20 Ideas for the PAP govt to implement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From sgordinary.blogspot.com

In response to the govt call for ideas, here are 20 ideas. These are many ideas Singaporeans want to have implemented over time but the PAP due to its extreme right wing ideology has refused to implement any of them. But will the PAP be able to change? Come show us that it can overcome its own ideological barriers otherwise this whole national conversation will be just a national farce.

1. Get rid of ISA and ISD....Malaysia already done so. Replace the broad powers with anti-gang and anti-terrorist act. No democratic developed country under various security threats has ISA because it can be abused and causes fear among the populace.

2. Reduce defense spending to proper level. Singapore's defense spending to too high compared with neighboring countries. Various countries spend different amounts on defense ranging from zero to 6% of GDP. Singapore's defense is among the highest and very high relative to its neighbors. Experts estimate that the spending substantially lower is sufficient to protect Singapore. We have to make a proper trade-off between defense and the social needs of our citizens especially the elderly who have insufficient to retire and the sick who shoulder high cost of medical care.

3, Get rid of GRCs. This system has skewed the results of elections 40% vote against the PAP but is represented by 7% in the parliament. This system is worsen the problem of FPP (first past the post) election system vs an proportional representation system. A country can be strong and cohesive under proportional representation system because everyone's interest in properly represented such as in Israel. Skewing the representation in parliament is not inclusive.

4. Get rid of votes for upgrading priority scheme. It is undemocratic pork barrel politics.

5. Hard limit the number of foreigners now!!! Singaporeans already feel we have too many but businesses will always clamor for more. None of our competitors need to resort to the level of foreign influx to compete so why should we? It has gone well past the point that is good for ordinary Singaporeans.

6. Give more in scholarships to Singaporeans than to foreigners.

7. Implement minimum wage. Malaysia has done it so has Hong Kong. Hong Kong's study shows that while cost has risen for some businesses, this has been beneficial for workers and as a whole Hong Kongers welcome minimum wage. The PAP cannot be so right wing that it is more capitalistic than Hong Kong that existed in modern history as a colony not a nation.

8. Allow independent unions allow workers to form unions to protect their own rights. The main reason is with the union controlled by a PAP minister, we have undertaken a long journey of unbalanced policies than have undermined our workers especially low wage workers that need the most protection.

9. Adhere to UN Human Rights Declaration. Why is respecting human rights so difficult in Singapore? In the recent National Day speech, our PM claimed that the ungracious anti-FT of a small number of netizens is bad for Singapore's reputation. What about the PAP's human rights record? At the govt level refusing to adhere to UNHCR is bad for Singapore's reputation as the UNHCR establishes only basic protection for us as human beings - civilized developed countries go further than UNHCR.

10. Full transparency and accountability for GIC and Temasek. This is billions of tax payers money who is it so hard to let citizens know what is going on. Large part of it is our CPF money. This is what the citizens want and why are they denied. In many developed countries, the freedom of information act (FOIA) is established to give ordinary citizens full access information so long as it does not compromise national security. Why does the PAP govt want to operate in secrecy? How can there be greater trust when the PAP govt does not want to give citizens full access to information?

11. Implement universal healthcare scheme - preferably single payer system - so that every Singapore is well treated and no need to worry about medical financing. Every developed country now has it why not Singapore? Singaporeans shoulder the heaviest healthcare burden out of their pockets as a % of total expenditure compared with all developed countries.

12. Stop linking HDB price to market. It creates a vicious loop especially when the PAP govt insists on importing people in such large numbers. The upward pressure on public housing is enormous and high housing cost put Singaporeans into heavy debt.

13. Implement unemployment insurance to reduce worries of unemployment.

14. Supplement CPF so that elderly Singaporeans who contributed so much to Singapore can retire properly. The elderly were part of a generation that build Singapore to an economic power house. Many suffer today and do menial jobs because they earned low wages in the past and were unable to save when Singapore was a developing nation to help build Singapore. Seeing so many elderly workers doing menial back breaking work tells us there is a cold-heartedness and harshness that exists in our society yet in his National Day Rally, PM Lee spoke nothing about treating the old better but instead asked us to treat foreigners graciously - his can start by treating our old graciously. His attitude shows he value foreigners more than his own people even those who are now old and have contributed so much to the success of Singapore.

15. Reduce Income gap by reducing GST and increasing corporate and high income earners' tax. The relative share of wages in our GDP is low vs corporate profits - this is a result of pro-business policies pursued by the PAP. It is an fallacy to thing that an easy environment for big business equates to competitiveness. It does not and has not - it has breed constant demand for cheap labor and long term declining productivity.

