FAP's Strategy for GE2016: 3 Corner Fights

[Narong Wongwan]

Yes, vote out as many pap mps/candidates first, sort out the opposition mps later.
If they behave as yayapayaya as their pap predecessors, let it be known to them that they will be out in no time too.
And if the opposition (whichever party) happens to form the government and behave like the current one, I'll be happy to be a pappy.

When PAP is voted out......i can bet you they will become a good opposition.....keeping the govt in check

 

[tanwahp]

WP and SDP are the 2 Oppo parties that can hurt PAP in a GE..

The rest of the Oppo parties like SPP, PKMS, RP can go fly kite.. I got no confidence in these Oppos..

Come 2016, I'm sure SDP and WP will reach an agreement that will turn out to be a win win situation for both parties..

Lets not get paranoid.. There may not be a 3 corner fight in 2016 after all..

Let SDP contest the Western part.. WP to contest the Eastern side of Spore..

Poor NSP is left out.

 

[jw5]

When PAP is voted out......i can bet you they will become a good opposition.....keeping the govt in check

I think they will too, they will be itching to get back..............................
The more interesting question is whether the opposition will work for the people to make their lives better, when they are in power.
Hope I will get to see that in my lifetime, hahaha...................................

 

[ray_of_hope]

Poor NSP is left out.

I suggest Tan Jee Say join Nicole Seah and stand in Marine Parade GRC. After all that is his former boss' GRC and it is a question mark as to whether he will be fielded by pap again.

 

[zeddy]

the most important task......vote out the PAP then we sort out the opposition......whether the opposition is deemed 'useless' or whatever is still better than the pappies now.......

Due to my hatred for the Pappy Scums, you can even put a 2 yr old chimp, and I'll still give my vote for that cute chimp over a PAP scum.. I'll even vote for people like Zeng Guoyan anytime over a PAP candidate..

Thats what I did for the past 3 GEs.. All of my votes have gone to funny parties like SDA (01 and 06 GE) and Kapitan GMS's NSP in 2011..

But the problem is there would always be some half hearted so called Oppo supporters who wants a credible Oppo in their ward to match the PAP's line up.. I have even heard these people said, '' If the Opposition party contesting in my ward is no good, then I'll give my vote to the PAP..''

These fence sitters must change their old mindset.. Only then will we see more Oppos into Parliament.. Even GMS stands a good chance to walk into Parliament in 2016 if these fence sitters go with the flow and be on the side of the 40%..

 

[zeddy]

Poor NSP is left out.

Ok lah.. Can put them on the same level as WP, and SDP.. Don't say I bias hor.. I voted for NSP last year..

 

[winners]

When PAP is voted out......

With the continued unwavering support from those elderly (who don't want to rock the boat) and influx of new citizens, I can't imagine the PAPies will be voted out until a few more elections, if it can really materialize.

Furthermore, with CSJ out of bankruptcy, it's true that the PAPies are following the setup like the recent PE and is adamant in splitting the opposition votes in order to win for themselves again.

Anyway, most Sinkies still love to be screwed. Just look at those support in this forum will give you an indication.

 

[zeddy]

Agree with this. If PAP thinks Opp parties are stupid enough to kill each other or trip each up, they just have to learn the hard way.

By 2016, the Old Man will not be around.. More 1st time young voters who are Internet savvy.. With the Internet as their main source of information, many of them will learn more about the evils of the PAP..

These youngsters who are now in their late teens are our hope for 2016..

I believe there's still hope for this Country..

 

[TracyTan866]

I suggest Tan Jee Say join Nicole Seah and stand in Marine Parade GRC. After all that is his former boss' GRC and it is a question mark as to whether he will be fielded by pap again.

GCT is not likely to contest at the next GE. Marine parade is likely to fall to the Opposition at the next GE

 

[blur sotong]

With the continued unwavering support from those elderly (who don't want to rock the boat) and influx of new citizens ...

Just look at those support in this forum will give you an indication.

What make you think that the new citizen will vote for the 超级白 after they found out that they suddenly became part of the 3rd class residents after the elite and still unconverted FT?

What makes you think that majority of those supporting the 超级白 in this forum are not part of the 超级白's internet brigade?

 

[winners]

What makes you think that majority of those supporting the 超级白 in this forum are not part of the 超级白's internet brigade?

You have mistaken. I don't mean majority, but the ferocious patriotism in their posts. These forumers are only fit to be in North Korea. That's the best country for them to be in.

 

[methink]

The issue is whether even Dr Chee agrees with you.

But here you are trying to fit SDP/CSJ into the miltant mould. I am not sure why, but you are entitled to your view.

