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FAP: Daft SGs misunderstood Minister Lui’s remarks

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[h=2]MP Gan: Public has misunderstood Minister Lui’s remarks[/h]
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December 9th, 2012 |
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Mr Gan Thiam Poh, MP for Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC, says the public transport fare review hopes to make the link between wages for public transport workers and fares clearer. This is “so people can understand there is correlationship, to make it more reflective of the cost structure.”
Mr Gan, who is also a member of the Government Parliamentary Committee (GPC) for Transport, was speaking at a neighbourhood public forum in Hougang on Sunday morning. He was replying to questions from this writer.

Mr Gan was asked for his views on several questions, namely: the rationale behind Transport Minister Lui Tuck Yew’s recent comments that fares will have to rise in order to “improve drivers’ pay”, and why the government is saying this despite the fact that the transport operators are making healthy profits.

The Workers’ Party, in a statement released on Sunday, pointed to this as well.

“The two public transport operators (PTOs) remain very profitable,” the party said. “SMRT and SBS Transit turned a profit of $119.9 million and $36.7 million respectively in the last financial year, while providing shareholders a return on equity (ROE) of 15.1% and 11.3% respectively over the same period. In contrast, the median ROE for Singapore Exchange-listed companies over the past year was 7.8%.”
In a 10-minute exchange with this writer, Mr Gan says that in fact there is no confirmation or certainty that there will be a fare increase next year.
What Mr Lui meant, Mr Gan explains, is that the current fare formula does not show the link between wages and fares and thus it might be good to make this clearer in the formula. :oIo:

Thus, what actually the government is trying to do is to “to review this formula.” Mr Gan also said the trains service are subsidising the bus service as “the buses do not make money”, he said he was told. :oIo:

Mr Lui’s remarks on 7 December have attracted criticism, especially online, with many questioning the rationale and the timing of such an announcement, given the recent strike incident at SMRT and the continuing problems with the transport system.

“Any fare adjustment will allow the two operators to have more resources in time to come to make further salary adjustments,” Mr Lui said. “We recognise that the drivers need to be paid more. (The) question is where is that money coming from?” (TODAY)

What is also unclear is the relationship between wages and fares, given the seemingly contradictory statements made by different officials.

In March, Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam announced a S$1.1 billion Bus Services Enhancement Fund for the transport companies. Part of this is to help them purchase 800 new buses.

“IF THE Government does not step in to help public transport operators SBS Transit and SMRT improve bus services,” the Straits Times reported Mr Tharman’s explanation, “commuters will have to pay 15 cents more in fares per journey to get the better service they want.”

In February, Mr S Iswaran, Second Minister for Home Affairs and Second Minister for Trade and Industry, said “part of this funding is also designed to address some of the operating cost implications over the next 10 years.”

It would thus seem that the government is also lending a helping hand to the operators in terms of wages as well, which would be part of their operating costs.

In May, however, commenting on the wage increase for its workers by SMRT, Mr Cedric Foo, the chairman of the Transport GPC, said he didn’t “think there’s a direct correlation between drivers’ wages and bus fares”, when he was asked if the pay rise would mean increased fares.

So, do fares have any linkage to wages for transport workers? And since the government is already heavily subsidising transport operators’ costs (for as long as the next 10 years), why’re transport operators still allowed to increase fares? These are some of the questions which the public are asking.

But they are not new questions. The operators are allowed a window each year to submit applications for fares “review”, a euphemistic term for fare increase. This has always raised the ire of commuters and members of the public. This time, however, the anger is more pronounced, given the numerous breakdowns, bad maintenance regimes, and bad Human Resource management in the SMRT which resulted in Singapore’s first strike in two and a half decades.

As for Mr Lui’s remarks about possible fare increases next year, Mr Gan says, “I think people have misunderstood.”

What is on record is that fares have been raised 8 times since 2000.

“Commuters should not be expected to pay higher fares, especially when service standards remain unsatisfactory,” the WP said, “as they have been since the last fare hike. The Government and PTOs must put the public interest before shareholders’ interests. If PTOs are unable to do so because of their obligations to shareholders, public transport should be taken out of private hands and run by a not-for-profit corporation which focuses on providing efficient and quality public transport, instead of generating shareholder returns.”

