WP: Why are PAP town council-developed software systems transferred to 3 ex-PAP MPs?

[Confuseous]

Workers Party chairman Sylvia Lim has raised the issue of the systems' ownership used by the 14 PAP town councils, asking why these councils, which had developed them, had transferred the ownership to a third party.

AIM became the new owners in January last year and its three directors are former PAP MPs: Mr Chandra Das, Mr Chew Heng Ching and Mr Lau Ping Sum.

She also questioned AIM's contract with town councils, as it allows the company "to issue a one-month termination notice should there be a material change to the composition of the town council."

She said: "How is it in the public interest to have such a thing?"

Asked if she was saying that the move was politically motivated, Ms Lim said: "I'm asking why the agreement was structured this way and why the PAP town councils relinquished ownership of the systems."

Attempts to contact AIM last night were unsuccessful.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

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Exposé more....educate the daft 60.1%

 

[hairylee]

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Basically the Town Council paid for the software development with a IT company. After a few years they transfer this developed software to their three donkeys - chandra das, chew heng ching and lau peng sunk.
There is some fish in there.

 

[Charlie99]

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If the intention of developing the said software is to assist and enhance the administration of Town councils, then please charge a reasonable fee re: licensing and avoid politics, as it is supposedly for the benefit of Singaporeans (while making a profit).

 

[hairylee]

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If the intention of developing the said software is to assist and enhance the administration of Town councils, then please charge a reasonable fee re: licensing and avoid politics, as it is supposedly for the benefit of Singaporeans (while making a profit).

I have repeated many times - the economic power of this land is in the hands of LKY and cronies; they will run this country to the ground, if they have to, to maintain their status and power. What they will claim to the contrary is plain bullshit.

 

[Char_Azn]

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Didn't WP immediately transfer management of Aljunied to their kaki who was handling Hougang once they got elected as well. Pot calling kettle black

 

[Green Light]

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Firm defends itself against WP comment

My Paper
Tuesday, Dec 18, 2012

SINGAPORE - The company that Aljunied-Hougang Town Council chairman Sylvia Lim identified as a factor for the town council's less-than-stellar performance defended itself against the comment yesterday.

Last Friday, a performance report on town councils here by the National Development Ministry showed that Aljunied- Hougang Town Council was the only one that did not have a corporate-governance score.

The ministry said this was because the council had not submitted the auditor's management letter in time.

Ms Lim said in a statement that a reason for the delay was that use of the council's computer and financial systems was terminated by Action Information Management. The firm owns the systems, developed by the People's Action Party town councils.

The Workers' Party (WP) runs the Aljunied-Hougang Town Council, formed after WP won Aljunied GRC at last year's May General Election.

Ms Lim, who is WP's chairman, said that following the election, her town council was notified that use of its computer and financial systems would be terminated from August last year "due to material changes to the membership of the town council".

Ms Lim said this meant the council had to develop its own systems in a two-month timeframe, which was a "near-impossible task".

However, Mr S. Chandra Das, chairman of Action Information Management, clarified in a letter to the media yesterday that the council had requested two extensions from the firm on the use of the systems.

The first one was until Aug 31 last year and the second one was until Sept 9 last year, which Mr Chandra Das said Action Information Management had "readily agreed" to.

"If Aljunied-Hougang Town Council had asked for a longer extension, Action Information Management would have similarly agreed," he said.

"However, after the second extension, (the council) did not ask for further extensions."

 

[goondusamy]

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Exposé more....educate the daft 60.1%

Majority of the 60% are deaf to such input which exposed the dirty politics the LEEgime is playing. What to do?

They are so brainwashed that even if the LEEgime were to cause them to lost their jobs to the fallen talents, these 60% would still think it is their own doing that caused them to lose their jobs. WTF!!

 

[batman1]

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This episode shows the PAP to be a sore loser.This shows the childishness and immaturity of the PAP.Are the 3 ex-PAP musketeers going to hold the Opposition TCs for ransom ? So if the PAP lost power,are they also going to transfer out the national reserves to some PAP entities ???

 

[hairylee]

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This episode shows the PAP to be a sore loser.This shows the childishness and immaturity of the PAP.Are the 3 ex-PAP musketeers going to hold the Opposition TCs for ransom ? So if the PAP lost power,are they also going to transfer out the national reserves to some PAP entities ???

It had already been done. There is no such thing as national reserves, otherwise, why would it take 100 man years to do a audit.

 

[kingrant]

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Aiyah! My idol kukubird will tell you that if you are in power, you will also do it mah. Why constantly humtum the PAP when any party will do the same when it comes to power? kukubird my idol will tell you if indeed this is illegal, the govt will prosecute those responsible, but since this has not happened, everything is hunky-dory. Just go back to sleep lah!

Workers Party chairman Sylvia Lim has raised the issue of the systems' ownership used by the 14 PAP town councils, asking why these councils, which had developed them, had transferred the ownership to a third party.

AIM became the new owners in January last year and its three directors are former PAP MPs: Mr Chandra Das, Mr Chew Heng Ching and Mr Lau Ping Sum.

