steve jobs no more, apple also no more...

[krafty]

wanna bet, apple will no longer be great within the next 10 years...?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/05/us-apple-shares-idUSBRE8B40VK20121205

 

[Equalisation]

wanna bet, apple will no longer be great within the next 10 years...?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/05/us-apple-shares-idUSBRE8B40VK20121205

Tuan,

No worries, melons takeover !:o

 

[Leongsam]

I'd say more like 3 years... probably less.

When a technology company starts going backwards, it usually goes down like a lead weight.

 

[krafty]

3 years too short, how long did nokia crumble from it's heyday?

I'd say more like 3 years... probably less.

When a technology company starts going backwards, it usually goes down like a lead weight.

 

[singveld]

I'd say more like 3 years... probably less.

When a technology company starts going backwards, it usually goes down like a lead weight.

how can a die hard apple fanboy like you say such things?

 

[Sideswipe]

it will be quite a dramatic collapse for apple to crumble down like nokia. pretty unlikely.

 

[Mdm Tang]

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In the fiscal cliff debate, the wrangling continues as both sides apparently continue to dig into their respective positions.* Now just 26 days remain until the U.S. economy goes over the cliff, however, even more urgently, Congress is scheduled to be in session only seven more days before the Christmas break.
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[bushtucker]

hmm apple crumble... the android fanboys will savour that.

 

[Mdm Tang]

Tuan,

No worries, melons takeover !:o

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Datoh ,


apa melon ?

 

[ray_of_hope]

Such companies do well when they are in a near monopoly position as they can sell their gadgets at high prices. When others muscle in, not only is their market share squeezed but, to compete, they are forced to lower prices as well. Apple may well have passed its heyday.

 

[Leongsam]

how can a die hard apple fanboy like you say such things?

I'm not an Apple fanboy. Apart from Mac OS X which is by far the best operating system by a country mile, the rest of Apple stuff is absolute crap. IOS is a nightmare for me. So is iTunes which I've always found very confusing and hardly intuitive.

My support for Apple was for its OS vs Microshit. When Steve started making gimmicky consumer products, he lost me. Instead of keeping Apple as a niche player, he turned Apple into a Microsoft.

 

[johnny333]

Such companies do well when they are in a near monopoly position as they can sell their gadgets at high prices. When others muscle in, not only is their market share squeezed but, to compete, they are forced to lower prices as well. Apple may well have passed its heyday.

People forget that when Apple 1st entered the smartphone market they were the underdogs. There were already many companies dominating the industry like Nokia, Blackberry, ....

Before one writes off Apple & the iPhone just look at the prediction of a famous IT guru when the iPhone was 1st introduced

[video=youtube;eywi0h_Y5_U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U[/video]

 

[singveld]

niche provider cannot earn as much money as mass appeal. all about dollars and cents.

I'm not an Apple fanboy. Apart from Mac OS X which is by far the best operating system by a country mile, the rest of Apple stuff is absolute crap. IOS is a nightmare for me. So is iTunes which I've always found very confusing and hardly intuitive.

My support for Apple was for its OS vs Microshit. When Steve started making gimmicky consumer products, he lost me. Instead of keeping Apple as a niche player, he turned Apple into a Microsoft.

 

[ray_of_hope]

People forget that when Apple 1st entered the smartphone market they were the underdogs. There were already many companies dominating the industry like Nokia, Blackberry, ....

Before one writes off Apple & the iPhone just look at the prediction of a famous IT guru when the iPhone was 1st introduced

[video=youtube;eywi0h_Y5_U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U[/video]

I am not writing it off. I am saying its heyday may be past. The novelty effect of something new where the company can charge high prices may be over. You can only make so many derivatives of the same product before people start to move on. There has to be a completely new product to capture the imagination to maintain relevance, otherwise the price of derivatives will just keep on falling as similar devices would be mass produced by others at even lower prices.

 

[johnny333]

I am not writing it off. I am saying its heyday may be past. The novelty effect of something new where the company can charge high prices may be over. You can only make so many derivatives of the same product before people start to move on. There has to be a completely new product to capture the imagination to maintain relevance, otherwise the price of derivatives will just keep on falling as similar devices would be mass produced by others at even lower prices.

The only other company having success in the phone market is Samsung & they are just making cheaper versions of the iPhone.

There will always be people willing to pay a premium for a better quality & user experience. This is the market that Apple is in. Apple is the only company able to design the software & hardware. This integration allows them to squeeze more performance from a phone & provide faster updates.

Add that to the iTune store to improve the "user experience". Many developers support the iPhone because it brings the $$. A smartphone is useless without the apps. That's why some say that the real threat to Apple can only come from a company like Amazon

 

[watchman8]

wanna bet, apple will no longer be great within the next 10 years...?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/05/us-apple-shares-idUSBRE8B40VK20121205

I give it 4 to 5 years. Estimate to lose 20 - 25% of users per year.

 

[watchman8]

The only other company having success in the phone market is Samsung & they are just making cheaper versions of the iPhone.

There will always be people willing to pay a premium for a better quality & user experience. This is the market that Apple is in. Apple is the only company able to design the software & hardware. This integration allows them to squeeze more performance from a phone & provide faster updates.

Add that to the iTune store to improve the "user experience". Many developers support the iPhone because it brings the $$. A smartphone is useless without the apps. That's why some say that the real threat to Apple can only come from a company like Amazon

Take a closer look at blackberry 10. Think this company will eat apple for lunch from next year.

 

[blackmondy]

When cult leader dies, the cult will dissolve eventually.

Anyone noticed the iPad-mini did not create any great hoo-hah anywhere ?

 

[ray_of_hope]

When cult leader dies, the cult will dissolve eventually.

Anyone noticed the iPad-mini did not create any great hoo-hah anywhere ?

Yes, this happens when someone is synonymous with an organisation.
If Jobs had a son in the biz who was heir apparent then the lustre attached to the biz and the name might still be as strong as ever.

 

[mollusk]

who knows apple will produce car next...iCar or iLorry..iTaxi