Meantime, here is the 10-minute exchange between this writer and MP Gan Thiam Poh in Hougang on Sunday morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQxRsyQ2Psg&feature=player_embedded
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* Andrew helms publichouse.sg as Editor-in-Chief. His writings have been reproduced in other publications, including the Australian Housing Journal in 2010. He was nominated by Yahoo! Singapore as one of Singapore’s most influential media persons in 2011.
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GAN THIAM POH was appointed on 20 May 2009 as an Independent Director of our Company and redesignated as the Lead Independent Director with effect from 1 July 2010. Mr Gan is currently the Senior Vice President of the Institutional Banking Group, DBS Bank Ltd. He has more than 20 years of experience in Banking and Finance specialising in corporate credit as well as advisory of financial solutions. He is also a Member of Parliament for Pasir Ris - Punggol Group Representation Constituency. Mr Gan holds a Bachelor of Science (Economics and Mathematics) degree from the National University of Singapore.

Listen to his speech and look at this. My god.........
 
What fucking formula is Gan talking about?

A supermarket deals with thousands of items and you expect to make profits from every item?
It is widely known in business you make some and you lose some but the bottom line is all that matters.
If the big mouth minister think bus services are not making money...for fuck sake give up the bus business! Nobody is pointing the gun at SMRT that they must be in the bus business.
 
that farker was bluffing the residents that rental flats are being build asap by hdb so ppl must be patient as good stuffs need to wait. but didnt explain why SER flats were rent out to foreigners instead of singaporeans.

he also try to curry favour with the residents who want new flats nearby for their children by revealing that hdb already earmark a project within gan's area of control for BTO next year.

the main thing was even the crowd that seated to listen to his BS were RC members with very few neutral residents in their midst. i was there because the wayang was just outside the wet market and limpeh left immediately buying what i need.
 
This is LKY's high quality minister, better than CSM. ROFL. CSJ or even YSL is better. Even LHD is better.
 
This is a perfect example of what Leongsam says "talking through one's arse".

After all the roundabout bullshit, absolutely no point of any substance has been made. The only thing that stands out is that they think so far, there has been no correlation between fares and wages, and now they think there should be.

It's nothing but a long-winded way of saying they want to raise fares as a way to teach Singaporeans a lesson in pain, that nothing in life comes for free.

What a load of crap.
 
I'm surprised Cedric Fool is still in parliament. I thought he was put to sleep liao.
 
I'm surprised Cedric Fool is still in parliament. I thought he was put to sleep liao.

They "shoot horses don't they"...we are the fools all these deadwood in there..remember we have one "jiat leow bee", Limp Beh Heng, we paid for so many decades....
 
The operators are allowed a window each year to submit applications for fares “review”,

Commonsense will tell you that a fare "review" can never be for lower fares, unless the sun rises from the West. Stupid idiots indeed.
 
A Pappy Scum defending his fellow Pappy Scum..


'' You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.''
 
I'm surprised Cedric Fool is still in parliament. I thought he was put to sleep liao.



hi there



1. bro, our only solution: 2016
2. all ball-licking sheep, crying sheep & of course running dogs, zorro & big mouther shall be gone.
 
The audience at that event look like totally screwed up. Is that what they call the grassroots?
They ambled down from their blocks of pigeonholes to listen to their dear MP!!! :D
 
What fucking formula is Gan talking about?

Ha ha - don't talk about trying to understand some formula or other. I don't even understand what the fark he's saying at all. This is the kind of talent that DBS/PAP have? He cannot even speak well, let alone make sense. And he has no farking excuse because in his own words, he is in the same transport committee at the other Fool, the one named Cedric.
 
Train service subsidizing bus service?? What B.S. again from the Gan clown.
 
hi there



1. bro, our only solution: 2016
2. all ball-licking sheep, crying sheep & of course running dogs, zorro & big mouther shall be gone.


1.Tai lo
2. Even 2036 they will still be in power
3. Mo gan tai arh
 
They can sell prata already. Always flipping here and there. No wonder they like Indians and pinoys.
 
2. Even 2036 they will still be in power

Yup. They will march towards a glorious future hand-in-hand with the mass of new citizens (Pinoys, PRCs, Indians).
Native borns will still be dreaming avout regime change even then!!! :D
 
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