MSG: The REAL siLent kiLLer ?..

[roadrunner]

Happened to find this botak mynah in my outdoors' aLbum, did you mean this ?:

Yes, the sub-species Singapore Bald Mynah only started appearing in our neighbourhoods from the 1970s onwards, often to be found picking up scraps & fights at hawker centres, some have even picked up the local language, replacing their sharp loud bird calling with even louder, higher pitch shrills in Hokkien which now includes the use of profanities & swearings.

 

[hairylee]

I think the Japs consumed a lot of Ajinomoto and it is rare to see a botak Jap.

 

[Fishypie]

Yes, the sub-species Singapore Bald Mynah only started appearing in our neighbourhoods from the 1970s onwards, often to be found picking up scraps & fights at hawker centres, some have even picked up the local language, replacing their sharp loud bird calling with even louder, higher pitch shrills in Hokkien which now includes the use of profanities & swearings.

Bro, i used to keep mynahs as pets before; for aLL i understand, those brown/botak mynahs can't be tamed or
domesticated, onLy the bLack ones can..used to train a bLack mynah named fruity,she was so smart that can go jogging with me..

 

[Agoraphobic]

@ bro Agoraphobic:..but too bad that each time we are out taking a bite, chances that MSG's are aLready been infused.That have probabLy become a worLdwide cuLture & acceptance..

Yes, it is almost impossible to avoid msg once we eat out. There could be some kind of conspiracy between the food business and government health departments. From the sources of health hazards we're able to obtain over the internet, it seems pretty obvious that govt's around the world should be warning the public about its dangers, if not proposing their congress and parliament to ban MSG, but they are choosing not to. And it is not just Asian eateries, it is global.

Cheers!

 

[kopiuncle]

yes,msg is a health hazard. it should be banned!

i had a good look at my favourite bakkutteh stall, there are cans and cans of msg there! no wonder i always feel neck pain, body pain and dry throat after my favourite meal. after each chinese wedding dinner, i always feel sick!...i think msg is the culprit!

 

[roadrunner]

Bro, i used to keep mynahs as pets before; for aLL i understand, those brown/botak mynahs can't be tamed or
domesticated, onLy the bLack ones can..used to train a bLack mynah named fruity,she was so smart that can go jogging with me..

I had a black (Malayan/Javan mynah) & a slightly larger brown (Common or Indian mynah), both reared from young fledglings abandoned. I agree with you, the brown common/Indian mynah was more kuai lan, always got attitude & didn't want to learn, even when i fed it chilli padi it was still kuai lan whereas the black Javan mynah was a better bird to train, mine could say Hello & Thank you & was confident enough to stay close to me when out of the cage. But occasionally both of them would escape but they would always come flying back & calling like little chicks even when they're fully grown becos they were hungry. Put your hand out for them to land but they always prefered to land on your head right? until my uncle told me to put my hand higher than your head & they'll land there, they always go for the highest part of your body to land. Those kampung days were great, these days kids where got experience these kind of fun & games.

 

[Einfield]

Not just MSG, anything that is processed is bad, but in this modern day, almost everything is processed.
Just do a search on those chemicals used in processed food, some of it are also use in industrial, nasty stuff.

When someone die of cancer at a young age, it is written in the report that the cause of death is Cancer

It is not, Cancer is the effect, something cause the cancer and is unknown, no researcher/ Dr / Health dept don't give a shit anyway, the only thing that is of concern is GDP.

yes,msg is a health hazard. it should be banned!

i had a good look at my favourite bakkutteh stall, there are cans and cans of msg there! no wonder i always feel neck pain, body pain and dry throat after my favourite meal. after each chinese wedding dinner, i always feel sick!...i think msg is the culprit!

 

[loneshark]

My mouth feels numb if I take something that is loaded with MSG.
My personal trick is to eat orange or drink orange juice. It neutralises the effect, at least in the mouth.
Not sure what is the science behind it, but I wonder if that is why old Chinese restaurants serve orange slices as deserts?

