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Singapore is going to buy latest F-35 stealth fighter planes

i support sg to buy those stealth planes.

together with our subs we can conduct covert ops against terrorist base on our crazy islamic brothers.
 
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what about desert storm 1?
what did you call the 1 month air bombardment that won the war?

Wrong again ... They won the battle to evict Saddam from Kuwait City, not the war. That's why there is a Desert Storm II.

Bush senior was smart! He withdrew his force to prevent them from being entrenched in localized conflicts which Bush junior failed miserably.

Read book co-authored by Bush Snr and Brent Scowcroft (National Security Adviser at the time of conflict) "A World Transformed".
Also read comment from Dick Cheney (Secretary of Defense at the time of conflict) on the outcome of the war below:-

"I would guess if we had gone in there, we would still have forces in Baghdad today. We'd be running the country. We would not have
been able to get everybody out and bring everybody home. And the final point that I think needs to be made is this question of casualties.
I don't think you could have done all of that without significant additional U.S. casualties, and while everybody was tremendously impressed
with the low cost of the (1991) conflict, for the 146 Americans who were killed in action and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war. And the
question in my mind is, how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is, not that damned many. So,
I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the President made the decision that we'd achieved
our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq." — Dick Cheney
 
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i support sg to buy those stealth planes.

together with our subs we can conduct covert ops against terrorist base in our crazy islamic brothers.

Lol .. wonder how our subs and stealth fighters will get into their jungles! Even if our friendly neighbors will to
let us walkover with our hardware. Wonder how our 5 millions sinkies is going to hold and lock them down and
for how long. What would be the human and economic cost?

Any way, I certainly hope not ... 'cause I still got a few good years of reservist liability. Also my brother is still going
through his national obligation.

Better spend the money making more lokangs like Punggol Waterway and fishing pond like Bishan/AMK parks ...:D

Oh ... and not forgetting to buy more wheelchairs for loan at Sembawang GRC!
 
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the jsf is a next too useless plane,,its performance cannot out beat the high end russian planes,,and considering how long its been delayed,,by the time it gets off the ground,,it will already be obsolete,,but the USA is concentrating on drones,,so the JSF is already obsolete
 
Wonder how our 5 millions sinkies is going to hold and lock them down and
for how long. What would be the human and economic cost?...


Don't forget that FT aren't liable for NS. So I wonder just how many NS men the Sporean gov't can activate out of a population of 2+ million?

I can imagine alot of unhappy taxi drivers & security guards being mobilised:o
 
Yes. Canada should use any money she can find to help patch up the potholes in their city streets. So far, the only time the streets are level is during winter when the snow fills up the potholes and later melts and refreezes to ice.

Cheers!

CP will kiss USA ass as usual, and spending will ballon, the cost of each F35 is roughly around 150 million.

It depends, not surprisingly, on how you count it. Estimating the cost of a single F-35, a stealthy multirole fighter, is not as simple as dividing the contract amount by the number of aircraft being bought. "[T]hat doesn't mean the cost of each jet is at least $156 million, which is the mean," aerospace reporter Steve Trimble writes in Flight International's DEW Line blog. "That number also includes production costs not associated with the flyaway price of the aircraft, such as extra tooling."
 
us isnt going to protect sg if we dont pay the kopi money..
be glad that we are getting the better planes.
Taiwan is paying more but getting older model... :)

Yes it's protection money & I wonder why the PAP is paying it:confused:

Even if we decide to follow NZ & cut our defence spending, the US will still defend Spore. Not out of the goodness of their heart but because Spore is a strategic location in this region. So die, die they can never ignore Spore.


Which makes me suspect that this purchase is more economic than strategic. I wonder who will benefit$$$ from buying all this redundant hardware:confused:
 
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Buy so expensive hardware for fuck? Got good fighter pilot then say. Yeah, don't forget, all these comes from your hard earn money. Proud boh?
 
They still have lot of problem with the F35 and the cost has ballon.


http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/35-fi...lpractice-pentagon-official/story?id=15530008

The man now in charge of buying weapons for the U.S. military said that the stealth F-35 Joint Strike Fighter -- one of the most expensive defense programs in U.S. history at three quarters of $1 trillion -- was put in production so prematurely the error amounted to "acquisition malpractice."

"I can spend quite a few minutes on the F-35, but I don't want to," Frank Kendall, the Pentagon's Acting Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology and Logistics, said Monday. "Putting the F-35 into production years before the first test flight was acquisition malpractice. It should not have been done, OK? But we did it, OK?"

