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Observations Made at the Casino

It's tough work bro...really tough. I know how you feel and how exhausting it is.Went thru this stage before...damned siong!!!

That's why I said DISCIPLINE is the most important trait needed in this profession. The hardest is to leave when winning. You are only a winner when you LEAVE the casino with your winnings. As long as still inside, you are a loser.
 
That's why I said DISCIPLINE is the most important trait needed in this profession. The hardest is to leave when winning. You are only a winner when you LEAVE the casino with your winnings. As long as still inside, you are a loser.

This is very true.

With your many frequent visits to the casino you must have seen many a personality, celebrity.

When I was there some months back there was a commotion near the toilets. Plenty of casino staff were forming a barricade around the toilet entrance. Soon people were gossiping that perhaps someone may have committed suicide in one of the cubicles.
 
casino, dangerous place unless you know when to leave
dont become a ho to ur greed, leave wehn its time.

pls up my points :)

That's why I said DISCIPLINE is the most important trait needed in this profession. The hardest is to leave when winning. You are only a winner when you LEAVE the casino with your winnings. As long as still inside, you are a loser.
 
Interesting insight there Bro GoldenDragon. Most of the points which you mentioned is pretty much the same type of observation I get when i visit the local casinos. As mentioned, Discipline is most important, but I feel that individual's mindset when entering the casinos is pretty important too. For example, my mindset is to have fun with my friends when we visit the casinos, so whatever amount we bring in, we are pretty much prepared to lose it. Once, me and my friends are up $3k+ each from $800 capital within 2hrs. But by the time we left, we lost our capital. The thought about getting more cash to continue didn't come across our minds at all.

It's like "ok, we are done. Let's go" :)
 
Interesting insight there Bro GoldenDragon. Most of the points which you mentioned is pretty much the same type of observation I get when i visit the local casinos. As mentioned, Discipline is most important, but I feel that individual's mindset when entering the casinos is pretty important too. For example, my mindset is to have fun with my friends when we visit the casinos, so whatever amount we bring in, we are pretty much prepared to lose it. Once, me and my friends are up $3k+ each from $800 capital within 2hrs. But by the time we left, we lost our capital. The thought about getting more cash to continue didn't come across our minds at all.

It's like "ok, we are done. Let's go" :)

Good for you. You won't get addicted. Not many can let it go.
 
I cannot understand gamblers mentality here. With all the overheads and all the staff the casino have under its payroll, destroying decks of cards played only once, the Casino still make enough to pay taxes even. Surely the only losers are the punters. If you say you go to casino as a adult version of amusement parks, paying with money chips, with slightly less than average chance of winning money, I am fine with that. But peopoe like our resident HFJ king here are saying they can go to casino, gamble professionally and win over the long run. Only fools can say such things with all honesty.
 
I cannot understand gamblers mentality here. With all the overheads and all the staff the casino have under its payroll, destroying decks of cards played only once, the Casino still make enough to pay taxes even. Surely the only losers are the punters. If you say you go to casino as a adult version of amusement parks, paying with money chips, with slightly less than average chance of winning money, I am fine with that. But peopoe like our resident HFJ king here are saying they can go to casino, gamble professionally and win over the long run. Only fools can say such things with all honesty.

Going by your logic, not even a winner a day? I am pretty sure you are not familiar with the gambling scene.
 
Some casinos in Europe and the US, such as in Atlantic City, have been bankrupted and closed down due to losses by professional gamblers.
 
The world's biggest gambler is Japanese property developer Akio Kashiwagi, who bets $20 million an hour at baccarat.
In 1990 he won $19 million in a casino in Darwin, Australia, and a further $6 million at the Trump Plaza in Atlantic City, USA.

Australian tycoon and legendary gambler, Kerry Packer won GBP 7 million playing blackjack over a one month period in London.

The late Robert Maxwell reputedly lost GBP 1.5 million in three minutes playing three roulette wheels simultaneously at the
prestigious Les Ambassadeurs casino in London. Visit a top online casino

Greek tycoon Frank Sarakakis lost some GBP 8 million playing roulette at the exclusive Crockford's Club in London in 1993.

Cocktail waitress Cynthia Jay-Brennan won a record breaking $35 million on a Megabucks progressive slot machine at the Sahara
casino in Las Vegas in 2000.

Ashley Revell bet his entire $135,000 life savings on a single spin of the roulette wheel at the Plaza Hotel in Las Vegas in 2004,
placing everything on 'red', and won walking away with $270,600.

Retail billionaire Sir Philip Green won GBP 2 million in just one evening in December 2004 playing roulette at Les Ambassadeurs
casino in London.

92-year old Elmer Sherwin achieved the near impossible in 2008 by winning a Megabucks progressive slot machine jackpot for the second time in Las Vegas. On this occasion he won $21 million at the Cannery casino, and in 1989 he won $4.6 million at the Mirage casino.

Big Brother 7 winner, Mike 'Boogie' Malin, who collected $500,000 won a further $150,000 in 2008 playing blackjack in Las Vegas.

Mike Ashley, the billionaire owner of Newcastle United, is the man who walked away from London's Fifty casino in 2008 with
GBP1.3 million, won on the single spin of a roulette wheel with his lucky number 17.
 