 

[Conqueror]

Balding Is A Real Problem Nowadays

Happened to find this botak mynah in my outdoors' aLbum, did you mean this ?:

Yes, balding is a real problem for younger people like us nowadays. I had already seen a schoolmate in JC who sported white hair in his teen ! And I had also seen a dude balding at the top of his scalp who is still in his early or mid 20s.

I have not seen this problem yet. I hope the scalp will hold the line long enough till I'm ... just hope it won't happen.

 

[banglat]

Re: Balding Is A Real Problem Nowadays

Yes, balding is a real problem for younger people like us nowadays. I had already seen a schoolmate in JC who sported white hair in his teen ! And I had also seen a dude balding at the top of his scalp who is still in his early or mid 20s.

I have not seen this problem yet. I hope the scalp will hold the line long enough till I'm ... just hope it won't happen.

Yes I am balding too and I'm not that old.What to do?

 

[watchman8]

I think the Japs consumed a lot of Ajinomoto and it is rare to see a botak Jap.

haha. Yes, a lot of half-wit science on the internet, out to scare people to buy super expensive "organic food".

MSG is naturally ocurring, just that food chemists have found ways to manufacture MSG on industrial scale.

I remember reading somewhere that if you fry vegetable with meat, you will get MSG in the end product. That's why it taste better to fry vege with meat, as compared to vege alone.

Though I don't like too much MSG in food, as it makes me very thirsty. The same effect as eating too much salt.

 

[roadrunner]

haha. Yes, a lot of half-wit science on the internet, out to scare people to buy super expensive "organic food".

If you live in countries where they mass produce food with lots of chems. you would think twice! I've seen pesticides affecting people & lifestock, the one that was big in the 50s & 60s was DDT & they had to ban it becos it had a chain reaction & affected the food chain. Organic & free range foods are more EX becos they take the natural approach so there's more overheads when you grow & produce them as well as more time taken. These days large supermarkets are beginning to own food producers or have more control over them & overheads & time of organic foods are a problem for them so they have to pass on the costs.

Maybe in SG you don't get to see how food are produced so you might not have a better understanding of it. In my younger days when you go to Malaysia, you'll see vegetable farmers feeding & fertilising the vegs & soil with a slurry made from nightsoil & water. That's your shit & pee from the buckets the nightsoil man comes to collect from your house around 6am. The vegs were huge & when it went to market they must throw the outer leaves away & wash them, you might remember your mother or grandmother when they buy veg from wet market, they always fling the veg first to get rid of the excess water before the uncle weighs it & tells you how much it is. Even when you go home you always wash them before cooking, so now you know why!

MSG is naturally ocurring, just that food chemists have found ways to manufacture MSG on industrial scale. I remember reading somewhere that if you fry vegetable with meat, you will get MSG in the end product. That's why it taste better to fry vege with meat, as compared to vege alone.

I've no problem with natural occuring MSG from cooking or making your own stock but when you start to use MSG like ajinomoto, how do you know if 1tsp or 1tbsp is the same as 1 person's serving of meat & veg stir fry like you said above? I think it's this problem & the convenience of it that unscrupulous cooks just throw in lots of it becos they know it'll make the food taste very nice but remember.. what you can't see is what you don't know until later on, then it's too late!

Back to why there's no botak Japs, the Japs are very health conscience, they pay a lot of attention to what they eat & i think they moderate the amount of MSG in their diet better than anyone else even though artificial MSG like Ajinomoto was invented by them. There's a Bro who posts here & lives or had lived in Japan, maybe you can ask him. The Japs have some of the longest living people in the world, they eat a lot of fresh produce & fish, i don't think it's MSG that's making them live longer unless it's preserving their insides, machiam self embalming from the insides.. that would be very worrying though

 

[watchman8]

If you live in countries where they mass produce food with lots of chems. you would think twice! I've seen pesticides affecting people & lifestock, the one that was big in the 50s & 60s was DDT & they had to ban it becos it had a chain reaction & affected the food chain. Organic & free range foods are more EX becos they take the natural approach so there's more overheads when you grow & produce them as well as more time taken.

you should wake up and ask more questions. By organic farming, what exactly is happening at the farm? Do you know most kampong chickens are actually not free range and eat commercially grown feeds? Or so-called massages for japan cows are just marketing stunts?

