Apple Launches iPhone 5 in China

[Wildfire]

APPLE officially puts its iPhone 5*on sale in China today in a move that should halt the slide in its share of what
is already the world's biggest smartphone market.

China is Apple's second-largest and fastest-growing market - it brings in around 15pc of total revenue - but
the company's failure to strike a deal with China Mobile means it is missing out on a large number of phone users.

On Friday, just one person was waiting outside the Apple store in Shanghai's financial district when its doors
opened at 9am, a contrast to the launch of the iPhone 4 earlier this year when rowdy crowds pelted a Beijing store
with eggs.

Apple's ranking in China's smartphone market slipped to sixth in July-September, according to IDC, but investors,
primed to look to China product launches for an uptick in Apple's quarterly sales, failed to have good headline
numbers to digest - with just over 300,000 iPhones pre-ordered on China's second largest carrier. The lack of
a deal with the No.1 carrier prevents those numbers being stronger.

 

[Cestbon]

Now all using SAMSUNG S3 or Note 2.
Only idiot will buy Iphone now.

 

[blackmondy]

Now all using SAMSUNG S3 or Note 2.
Only idiot will buy Iphone now.

It should be "Only iDiot will buy iPhone now".

 

[Alamaking]

Many people sti using iphone leh lol, but thank god google map is back. Big mistake to ditch google map in the 1st place.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Going by Tony's logic, china chow ah qua's population is lower then global average....

 

[Cestbon]

Many people sti using iphone leh lol, but thank god google map is back. Big mistake to ditch google map in the 1st place.

Those use IPHone now grape sour those using S3 and Note 2.
Iphone only brand.
For quality and function still Samsung best.

 

[laksaboy]

Now all using SAMSUNG S3 or Note 2.
Only idiot will buy Iphone now.

Nope, only idiots buy Windows phones now.

iPhones and Android phones cater to different segments of the market. Both can coexist side-by-side.

Microsoft's entire ecosystem (Bing, Skydrive, Internet Explorer etc.) is an epic fail.

 

[DogVader]

Going by Tony's logic, china chow ah qua's population is lower then global average....

Sorry sir, which Tony?

Arf Arf...

 

[johnny333]

Even Samsung executives find that the Apple eco system to be sticky


Thursday, December 13, 2012, 10:35 am

Samsung's chief strategy officer admits to using Apple's iPhone, iPad & Mac at home
By Katie Marsal

One of the top executives at Apple's chief rival, Samsung, has admitted that he uses an iPhone, iPad and Mac at home, largely due to Apple's "sticky" ecosystem.

Young Sohn admitted his personal preference for Apple's tightly connected ecosystem in an interview with MIT Technology Review, published on Thursday. Sohn began working as president and chief strategy officer at Samsung in August out of Silicon Valley in California.

Sohn acknowledged that Apple is a "very innovative company," and noted that Apple is a customer of Samsung's as well as a fierce competitor. He said he's always used a Mac, along with an iPhone and an iPad, because Apple's ecosystem is "sticky," making it convenient to buy in to the company's product lineup.

The Samsung executive said he believes customers are even more drawn to Apple's ecosystem, with services like iCloud, than they are to the products themselves. He said the Galaxy Nexus is a "better phone" than the iPhone, but added that the "connected ecosystem is really critical."

"At work I'm using Samsung devices; Apple at home, mainly because all of my systems and files are done that way," Sohn admitted. "That's sticky, you know? However, I did figure out how to sync all of my contacts and all of my schedules between the two different systems. You can do it. It's a bit of work, but it's possible."



Going forward, Sohn said he would like to see Samsung offer a more complete experience than it currently does. He said Samsung provides more devices that consumers interact with than anyone in the world, but Samsung's current philosophy is 'device-centric."

"It's experienced by itself. It's not experienced in a connected way," he said. "So we think we can provide a lot more things than what we are doing today with an open ecosystem with our partners."

Samsung is one of the main component suppliers for Apple, but Apple is believed to be making an effort to move away from reliance on Samsung as the two companies have grown in competition with one another.

Officials at Apple are particularly upset by what they see as blatant copying of devices like the iPhone and iPad in Samsung's product lineup. A jury in California agreed with Apple in August and ruled that Samsung had infringed on Apple's patented designs, hitting Samsung with $1.05 billion in damages.

 

[eatshitndie]

the problem with china mobile with her 700m subscriber base for apple or for any device manufacturer is her 3g and 4g technologies, which are not widely used in the world. while her 2g is based on gsm and gprs, her 3g is td-scdma. no global device supplier except for a few homegrown ones would want to invest in a non-standardized and dead-end tech. as of spring this year, she reported only 60m subs using td-scdma, out of a total base of 700m. more than 90% of her subscriber base are still on 2g gsm/gprs. the iphone 3 will suffice for much of her base. and there are many china mobile subs who are using jail-broken iphone 3 and 4 variants. the umts and hspa capability on the 4s is useless on her network. she has just finished trials on 4g and is launching in many cities. but her 4g is td-lte which is very different from 4g lte that is being used in the u.s. and many european countries. the global 4g lte version is based on fdd, while some provisions are made for tdd. this makes it very difficult for chipsets to be inclusive of both. apple or other device makers' baseband chipset supply chain will have to go out of their way to make special variants to support both, plus covering various spectrum combinations. it's not so much apple's choice to cut a deal with china mobile but it has more to do with technology alignment, standardization stability, and availability of chipsets for timely mass production at the right cost.

 

[Alamaking]

Those use IPHone now grape sour those using S3 and Note 2.
Iphone only brand.
For quality and function still Samsung best.

I not sour grape leh Cestbon, in terms of quality (material) of the phone, Apple still wins, but technology Samsung wins. Functions is debatable, for 3rd parties support, iTunes 800 million downloads speaks volume.

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

wtf iphone 5? That's like ancient news. In other reports PM LHL was sworn in to take over PM GCT.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

I not sour grape leh Cestbon, in terms of quality (material) of the phone, Apple still wins, but technology Samsung wins. Functions is debatable, for 3rd parties support, iTunes 800 million downloads speaks volume.

Samsung copy Apple...so Apple is tops

 

[Cestbon]

Samsung copy Apple...so Apple is tops

Competition is copying each other. Then why China copy cannot have quality?
Quality need R&D and brain. Apple also copy other. So in business if some one can copy and make it better win.

 

[laksaboy]

Competition is copying each other. Then why China copy cannot have quality?
Quality need R&D and brain. Apple also copy other. So in business if some one can copy and make it better win.

China's style of copying is no holds barred, buay paiseh type. Typical behavior of communist shitholes.

Here is proof:

[video=youtube;0-JULFxB0sk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-JULFxB0sk[/video]

 

[Alamaking]

Competition is copying each other. Then why China copy cannot have quality?
Quality need R&D and brain. Apple also copy other. So in business if some one can copy and make it better win.

But u still can't deny the facts Apple is still no.1 tech company in the world

Sure there have many hiccups after Jobs death, Samsung is catching up, but Apple still no.1.