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SDP contesting Punggol East SMC

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Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) is planning to run for the by-election in Punggol-East. In a statement, SDP said that they have a slate of candidates capable of contesting but did not mention who. This does not include Chee Soon Juan, who will be disqualified until 2015.


3 horse race liao.... maybe Rp will make it 4 horse!
 
Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) is planning to run for the by-election in Punggol-East. In a statement, SDP said that they have a slate of candidates capable of contesting but did not mention who. This does not include Chee Soon Juan, who will be disqualified until 2015.


3 horse race liao.... maybe Rp will make it 4 horse!

if 4CF materialises...they are clowns.

WP, SDP, RP cant take Singaporeans for granted and just look at party without regard to Singapore and Singaporeans well being. If there are four corner fight, dont blame singaporeans for getting angry with such a ridiculous Opposition.

WP, SDP and RP must sit down to talk and fight together against the pap. I still think that this is just brinkmanship and that finally good sense prevails and it will be a straight fight between PAP and WP
 
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The only PAP 'B' Team Singaporeans witness past 20 years is SDP and Dr Chee.

Dr Chee broke up a perfectly growing SDP under Chiam See Tong and lost all 3 seats at GE1997 that was won at GE1991 under Chiam See Tong's SDP.

This is because Chee's SDP decide to focus on making as much inaccurate noise in Parliament, being aggressive in Parliament, exposing SDP to lawsuits , conducting civil disobedience and getting arrested rather than running town councils and bonding with residents via grassroots.

The loss caused Singaporeans to lose faith in Opposition for 20 years untl GE2011 when WP made a difficult breakthrough. PAP kept harping Opposition cannot run a SMC let alone a GRC because of SDP's loss at GE1997. SDP almost destroyed Opposition Cause with their antics.

Civil disobedience, bankruptcy, arrests, lawsuits etc gave Opposition a bad image and reminded Singaporeans to fear PAP even more. SDP actually made PAP more feared and more powerful instead and Singaporeans felt more hopeless.

Many good people wanted to join Opposition but seeing Dr Chee's situation decided not to. This lack of good people joining Opposition gave many Walkovers to PAP for 20 years in every elections. SDP only gave Walkovers to Singaporeans at elections because CSJ and gang kept getting barred from elections because of their antics.

What choice, what democracy, what rights, what hope, what change, what impact and what freedom did SDP gave Singaporeans past 20 years ? Nothing at all.

Democracy is not just freedom to have civil disobedience but democracy is also about giving people choice to change governments in elections, not change Opposition parties.

Now PAP once again wants to unleash the Kraken in CSJ to confuse and disrupt alternative parties progress from GE2011 by agreeing to give discount from $500,000 to $30,000 so that CSJ can take part in elections. Destructive, disruptive and history repeats itself.

SPP at least kept one seat in Parliament for 15 years after GE1997 and never got voted out and lose seats before GE2011. SPP was already small and weak when Chiam started it. 15 years down the road under different political landscape, SPP did contest one GRC at least. One less than SDP only who under Chee did not grow much too despite having longer time of brand name.

It took Chiam and SDP 15 years to win 3 seats at GE1991. So how can you say SDP would not have grown under Chiam when SDP did grew under Chiam at GE1991.

Not even WP lost seats before. JBJ was disqualified from Parliament after being charged and Yaw Shin Leong was sacked by WP. None was voted out.

SDP under Dr Chee after GE1997 past 15 years got voted out of Bukit Gombak and Nee Soon Central, never grow but got smaller and did not even win any seats. You call this good record ?

It is not grandmother's story but true facts. No Singaporean Opposition Supporter want to sacrifice another 20 years and see no result from any Alternative Parties.

Technically and officially, somebody here said there is only one Opposition in Parliament which is WP because the rest are either NCMPs or alternative parties with no seats. Even to be Opposition, political parties need to win enough seats to be Opposition.

I still believe in growing only WP to be Government as fast as possible base on Hougang and Aljunied platforms. This is irregardless what other alternative parties try to pull off, antics and plans. Every party have its own style, voters will decide.

No point running down each alternative parties now. You can run down WP all you want ONLY after WP is government and be blamed for WP government policies. No point running down WP when it is not responsible for the mess in Singapore.

No more Alternative Parties Musical Chairs we seen last 47 years.

I hardly see you commenting on negative PAP threads but comment on every negative WP thread and pretending to be SDP supporter and NSP supporter. I can only conclude you are a PAP IB.

All political parties have positives and negatives. Each wants to try their own style so let it be. Voters shall decide. SDP is free to continue to stage protest etc. WP is free to use its own tactical style. PAP is free to continue to run down anybody that gets in its way. NSP is free to continue to state the obvious. RP is free to continue to piggyback on whatever other parties started.

I dont think I am running down anybody here. I am just stating history and SDP's output last 20 years. I did not wish to do it but if people like Robox, TTR and Sam Lim continue to run down WP in all possible and petty ways instead of focusing on PAP which is the main reason for ruining Singaporean's lives, then I wish to join in the fun too.