So many fake claims out there, all designed to bullshit and sell to the masses expensive and useless stuff and services. Anything with the words "traditional", "organic", "homemade" etc. are just keywords to trick feeble minds into thinking that they are buying superior products.

The commies chinese, surprisingly are experts in this field. Just look at their claims on simple green tea, basically saying that the tea leaves are as good as god's pills. Not to mention many of the dubious TCM stuff.

 

[kopiuncle]

after reading all the posts here, i wonder whether i can really trust what i eat

even simple salad is not safe too...the pesticide and the insecticide....even our grapes, fruits and cherries all covered by pesticides..our greens too...and even our fresh seafood from the market all covered and preserved "fresh" with chemicals...sodium benzoate number one culprit. even our cooked food with added msg and others....how to eat healthily

 

[watchman8]

after reading all the posts here, i wonder whether i can really trust what i eat

even simple salad is not safe too...the pesticide and the insecticide....even our grapes, fruits and cherries all covered by pesticides..our greens too...and even our fresh seafood from the market all covered and preserved "fresh" with chemicals...sodium benzoate number one culprit. even our cooked food with added msg and others....how to eat healthily

just wash your vege and fruits before eating.

I always laugh at all those scaremongerers, do they realise that human population average lifespan actually increases over the same period that GM and fertilizers were introduced into the food chain? People are living longer because of better medical and hygiene. Nobody knows if people can live longer if GM and fertilizers are totally removed, though it can be certain that many people will starve to death without these to keep crops yield up.

Anyway, with longer human lifespan, the chances of more people dying from cancer will inevitably increase, as aging brings about genetic mutation that leads to cancer. Last time more people die at younger age from viruses, bacteria, war, hunger etc. Perhaps these ancestors would have suffered from cancer too if they did not die at young age.

 

[kopiuncle]

Brilliant observation Watchman8. Live longer...yes all the degenerative conditions will appear.

Wow! I saw the Taiwanese Mango - it was huge! Everything seems to be huge - with GM and fertilizers.Even the simple grapes look like apples!!! The tomatoes, the cucumbers and even the simple "chye sim" and even the simple gauvas are all so monstrous!!! Yes, we can feed more people and people do survive longer with " better " nutrition and more food...and with longer survival comes all the degenerative conditions: some weird mutations occur along the way.

my philosophy: live life fully and happily

 

[valiant20]

An "MSG Presence" label should be implemented..

Not liking MSG-laden food. Plus the "No-Added MSG Label" is deceptive!

 

[watchman8]

Brilliant observation Watchman8. Live longer...yes all the degenerative conditions will appear.

Wow! I saw the Taiwanese Mango - it was huge! Everything seems to be huge - with GM and fertilizers.Even the simple grapes look like apples!!! The tomatoes, the cucumbers and even the simple "chye sim" and even the simple gauvas are all so monstrous!!! Yes, we can feed more people and people do survive longer with " better " nutrition and more food...and with longer survival comes all the degenerative conditions: some weird mutations occur along the way.

my philosophy: live life fully and happily

The entire ruckles against GM is really overblown. If people only ask a bit more questions instead of blindly listening to scaremongerers. Plants have been evolving and mutating since day 1, so why is GM food so bad?

Too many people are overwhelmed with info and stop thinking critically.

 

[Clone]

I think the Japs consumed a lot of Ajinomoto and it is rare to see a botak Jap.

Is that true?

I wonder what are the causes that make cancer a common thing today. Longer lifespan? Like what watchman8 said?

 

[kopiuncle]

Is that true?

I wonder what are the causes that make cancer a common thing today. Longer lifespan? Like what watchman8 said?

good question. but difficult answers. more cancer cases? more people living to old age? early detection? more medical facilities ? people are more knowledgeable? more carcinogens exposure? lower body immunity? more cell mutation ? more stress? modern life-style ? so many variable factors? genetic predisposition ?....big big question why more cancers???

early detection i think is one of the factors? but again, some early detection cases also die within months despite aggressive therapy. one friend of mine died within three months upon first diagnosis. the other died of cancer after 6 months despite very aggressive therapy.

so cancer is still the modern scourge...no solution in sight.:(