16. Stop parachuting elites to state own enterprises. It is incestuous and result in conflict of interests. This is a perversion of meritocracy that has to stop. By deliberately allocating so much resources and opportunities to small group is not meritocratic but elitist in nature. It destroys the element of competition which is necessary to keep meritocracy healthy.

17. Stop the low wage, low productivity cycle by cutting employers from source of cheap foreign labor.

18. Revamp the transport system so that there is no compromise between quality of service and profits....get rid of Saw's legacy once and for all.

19. Get rid of all anti-democracy laws such as restoring our rights to protest, assemble and speak. We are now left further and further behind as more countries democratize and liberate its people.

20. Revamp our education system to "test less learn more". Stream less, less pressure, to create all round individuals with heart for our society. The system has it is puts to much emphasis on exams and does not cultivate a love for learning. The intense competition to get into various streams, secondary schools, results in unhealthy negative outcomes.
 
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From sgordinary.blogspot.com

In response to the govt call for ideas, here are 20 ideas. These are many ideas Singaporeans want to have implemented over time but the PAP due to its extreme right wing ideology has refused to implement any of them. But will the PAP be able to change? Come show us that it can overcome its own ideological barriers otherwise this whole national conversation will be just a national farce.

1. Get rid of ISA and ISD....Malaysia already done so. Replace the broad powers with anti-gang and anti-terrorist act. No democratic developed country under various security threats has ISA because it can be abused and causes fear among the populace.

No they didn't, they simply repackaged it and call it something else.

2. Reduce defense spending to proper level. Singapore's defense spending to too high compared with neighboring countries. Various countries spend different amounts on defense ranging from zero to 6% of GDP. Singapore's defense is among the highest and very high relative to its neighbors. Experts estimate that the spending substantially lower is sufficient to protect Singapore. We have to make a proper trade-off between defense and the social needs of our citizens especially the elderly who have insufficient to retire and the sick who shoulder high cost of medical care.
Our defence needs are different from our neighbours. Singapore has no resources to offer the world but stability and this comes from a strong defence. Take away the stability and we have nothing to offer investors, local and foreign.


3, Get rid of GRCs. This system has skewed the results of elections 40% vote against the PAP but is represented by 7% in the parliament. This system is worsen the problem of FPP (first past the post) election system vs an proportional representation system. A country can be strong and cohesive under proportional representation system because everyone's interest in properly represented such as in Israel. Skewing the representation in parliament is not inclusive.
Wrong. If every constituency votes 40% opposition, we will have 100% PAP in parliament.
BTW, do you know the purpose of the GRC system in the first place?
W/o GRC, assholes like Chen Show Mao, Gerald, Pritam and gang would not have made it to parliament at all.


4. Get rid of votes for upgrading priority scheme. It is undemocratic pork barrel politics.
And reward people who vote stupidly? No way.

5. Hard limit the number of foreigners now!!! Singaporeans already feel we have too many but businesses will always clamor for more. None of our competitors need to resort to the level of foreign influx to compete so why should we? It has gone well past the point that is good for ordinary Singaporeans.
The problem is, w/o these foreigners to support us, singkies cannot be hired too.

6. Give more in scholarships to Singaporeans than to foreigners.
Singkies don't want to do post grad studies and the universities need post grads for research. What to do?


7. Implement minimum wage. Malaysia has done it so has Hong Kong. Hong Kong's study shows that while cost has risen for some businesses, this has been beneficial for workers and as a whole Hong Kongers welcome minimum wage. The PAP cannot be so right wing that it is more capitalistic than Hong Kong that existed in modern history as a colony not a nation.
Thats why these economies are so screwed up today. You want infaltion that will eventually hit the poor badly?




8. Allow independent unions allow workers to form unions to protect their own rights. The main reason is with the union controlled by a PAP minister, we have undertaken a long journey of unbalanced policies than have undermined our workers especially low wage workers that need the most protection.
You want strikes and riots in the streets and investors to disapear?

9. Adhere to UN Human Rights Declaration. Why is respecting human rights so difficult in Singapore? In the recent National Day speech, our PM claimed that the ungracious anti-FT of a small number of netizens is bad for Singapore's reputation. What about the PAP's human rights record? At the govt level refusing to adhere to UNHCR is bad for Singapore's reputation as the UNHCR establishes only basic protection for us as human beings - civilized developed countries go further than UNHCR.
We do respect human rights sir. Look at US and Europe today, do they respect human rights?