Another observation - you are able to detect winners and losers quite easily at the casinos. Those face-green-green ones are those losing. Those who smell because haven't bathed for days same same. Those who walk away quarrelling with their partners too.

The winners are always smiling, joking and laughing.
 
The infamous Gonzalo Garcia-Pelayo

Easily the most famous to cheat casinos in roulette, Gonzalo Garcia-Pelayo cleaned out many casinos after he cracked the code behind the spinning wheel. The one-time Spanish record producer went from the simple family life to earning well over $1.5 million playing roulette in Las Vegas over his career.

His roulette career began in Madrid with the simple theory that roulette wheels were not perfectly random. He spent hours recording roulette results and with the help of a computer, analyzing the results to discover the probabilities of the game.

Learning that die to imperfections in each wheel, Garcia-Pelayo learned that certain numbers fall more often than others. He used this knowledge to earn more than 600,000 Euros in one of his first nights in Madrid.

Clearly this discovery could not be wasted and Garcia-Pelayo came to Las Vegas where he operated in the early 1990s. Almost $2 million later, Garcia-Pelayo was banned from casinos after his method was deemed unethical. He didn't stand down, taking his fight to the Supreme Court, which ruled that he did nothing illegal.

The damage however was done and Garcia-Pelayo's gambling career ended there in 1992. Still, Garcia-Pelayo is known as a pioneer of roulette cheating and is the reason to this day that casinos constantly test and monitor the performance of their roulette wheels.

Read more at http://www.ranker.com/list/the-biggest-casino-cheaters-in-history/pokerpete#IwxXzBcBTsGoCHTC.99
 
This is a true story about big time gambling ....success, money and tragedy....

 
My e maths grades were not good. But when chances and probability were being taught, I paid a little more attention. The probability of winning at TOTO is 1 in 8.4 million. But its equally likely for a person who buy Toto for the first time and one who buys for donkey years to win at the next River HongBao draw. The odds are 100% you will lose eventually if you visit casino regularly and play as a 'professional gambler'. The only game you may win is from other less experienced gamblers in Texas hold-em. You will find such games in Macau where the Casino takes a cut. Rounders 1998 is a great Poker movie. Or you can read high brow books like The Signal and the Noise by Nate Silver.

Btw, as ex Mata, you probably done your share putting the wrong person behind bars and destroying his family. Don't waste further karma points hinting people you can win at Casino. Every 10 guys who think that way, most, if not all will destroy themselves and pull down their loved ones with them. Gambling addiction, like heroin, is a psychological disease and hard to cure, just like most jailbirds you caught who almost always go back to jail until kenna preventive detention.

Going by your logic, not even a winner a day? I am pretty sure you are not familiar with the gambling scene.
 
My e maths grades were not good. But when chances and probability were being taught, I paid a little more attention. The probability of winning at TOTO is 1 in 8.4 million. But its equally likely for a person who buy Toto for the first time and one who buys for donkey years to win at the next River HongBao draw. The odds are 100% you will lose eventually if you visit casino regularly and play as a 'professional gambler'. The only game you may win is from other less experienced gamblers in Texas hold-em. You will find such games in Macau where the Casino takes a cut. Rounders 1998 is a great Poker movie. Or you can read high brow books like The Signal and the Noise by Nate Silver.

Btw, as ex Mata, you probably done your share putting the wrong person behind bars and destroying his family. Don't waste further karma points hinting people you can win at Casino. Every 10 guys who think that way, most, if not all will destroy themselves and pull down their loved ones with them. Gambling addiction, like heroin, is a psychological disease and hard to cure, just like most jailbirds you caught who almost always go back to jail until kenna preventive detention.

Thanks. We will agree to disagree then.

Btw, I walk the streets without any worries. Yet to put the wrong person behind bars. I meet my ex-accused all over S'pore. Be it in KTVs, HFJs, casinos, Geylang etc. Never kena suaned before. They will come up, identify themselves and we chat about the past. Why are you so sure I put the wrong chap in jail? Bad experience with the cops or what? Relax lah bro. You may want to know that PD is no panacea.
 
Never got into trouble with the law where seize-able offense are concerned. Glad to hear you didn't betray your principles as cop despite the opportunities to go crooked like others, including NBG did. I once put a guy behind bars, he stole stuff and I itchy backside, besides naivete, decided to conduct a search. Met him when he came out, strange feeling to find he had no animosity with me. Similar to Stockholm Syndrome. Prisons does fuck up people heads. I know and have seen warders who beat the shit out of their prisoners. I also heard ex warders fondly tell how their meeting with their prisoners went, kind words and all. Maybe they are the only people who shared the same experience, one inside and the other outside bars. What I am saying, is, do not let your friendly meetings with your ex-cons be sole evidence that you have done right. For an ex-con, he'll never know when he is going to jail again, might as well be cordial and polite, given enough time he has already served in prison to stew.

Thanks. We will agree to disagree then.

Btw, I walk the streets without any worries. Yet to put the wrong person behind bars. I meet my ex-accused all over S'pore. Be it in KTVs, HFJs, casinos, Geylang etc. Never kena suaned before. They will come up, identify themselves and we chat about the past. Why are you so sure I put the wrong chap in jail? Bad experience with the cops or what? Relax lah bro. You may want to know that PD is no panacea.
 
Out of every 10 person, in a course of 1 year, how many will make money from the casino? Zero!
 
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