Kendall, who was speaking at an event hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said that the early production decision was due to "optimistic predictions" based on design tools, simulations and modeling. But he said the design tools weren't perfect, the models weren't precise enough and now the military has found problems in all three variants of the F-35.

"Now we're paying the price for being wrong about that," he said. Kendall was not with the Defense Department's acquisitions office when the F-35 deal was inked with defense contracting giant Lockheed Martin in 2001.

While the F-35's counterpart, the beleaguered F-22 stealth fighter, has a higher price tag per plane, the F-35 is one of the Pentagon's biggest ever acquisition programs at an estimated $379.4 billion for over 2,400 jets. Over the next half-century, the Pentagon plans to spend up to $1 trillion in operating costs for the planes. A new report from the Government Accountability Office says every hour of flight in the jets costs nearly $30,000.

When planning the F-35 program, the Pentagon's acquisitions department took a "concurrent" strategy with the F-35 production, meaning the government, along with Lockheed Martin, planned to test the planes as production was ongoing, fixing problems on the assembly line as they're found and getting more planes in the air faster. Production on the F-35 began in 2003, three years before the first official test flight was completed.

The problem, a Department of Defense official told ABC News, is that sometimes critical issues with the jets were found after several of the planes had already been delivered to their military customers. The Pentagon already has nine non-test production jets in its hangers, but the first ever F-35 night flight test was completed just last month.

In fact, the planes are only 20 percent through testing and aren't expected to complete it until 2016, the official said.

Kendall called the errant strategy an "extreme example" of the Pentagon's tendency to put a program into production too early.

Still, both the Defense official and Kendall said the Pentagon remains committed to the F-35 program and that it has been making progress. The F-35 team recently celebrated the program exceeding flight test goals for 2011, according to Lockheed Martin.

"It is the future of tactical air for the Department of Defense for all three services it supports," Kendall said.
 
the only thing amazing abt this aircraft thus far is its price tag
 
The plane is mired in escalating production cost and with the US government cutting the number of planes they are buying, it means the cost will go even higher. How stupid can the SAF be?
 
The plane is mired in escalating production cost and with the US government cutting the number of planes they are buying, it means the cost will go even higher. How stupid can the SAF be?


Correction.
How stupid can the Admiral of Dragon Boat be ?
:D
 
us isnt going to protect sg if we dont pay the kopi money..
be glad that we are getting the better planes.
Taiwan is paying more but getting older model... :)

The Straits of Malacca is a choke point for this region. It is important to the americans for the free flow of goods in this region.

The americans might not care about the PAP but they will want a pro-american gov't in Spore. If Spore is threaten by a muslim state, do you really think the americans can afford to sit on the sidelines. :confused:
 
That's not the protection money to CCP. The Chinese developers are merely using their overseas projects to ship money out of china.

When CCP decide to ask for real protection money, it will be much much more.



It is also a ingenious way for China to strip a country of its resources. For example, China identifies an area in an African, or Indochina country, then donates $2b to build a dam, using Chinese contractors, manpower and equipment. This way, the $2b goes back into Chinese hands.

To build the dam, a vast swathe of land will be cleared and evacuated,along with its valuable woods such a sandalwood, teak and rosewood worth billions and billions of of dollars.

All in the name of charity.
 
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............................................................ It is important to the americans for the free flow of goods in this region.

The americans might not care about the PAP but they will want a pro-american gov't in Spore. If Spore is threaten by a muslim state, do you really think the americans can afford to sit on the sidelines. :confused:

Right on! Just take a look at the investment in oil refineries in Sg. No way would the yanks want these to fall into "enemy" hands.

Cheers!
 
not a pilot or fighter plane expert. thought nowadays missile will seek out the targets once u acquired it on the planes radar? they still doing dog fights?
 
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Right on! Just take a look at the investment in oil refineries in Sg. No way would the yanks want these to fall into "enemy" hands.

Cheers!

uncle sam will definitely defend her naval depot in changi with overwhelming force, which basically means she will ensure sg and her pro-american regime are safe and secure. tough to secure an important base for re-supply, shore leave and waste disposal if the local regime and population are hostile. moreover, nuclear vessels dock there. :p
 
Don't forget that FT aren't liable for NS. So I wonder just how many NS men the Sporean gov't can activate out of a population of 2+ million?

I can imagine alot of unhappy taxi drivers & security guards being mobilised:o

Go watch Independence Day movie. Even old drunkard can operate F18. It's that user friendly, like iPhone. :*:
 
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