TTR's record until BE2012 was normal, you seldom see people posting negatives about SDP and WP too and everyone were attacking only PAP. But BE2012 onwards, turn its focus on WP more so the negatives about WP, SDP, RP, NSP etc started appearing too. TTR is the root culprit for everything.

Yes, all political parties have its negatives but we leave it to Singapore Media to dig it out as tradition and Internet is more the opposite direction. All Opposition supporters understood all Alternative Parties have bad points as well but like Singapore Media for PAP, we help each other out by minimising these negatives for Alternative Parties.

Now TTR wants to upset the equilibrium and test all Alternative Parties supporters patience and confuse them. The Anti-WP and pro-SDP stance had upset the Balance and tilt into PAP's favour.

Then more and more people will join in the fun, end result could only be disaster for all alternative parties at GE2016 and glee for PAP as every alternative party supporter rather see each other die and drag each other down than let any alternative party beat them to beating PAP.

I hardly see you commenting on negative PAP threads but comment on every negative WP thread and pretending to be SDP supporter and NSP supporter. I can only conclude you are a PAP IB.

All political parties have positives and negatives. Each wants to try their own style so let it be. Voters shall decide. SDP is free to continue to stage protest etc. WP is free to use its own tactical style. PAP is free to continue to run down anybody that gets in its way. NSP is free to continue to state the obvious. RP is free to continue to piggyback on whatever other parties started.

I dont think I am running down anybody here. I am just stating history and SDP's output last 20 years. I did not wish to do it but if people like Robox, TTR and Sam Lim continue to run down WP in all possible and petty ways instead of focusing on PAP which is the main reason for ruining Singaporean's lives, then I wish to join in the fun too.

TTR's record until BE2012 was normal, you seldom see people posting negatives about SDP and WP too and everyone were attacking only PAP. But BE2012 onwards, turn its focus on WP more so the negatives about WP, SDP, RP, NSP etc started appearing too. TTR is the root culprit for everything.

Yes, all political parties have its negatives but we leave it to Singapore Media to dig it out as tradition and Internet is more the opposite direction. All Opposition supporters understood all Alternative Parties have bad points as well but like Singapore Media for PAP, we help each other out by minimising these negatives for Alternative Parties.

Now TTR wants to upset the equilibrium and test all Alternative Parties supporters patience and confuse them. The Anti-WP and pro-SDP stance had upset the Balance and tilt into PAP's favour.

Then more and more people will join in the fun, end result could only be disaster for all alternative parties at GE2016 and glee for PAP as every alternative party supporter rather see each other die and drag each other down than let any alternative party beat them to beating PAP.
 
if 4CF materialises...they are clowns.
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I still think that this is just brinkmanship and that finally good sense prevails and it will be a straight fight between PAP and WP

No. They are just egoistic.

Good sense or what I'd call self awareness is a very, very rare trait among politicians.
 
This is absolutely good news. Punggol East does not belong to the Workers Party.

Any political party or citizen should have the free right to contest in an election.

Instead of asking other parties not to contest, the Workers Party should step aside and let other parties contest.
 
if 4CF materialises...they are clowns.

WP, SDP, RP cant take Singaporeans for granted and just look at party without regard to Singapore and Singaporeans well being. If there are four corner fight, dont blame singaporeans for getting angry with such a ridiculous Opposition.

WP, SDP and RP must sit down to talk and fight together against the pap. I still think that this is just brinkmanship and that finally good sense prevails and it will be a straight fight between PAP and WP

Precisely my sentiments. From the get go, why can't they agree on a single coordinated strategy to take on the PAP behemoth? Allow the party that stands the best chance to go one on one with the PAP. If the SDP and RP field candidates, it would be blatantly clear to all that they are just focusing on party interest and not Singaporeans. A three or four corner fight is a great disservice to Singaporeans. What kind of opposition do we have, when they keep doing us in?

And while we are talking, we are still waiting to see if the PM has the courage to call a by-election.
 
I still think that this is just brinkmanship and that finally good sense prevails and it will be a straight fight between PAP and WP

Why is it not good sense to have a straight fight between PAP and RP or PAP and SDP? Why must it be WP? If WP sees no sense in stepping back, why should RP or SDP step back? After all WP already has 8 members in parliament, if WP sees no sense in stepping back, then a free for all is the best outcome?

If the SDP and RP field candidates, it would be blatantly clear to all that they are just focusing on party interest and not Singaporeans.

Likewise if WP field candidates, it would be blatantly clear to all that they are just focusing on party interest and not Singaporeans.
 
Why is it not good sense to have a straight fight between PAP and RP or PAP and SDP? Why must it be WP? If WP sees no sense in stepping back, why should RP or SDP step back? After all WP already has 8 members in parliament, if WP sees no sense in stepping back, then a free for all is the best outcome?

