Public institution or political organization - why Baey is talking cock

[Confuseous]

The AIM saga has led many to question the nature of Town Councils. Are TCs public institutions or are they political organizations? This also brings to question whether the People’s Association is a public institution or a political organization. According to Tan Cheng Bock, TCs are public institutions. Baey Yam Keng said otherwise, that they are political organizations and the AIM saga has been over politicized. Should not that be the case since they are political organizations?

What are the differences between a political organization and a public institution? There are many and very obvious differences without having to split hairs. Academics may have a long list of definitions or what is and what is not. I would simply lay out a few cogent points of what is a public institution and what is not.

A public institution is often formed to serve the interests of the public in general, not a particular group or political party. It draws its funds from the public or from the govt. It is has no links to any political party. These should be brief and easy to understand. Political organizations are simply organizations of political parties to serve party interests.

An organization that is paid by the public or by public funds from the govt should be a public institution. Political organizations that serve the interests of political parties must not be paid by public fund or the govt. There is a big grey area that need not be grey at all, that is the govt. The govt is made up of political parties, singular or a coalition. They are political parties first and the govt second. It could be the other way round. The govt is to serve the general public of all political colours. But this is easier said than done. Most govt will look at party interests first and public interests second for self preservation and selfish interests. Ideally, political parties should shed their politics when elected to form the govt and serve the public at large as one people of one country. I said ideally, and I am asking too much. Even immortals will be biased to favour party interests than public interests.

The govt aside, should TCs be public institutions or political organizations? Likewise, is the PA a public institution or political organization? Who is footing the bill? Who pays their salaries and activities? The govt using public fund or the political party using party fund?


Posted by Chua Chin Leng aka redbean at 8:47 AM

 

[batman1]

In sinkeeland,some things are very simple and strightforward but they have to deliberately make it into grey area and confuse the people.
Why can't they admit their wrongdoings,apologise and move on ?

 

[Prometheus888]

They can't apologise because it is beneath them to do so and they are NEVER wrong ....

besides if you ask me .... this matter smacks of a breach of trust by the Town Councils

 

[Leongsam]

People are getting confused over something that is very straightforward.

Let me spell it out. The whole of Singapore, the Island, the infrastructure, the water, the electricity, the cars, the houses, the people that live there, ALL belong to the PAP.

There may not be a piece of paper that the PAP holds to prove that it has ownership but the fact that laws are in place to allow the PAP to have access to or use of anything it wants within Singapore's borders means that for all intent and purpose, it has ownership.

I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

 

[batman1]

<There may not be a piece of paper that the PAP holds to prove that it has ownership but the fact that laws are in place to allow the PAP to have access or use of anything it wants within Singapore's borders means that fall intent and purpose, it has ownership>

......means that for all intent and purpose,it has ownership.

 

[Satyr]

Sam leong has said it. The only thing I will add is that the people have given it to them through apathy, ignorance or sheer cowardice.

 

[greedy and cunning]

People are getting confused over something that is very straightforward.

Let me spell it out. The whole of Singapore, the Island, the infrastructure, the water, the electricity, the cars, the houses, the people that live there, ALL belong to the PAP.

There may not be a piece of paper that the PAP holds to prove that it has ownership but the fact that laws are in place to allow the PAP to have access or use of anything it wants within Singapore's borders means that for all intent and purpose, it has ownership.

I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

you saying there is slavery going on somewhere on earth ?

 

[Leongsam]

you saying there is slavery going on somewhere on earth ?

Not the sort of slavery that was the hallmark of the American civil war era but modern 21st century slavery. The PAP decides how much you're paid, where you live, how long you live there and what you can and cannot do while within PAP borders. The PAP even decides how you'll be disposed of once you're dead!

This is how the man himself put it :

I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yes, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn't be here today. And I say without the slightest remorse, that we wouldn't be here, we would not have made economic progress, if we had not intervened on very personal matters - who your neighbour is, how you live, the noise you make, how you spit, or what language you use. We decide what is right. Never mind what the people think.

• Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, Straits Times, 20 April 1987

He fell short of saying that he owned you body and soul but it certainly was implied in no uncertain terms!

 

[streetsmart73]

Not the sort of slavery that was the hallmark of the American civil war era but modern 21st century slavery. The PAP decides how much you're paid, where you live, how long you live there and what you can and cannot do while within PAP borders. The PAP even decides how you'll be disposed of once you're dead!

This is how the man himself put it :


He fell short of saying that he owned you body and soul but it certainly was implied in no uncertain terms.

hi there


1.
2. that's why i shall try to tear up one single droplet of my crocodile tears when the time comes for the up-the-lorry thing.
3. for such efforts, 5-straight days for the nation to mourn too:p
4. super super super holidays acoming

 

[KuanTi01]

Very simple lah! If town councils are political organisations as Baey puts it, then they should not access public funds at all. But then again since when and where has a town council been described as a political organisation? Town Council Act??

 

[lianbeng]

lianbeng replies: nah Baey!

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Boss Sam sums it up nicely in his 2 posts here.
I would use them as my signature.
Pap owns singapore and everything in it. It's a fact.

 

[laksaboy]

In sinkeeland,some things are very simple and strightforward but they have to deliberately make it into grey area and confuse the people.
Why can't they admit their wrongdoings,apologise and move on ?

An apology is a sign of weakness. It taints your aura of invincibility and infallibility.
It also shows that you fucked up, and don't deserve your exorbitant salaries.

 

[jw5]

He fell short of saying that he owned you body and soul but it certainly was implied in no uncertain terms!

He owns your soul, but he wants your body.

 

[jw5]

It taints your aura of invincibility and infallibility.

It's not difficult for people who are invisible to be invincible.