B18 I4 115 PS (85 kW; 113 hp)
1995–1996 BMW 518g (CNG) Touring - 1.8 L M43B18 I4
1988–1990 BMW 520i - 2.0 L M20B20 I6 122 PS (90 kW; 120 hp)
1988–1990 BMW 520i ECE - 2.0 L M20B20 I6 129 PS (95 kW; 127 hp) higher compression than non ECE
1991–1996 BMW 520i - 2.0 L M50B20 I6 150 PS (110 kW; 148 hp)
1988–1991 BMW 524td - 2.4 L M21 I6 diesel
1993–1995 BMW 525td - 2.5 L M51D25 UL I6 115 PS (85 kW; 113 hp) diesel
1991–1995 BMW 525tds - 2.5 L M51D25 OL I6 143 PS (105 kW; 141 hp) diesel
1988–1990 BMW 525i - 2.5 L M20B25 I6 170 PS (125 kW; 168 hp)
1991–1996 BMW 525i - 2.5 L M50B25 I6 192 PS (141 kW; 189 hp)
1992–1995 BMW 525iX - 2.5 L M50B25 I6 192 PS (141 kW; 189 hp)
1988–1990 BMW 530i - 3.0 L M30B30 I6 188 PS (138 kW; 185 hp)
1993–1995 BMW 530i - 3.0 L M60B30 V8 218 PS (160 kW; 215 hp)
1988–1992 BMW 535i - 3.4 L M30B35 I6 211 PS (155 kW; 208 hp)
1993–1995 BMW 540i - 4.0 L M60B40 V8 286 PS (210 kW; 282 hp)
1989–1992 BMW M5 - 3.5 L S38B36 I6, 315 PS (232 kW; 311 hp)
1992–1995 BMW M5 - 3.8 L S38B38 I6, 340 PS (250 kW; 335 hp)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5_Series#E39_.281995.E2.80.932003.29


1996–2000 520i - 2.0 L M52B20 I6, 110 kW (150 PS; 148 hp)
2000–2003 520i - 2.2 L M54B22 I6, 125 kW (170 PS; 168 hp)
1996–2000 523i - 2.5 L M52B25 I6, 125 kW (170 PS; 168 hp)
2000–2003 525i - 2.5 L M54B25 I6, 141 kW (192 PS; 189 hp)
1996–1999 528i - 2.8 L M52B28 I6, 142 kW (193 PS; 190 hp)
1999–2000 528i - 2.8 L M52B28 TU I6, 142 kW (193 PS; 190 hp)
2000–2003 530i - 3.0 L M54B30 I6, 172 kW (234 PS; 231 hp)
1996–2003 535i - 3.5 L M62B35 V8, 183 kW (249 PS; 245 hp)
1996–1998 540i - 4.4 L M62B44 V8, 213 kW (290 PS; 286 hp)
1998–2003 540i - 4.4 L M62TUB44 V8, 216 kW (294 PS; 290 hp)
1998–2003 M5 - 5.0 L S62B50 V8, 295 kW (401 PS; 396 hp)
2000–2003 520d - 2.0 L M47D20 diesel I4 100 kW (136 PS; 134 hp)
2000–2003 525d - 2.5 L M57D25 diesel I6 122 kW (166 PS; 164 hp)
1997–2000 525td - 2.5 L M51D25TU UL diesel I6 85 kW (116 PS; 114 hp)
1996–2000 525tds - 2.5 L M51D25TU OL diesel I6 105 kW (143 PS; 141 hp)
1998–2000 530d - 3.0 L M57D30 diesel I6 135 kW (184 PS; 181 hp)
2000–2003 530d - 3.0 L M57D30 diesel I6 142 kW (193 PS; 190 hp)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5_Series#E60.2FE61_.282003.E2.80.932010.29

2005–2006 520d - 2.0 L (1995 cc) diesel I4, 110 kW (150 PS; 148 hp)
2006–2007 520d - 2.0 L (1995 cc) diesel I4, 120 kW (163 PS; 161 hp)
2007- 520d - 2.0 L (1995 cc) diesel I4, 130.5 kW (177 PS; 175 hp)
2003–2005 520i - 2.2 L (2171 cc) I6, 125 kW (170 PS; 168 hp)
2007- 520i - 2.0 L (1995 cc) I4, 125 kW (170 PS; 168 hp)
2004–2007 523i - 2.5 L (2497 cc) I6, 130 kW (177 PS; 174 hp)
2007- 523i - 2.5 L (2497 cc) I6, 140 kW (190 PS; 188 hp)
2004–2007 525i/xi - 2.5 L (2497 cc) I6, 160 kW (218 PS; 215 hp)
2007- 525i/xi - 2.5 L (2996 cc) I6, 160 kW (218 PS; 215 hp)
2004–2007 530i/xi - 3.0 L (2979 cc) I6, 190 kW (258 PS; 255 hp)
2007- 530i/xi - 3.0 L (2979 cc) I6, 200 kW (272 PS; 268 hp)
2004–2007 530d/xd - 3.0 L (2993 cc) diesel I6, 175 kW (238 PS; 235 hp) and 500 N·m (370 ft·lbf)
2004- 535d - 3.0 L (2993 cc) diesel I6, 200 kW (272 PS; 268 hp) and 413 ft·lbf (560 N·m) (compression ratio: 16.5:1)
2006- M5 - 5.0 L S85 V10, 373 kW (507 PS; 500 hp)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_5_Series#F10.2FF11_.282010-_present.29


2010-2012 523i Asia - 2.5 L N52B25 I6, 150 kW (204 PS; 201 hp)
2010-2012 523i Europe - 2.5 L N53B25 direct injection I6, ??kW
2010-2012 523i Europe - 3.0 L N53B25 direct injection I6, ??kW
2010-2012 528i Asia/USA - 3.0 L N52B30 I6, 179 kW (243 PS; 240 hp)
2010-2012 528i Europe - 3.0 L N53B30 direct injection I6, ??kW
2012- 520i - 2.0 L N20B20 direct injection I4, 135 kW (184 PS; 181 hp)
2012- 528i - 2.0 L N20B20 turbo I4, 179 kW (243 PS; 240 hp)
2012- 530i - 3.0 L N53B30 I6, 200 kW (272 PS; 268 hp)
2010 535i - 3.0 L N55B30 Twin power Turbo I6, 225 kW (306 PS; 302 hp)
2010 550i - 4.4 L N63B44 Twin-Turbo V8, 303.5 kW (413 PS; 407 hp)
2011 M5 - 4.4 L BMW N63#S63B44 Twin-Turbo V8, 412 kilowatts (560 PS; 553 hp)