10. Full transparency and accountability for GIC and Temasek. This is billions of tax payers money who is it so hard to let citizens know what is going on. Large part of it is our CPF money. This is what the citizens want and why are they denied. In many developed countries, the freedom of information act (FOIA) is established to give ordinary citizens full access information so long as it does not compromise national security. Why does the PAP govt want to operate in secrecy? How can there be greater trust when the PAP govt does not want to give citizens full access to information?
They do have accountability and transparency. More so than many companies out there.


11. Implement universal healthcare scheme - preferably single payer system - so that every Singapore is well treated and no need to worry about medical financing. Every developed country now has it why not Singapore? Singaporeans shoulder the heaviest healthcare burden out of their pockets as a % of total expenditure compared with all developed countries.
A single payer system will balloon health care cost liek what is happening in the USA today. Not only that, it stifles competition and even put doctors out of business. Plus it devastated investments by private companies and caused high unemployment. Just look at Euroep and USA today.


12. Stop linking HDB price to market. It creates a vicious loop especially when the PAP govt insists on importing people in such large numbers. The upward pressure on public housing is enormous and high housing cost put Singaporeans into heavy debt.
Without our reserves, where do you get so much public works and welfare to singkies?
Do you know the Thomson line alone costs a whopping 18 billion?


13. Implement unemployment insurance to reduce worries of unemployment.
who pays for it? You? How about trippling your income tax n doubling GST?



14. Supplement CPF so that elderly Singaporeans who contributed so much to Singapore can retire properly. The elderly were part of a generation that build Singapore to an economic power house. Many suffer today and do menial jobs because they earned low wages in the past and were unable to save when Singapore was a developing nation to help build Singapore. Seeing so many elderly workers doing menial back breaking work tells us there is a cold-heartedness and harshness that exists in our society yet in his National Day Rally, PM Lee spoke nothing about treating the old better but instead asked us to treat foreigners graciously - his can start by treating our old graciously. His attitude shows he value foreigners more than his own people even those who are now old and have contributed so much to the success of Singapore.
Govt already doing that sir, all the time.



15. Reduce Income gap by reducing GST and increasing corporate and high income earners' tax. The relative share of wages in our GDP is low vs corporate profits - this is a result of pro-business policies pursued by the PAP. It is an fallacy to thing that an easy environment for big business equates to competitiveness. It does not and has not - it has breed constant demand for cheap labor and long term declining productivity.
Reduce GST and increase income tax to make up?
The better solution is to reduce income tax and increase GST. This will spur investment as income is not taxed and grow the number of jobs for singkies.



16. Stop parachuting elites to state own enterprises. It is incestuous and result in conflict of interests. This is a perversion of meritocracy that has to stop. By deliberately allocating so much resources and opportunities to small group is not meritocratic but elitist in nature. It destroys the element of competition which is necessary to keep meritocracy healthy.
First of all, where is teh conflict of interest you are talking about? Can you please explain yourself?


17. Stop the low wage, low productivity cycle by cutting employers from source of cheap foreign labor.
Our productivity is pretty high sir.
How much more productivity do you want from a storehand or a cleaner? You think singkies will do such jobs?


18. Revamp the transport system so that there is no compromise between quality of service and profits....get rid of Saw's legacy once and for all.
Revamp? Like how may we know?
Saw's legacy prevented hike in train fares in case you are not aware.

19. Get rid of all anti-democracy laws such as restoring our rights to protest, assemble and speak. We are now left further and further behind as more countries democratize and liberate its people.
You do have a right to speak and assemble and to vote as well.


20. Revamp our education system to "test less learn more". Stream less, less pressure, to create all round individuals with heart for our society. The system has it is puts to much emphasis on exams and does not cultivate a love for learning. The intense competition to get into various streams, secondary schools, results in unhealthy negative outcomes.
sure, create dummies who can't read and count like they do in the US with high drop out rates
 
Revamp? Like how may we know?
Saw's legacy prevented hike in train fares in case you are not aware.

Saw will always be remembered for screwing up our beloved MRT system.
 
Saw will always be remembered for screwing up our beloved MRT system.

She would, but we have to take an objective view of the situation. She did developed the retail part of MRT stations and avoided fare hikes. So why talk about getting rid of Saw's legacy?
 
There is only one idea for the PAP: JUST FUCKING RESIGN!!!!!!!!
 
No they didn't, they simply repackaged it and call it something else.
No they did not just repackage 60% of the legislation awarding the govt with draconian powers is removed.