She also questioned AIM's contract with town councils, as it allows the company "to issue a one-month termination notice should there be a material change to the composition of the town council."

She said: "How is it in the public interest to have such a thing?"

Asked if she was saying that the move was politically motivated, Ms Lim said: "I'm asking why the agreement was structured this way and why the PAP town councils relinquished ownership of the systems."

Attempts to contact AIM last night were unsuccessful.

 

[mscitw]

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Workers Party chairman Sylvia Lim has raised the issue of the systems' ownership used by the 14 PAP town councils, asking why these councils, which had developed them, had transferred the ownership to a third party.

AIM became the new owners in January last year and its three directors are former PAP MPs: Mr Chandra Das, Mr Chew Heng Ching and Mr Lau Ping Sum.

She also questioned AIM's contract with town councils, as it allows the company "to issue a one-month termination notice should there be a material change to the composition of the town council."

She said: "How is it in the public interest to have such a thing?"

Asked if she was saying that the move was politically motivated, Ms Lim said: "I'm asking why the agreement was structured this way and why the PAP town councils relinquished ownership of the systems."

Attempts to contact AIM last night were unsuccessful.

Further proof that Ruler Loong is constantly using donkey antics to make life difficult for political pariahs. This is an ingenious move, it provide jobs for the former lackeys (Serpent Das, Cockroach Chew and Vulture Lau) who will no doubt make life difficult for the opposition town councils on behalf of Ruler Loong.

Despite his PR tricks, Ruler Loong is a Prince who inherited his papa's political legacy and such dirty tricks are not beyond him. Will a good guy tax the poor to help the poor? Will a decent guy think of new tricks to fix the opposition pariahs? Heck, he even adopts the Maoist 'Hundred Flowers Campaign' to identify peasant dissenters....hence peasants should agitate for Punggol East fief to have a by-erection to balk that evil Prince.

 

[ray_of_hope]

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Lau Ping Sum had a son who was studying at Oxford:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/soc.culture.singapore/kk7f26RD01I

 

[laksaboy]

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Exposé more....educate the daft 60.1%

Unfortunately, I'm quite sure many of the 60.1% depend on the PAP govt for jobs and perks. It may be getting fat contracts through cronies, or getting certain intangible perks by participating in PAP grassroots events. They want the PAP to rule forever and ever, as there are personal interests at stake.

 

[ray_of_hope]

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Unfortunately, I'm quite sure many of the 60.1% depend on the PAP govt for jobs and perks. It may be getting fat contracts through cronies, or getting certain intangible perks by participating in PAP grassroots events. They want the PAP to rule forever and ever, as there are personal interests at stake.

A huge part (though not all) of the 60.1% is exactly as you describe. It is simply self-interest, or, as I have said often enough here, selfishness on their part. They are far from being stupid or moronic. They are simply selfish. What is so difficult to understand about that?

 

[Bigfuck]

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What does extension mean? Any lanjiao lang knows extension means fuck off. Fuck off Chandra Das.

 

[pakjiaosniper]

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note: AIM provides financial systems * archive may contain very sensitive information * quick termination could be a way to prevent discovery of "improper conduct"

 

[jw5]

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A huge part (though not all) of the 60.1% is exactly as you describe. It is simply self-interest, or, as I have said often enough here, selfishness on their part. They are far from being stupid or moronic. They are simply selfish. What is so difficult to understand about that?

Bro, it's not just selfishness, there are other reasons too, as I posted in another thread.

Some are doing it because they get benefits, some because they think they will get future benefits, some because they are eternally grateful, some because they are doing ok and don't spare a thought for others (i.e. selfish assholes), some because they are scared, stupid, ignorant, brainwashed, etc etc.

Bro zhihau added the category of sycophants, which is very apt given recent events.

Any other categories?

 

[watchman8]

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I have repeated many times - the economic power of this land is in the hands of LKY and cronies; they will run this country to the ground, if they have to, to maintain their status and power. What they will claim to the contrary is plain bullshit.

Yes, and I keep repeating myself that sinkies must insist full transparency on temasick and GIC. If even at town council level they can steal in broad daylight, it is not hard to imagine what they will do under total secrecy of temasick and GIC, which are a lot bigger than the town councils.

 

[ray_of_hope]

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Bro, it's not just selfishness, there are other reasons too, as I posted in another thread.

Some are doing it because they get benefits, some because they think they will get future benefits, some because they are eternally grateful, some because they are doing ok and don't spare a thought for others (i.e. selfish assholes), some because they are scared, stupid, ignorant, brainwashed, etc etc.

Bro zhihau added the category of sycophants, which is very apt given recent events.

Any other categories?

jw5, when you say some are doing it for benefits or that some are sycophants, all of that adds up to the same thing -- self-interest and selfishness. These people cannot look beyond the narrow confines of their own situation or that of their family's. I discussed this very issue with friends over lunch this past weekend and we came to exactly the same conclusion. In Spore very few people will stand up for others who are being victimised. That is not in their character. This is the problem of most whose antecedents is peasant stock.

I don't think being "stupid, ignorant, brainwashed" are valid excuses to explain voting patterns. These reasons may have been valid 20 years ago, but not in the current information age.