Bro tanWP, why change the topic? Whether Dr Chee agrees with me or not is not the issue. The topic is who is closer to be identified as a firebrand? Definitely not the hidebrand of the WP... who can only talk, play hide and seek, but really no fire.

Ok ready to move on to the next topic?

 

[tanwahp]

Bro tanWP, why change the topic? Whether Dr Chee agrees with me or not is not the issue. The topic is who is closer to be identified as a firebrand? Definitely not the hidebrand of the WP... who can only talk, play hide and seek, but really no fire.

Ok ready to move on to the next topic?

Bro you are throwing a red herring here. Dr Chee agreeing is only one line in my long post. I have said several things that you have yet to address and I shall recap.

Is it not true that SDP is rather quick to jump in correcting perception that they don't just "fight for rights" but also bread and butter, like WP and the rest does? Is it not true that SDP and its supporters blame PAP and the media for demonizing them and painting them as more confrontational? Is it not true that they avoided defamatory statements over the last few years? Is it not true that they have stopped any activity that will land themselves in prison for the last few years? Is it not true that Chee is going to pay the Lees and Goh, something he did not want to do earlier? Is it not true that he wants to contest elections he once said will not change anything? Did he not invite a PAP member to their forum and invited several PAP ministers to their forum, something which done by WP would have been a sore point for SDP supporters like you?

Even if the point was about Chee (dis)agreeing with you, that is a very important point. The topic was about how SDP and WP stand compared, and I am still sticking to it. If Chee does not agree that there is a difference between him and WP leaders, why would you unless you don't understand him? I would be surprised that you are such a fan of his but don't really care if he agrees with the way you are trying to portray him.

 

[tanwahp]

I suggest Tan Jee Say join Nicole Seah and stand in Marine Parade GRC. After all that is his former boss' GRC and it is a question mark as to whether he will be fielded by pap again.

There is a reason why the 2 new generation honchos of the PAP, Chan Chun Sing and Tan Chuan Jin, are being put in Tanjong Pagar and Marine Parade respectively. It would be a lost of face to dissolve these GRCs or lose them. Tin Pei Ling is also reversing her image, while the fervour over Nicole Seah is cooling off. Honestly, not easy to win.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

I feel that you have missed the points totally.

Things aren't that black and white, nor yes or no. It is just a matter of degree.

SDP in relative terms, definitely more vocal and firebrand than WP.

WP ideology? Never heard of it since I left. SDP's ideology? Though simple but definitely much defined than WP.

WP DID embroil in lawsuit before, I have to remind you. The whole of WP CEC was sued by the PAP Indian MPs back in the late 90s that triggered the resignation of JBJ. The case against the other CEC members was dragged on but apparently was dropped when it expired, though JBJ was made bankrupted again along with TLH's case.

Goh Meng Seng

Bro, has the SDP spoken on issues? Yes. Has the WP spoken on issues? Yes.

Is WP firebrand? No. Is SDP firebrand now? No.

Did WP and SDP both use the net? Yes, at varying platforms.

Did WP have hits and misses? Yes. Did SDP have? Yes. Who's perfect?

Are people clear about WP's ideologies? Not all? The SDP? About the same, if not worse.

Has the WP gotten embroiled in lawsuits and legal cases? No. Has the SDP done so? No, not in the last long 3 years.

It is up to you decide and insist that people swallow certain imaginary "differences" that are cooked up to "prove" that WP was actually the "worst" opposition to send to parliament. These same arguments were heard in the last 11 years since JBJ left the party, but WP continued to grow because people know these differences are cooked up.

 

[tanwahp]

Things aren't that black and white, nor yes or no. It is just a matter of degree.

I agree. Since it is grey, you and methink ought not to take extreme polar positions when it comes to comparing WP and SDP.

 

[methink]

I agree. Since it is grey, you and methink ought not to take extreme polar positions when it comes to comparing WP and SDP.

Bro tanWP, if you are trying to paint the SDP and the WP as being the same in opposition politics, then you cant be more wrong.

So your position is: there is not much difference between the two? To me, one is a firebrand. The other? A real coward.

 

[tanwahp]

Bro tanWP, if you are trying to paint the SDP and the WP as being the same in opposition politics, then you cant be more wrong.

So your position is: there is not much difference between the two? To me, one is a firebrand. The other? A real coward.

Yes, my position is not much difference between the two. You are entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine.

 

[Fook Seng]

WP ideology? Never heard of it since I left.

What ideology did you bring to WP when you were there?

 

[Huat-Ah]

Between SDP and WP, I will vote for SDP anytime. WP is a waste of time, so boring in the parliament.

Having you in Sammyboy...Not only boring but also waste of space and bandwidth !