Did I say that there shd be no straight fight between PAP and RP or PAP and SDP?

When did I say it must be PAP vs WP? All I wish is for the Opposition to come together and put up one candidate to fight the pap. I hope that the Opposition will not split its votes.

Dont be so blinded that you only read what you want to read
 
Any political party or citizen should have the free right to contest in an election.

Instead of asking other parties not to contest, the Workers Party should step aside and let other parties contest.

Can you point out where and when did WP ask anybody not to contest? In fact I dun remember them asking any used tissue paper, alien, etc, etc not to contest in Hougang BE2012. Of course I stand corrected lah.

So from this point onwards, can those fake 40% stop accusing WP if WP really contest in MP, Tampines, etc, etc?
 
Precisely my sentiments. From the get go, why can't they agree on a single coordinated strategy to take on the PAP behemoth? Allow the party that stands the best chance to go one on one with the PAP.

Agree. It would send a clear signal that Oppo cause is really gaining momentum if all Oppo focus their resource to help this one, best chance to contest against the White Scums.

But of course, I'm just dreaming when I wish for that to happen.
 
That Chee bye kia should stay in bankrupt forever. He will lost another $16k and many more

Other Opp should stay out of Punggol East and let WP take on PAP.
 
Vincent Wijeysingha should lead SDP to contest Puggol East, he did well with Transient Workers Count Too (TWC2) and Human Rights.
 
This is absolutely good news. Punggol East does not belong to the Workers Party.

I agree with you. It belongs to the PAP for a long time to come until this generation of Opposition politicians disappeared from the scene and replaced by a new generation that studies maths and can pass a simple counting test.
 
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I agree with you. It belongs to the PAP for a long time to come until this generation of Opposition politicians disappeared from the scene and replaced by a new generation that studies maths and can pass a simple counting test.

Like understanding the real magnitude of those astronomically high salaries taken by the top leaders?
 
hahaha.....what type of credible opps is this???
Is this a game of poker where you indulge in brinksmanship???
if you want to negotiate, u do so behind close doors.....
whenever u made a public announcement and then back out of it, u will loose your credibilities......period.
So it will be hard for SDP to back off now.
 
hahaha.....what type of credible opps is this???
Is this a game of poker where you indulge in brinksmanship???
if you want to negotiate, u do so behind close doors.....
whenever u made a public announcement and then back out of it, u will loose your credibilities......period.
So it will be hard for SDP to back off now.

1. LHL, like you, wld be elated to think that it is going to be a 4CF fight...PAP vs WP vs SDP vs RP. LHL wld think that his prayer has been answered and wld lower his guard ..sure PAP win..and go in for the by-election sooner rather than later.

2. Now WP will be more willingly to discuss with SDP and RP on election trade-offs for the BE and also for the next GE in order to avoid 4CF?

3. SDP and RP come out of this riding high on magnanimity, giving in to Opposition Unity for the sake of SG and Singaporeans and also getting concessions from WP for the next GE allocation.

4. Is there a possiblity that LHL will be complacent now and PE BE will be called in Mar 2013? Contest between PAP and WP only...SDP and RP stating that they are not contesting on Nomination Day for the sake of Opposition Unity and backing WP? Shocker for PAP?

So this RP and SDP throwing in their hats now may be a good idea...the ball is in LHL's court now.

Is it real or just a bait? LHL wld look doubly silly to still not dare call for a PE BE despite this 4CF contest. He will not be able to face anyone if he chickens out from this BE..so the main loser maybe LHL...dont call BE sure die, call BE in 2013, can fall into RP, SDP trap

Shd LHL quickly call for BE ?
 
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1. LHL, like you, wld be elated to think that it is a going to be a 4CF fight...PAP vs WP vs SDP vs RP. LHL wld think that his prayer has been answered and wld lower his guard ..sure PAP win..and go in for the by-election sooner rather than later.

2. WP will be more willingly to discuss with SDP and RP on election trade-offs for the BE and also for the next GE.

3. SDP and RP come out of this riding high on magnimity//giving into Opposition Unity for the sake of SG and Singaporeans and also getting concessions from WP for the next GE allocation.

4. Is there a possiblity that PE BE will be called in Mar 2013? Contest between APA and WP...SDP and RP withdrawing for the sake of Opposition Unity and backing WP? Shocker for PAP?

So this RP and SDP throwing in their hats now may be a good idea...the ball is in LHL's court now.

Is it real or just a bait?

Shd LHL quickly call for BE ?
hahaha....i have no interest to engage u
i only note the following:
"lhl, like u would be elated"????
so now I am confirmed to be a papee supporter....must i find a hole to hide myself???
 
hahaha....i have no interest to engage u
i only note the following:
"lhl, like u would be elated"????
so now I am confirmed to be a papee supporter....must i find a hole to hide myself???

no need lah..no need to apologise for what you believe...just be yourself...nothing wrong with supporting whom you like...free choice
 
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