Our defence needs are different from our neighbours. Singapore has no resources to offer the world but stability and this comes from a strong defence. Take away the stability and we have nothing to offer investors, local and foreign.

Our defends needs is less because of a smaller land mass with smaller perimeter borders. The stability that attracts investors does not come from defense which is a final deterrent but our relations with our neighbors. By the time the hot button is pressed and reservists are activate, the investors are long gone. Spending too much on defense can give a false sense on security because is disincentive to seek out more balanced friendlier relationship. My suggestion is to right-size our defense spending to get more optimal overall results.



Wrong. If every constituency votes 40% opposition, we will have 100% PAP in parliament.
BTW, do you know the purpose of the GRC system in the first place?
W/o GRC, assholes like Chen Show Mao, Gerald, Pritam and gang would not have made it to parliament at all.

Based on past elections before GRC, results were more representative and proportionate.



And reward people who vote stupidly? No way.

Pork barrel is what creates stupidity


The problem is, w/o these foreigners to support us, singkies cannot be hired too.
yeah and we don't have any desire to break out of this dependency on foreigners. Why would we be more dependent on them than anywhere else in the world?!


Singkies don't want to do post grad studies and the universities need post grads for research. What to do?

I was talking about the undergrand and poly level.



Thats why these economies are so screwed up today. You want infaltion that will eventually hit the poor badly?
It is screwed up because of high rental and overheating due to over-packing of too many people and too many businesses in a small island...and this has happened due to the cheap labor influx. You must think more holistically...you solve a few problems together not piecemeal.



You want strikes and riots in the streets and investors to disapear?
Every other developed country allow this and it has not cause investors to disappear but the income gap to narrow. Somehow you're saying Singaporeans are more vicious people than pple of other places if given freedom, they will riot and strike, that is the PAP thinking not to trust the poeple and they expect pple to trust them.


We do respect human rights sir. Look at US and Europe today, do they respect human rights?

If we respect human rights, adhering to the basic UNHCR is not a problem...so lets just do it.


They do have accountability and transparency. More so than many companies out there.

I can get the full list of assets of any listed company but can't do the same for these entities that control tax payers money.



A single payer system will balloon health care cost liek what is happening in the USA today. Not only that, it stifles competition and even put doctors out of business. Plus it devastated investments by private companies and caused high unemployment. Just look at Euroep and USA today.

The most expensive healthcare system in the developed world is the US system which is not single payer and depends on free market for "competition" - it pays an average of 300% higher compared with single payer system.



[QUOTE[Without our reserves, where do you get so much public works and welfare to singkies?
Do you know the Thomson line alone costs a whopping 18 billion? [/QUOTE]

So these reserves are build with debts incurred by Singaporeans paying for HDB not the investing whiz at GICs? Reserves which are the highest per capita in the world...sweat and blood of Singaporeans. The Thomson $18B did not come from reserves or surplus because landsales is not treated as surplus and reserves cannot be used unless Tony Tan says so. This 18B comes from the regular budget allocated for transport. Our reserves are just that...reserves sitting with GIC and Temasek.

who pays for it? You? How about trippling your income tax n doubling GST?

Unemployment insurance is insurance...you don't know how insurance get paid? It gets paid by those who want to be insured. Anyway PM Lee claim is "jobs no worry" so the cost of this should be infinitely small but the peace of mind will be invaluable.



Govt already doing that sir, all the time.

Good for them, good for us.




Reduce GST and increase income tax to make up?
The better solution is to reduce income tax and increase GST. This will spur investment as income is not taxed and grow the number of jobs for singkies.

GST is regressive. Cutting corporate and high income taxes beyond a certain point will yield no additional investments build just more idle money sitting in the bank. A more balance taxation scheme generates more overall aggregate demand.


First of all, where is teh conflict of interest you are talking about? Can you please explain yourself?

The conflict of interest when political power to regulate business become closely link to business.



Our productivity is pretty high sir.
How much more productivity do you want from a storehand or a cleaner? You think singkies will do such jobs?
Just reported our IT productivity is fallen now lowest in developed world.
Our productivity growth is worst among developed countries. If being worst is good. You need to get head checked.


[QUOTE[Revamp? Like how may we know?
Saw's legacy prevented hike in train fares in case you are not aware.[/QUOTE]

You got the wrong part of the legacy.


You do have a right to speak and assemble and to vote as well.

If that is so, Singaporeans are very lazy. Nobody has done it. Last I heard was this group outside CPF build, the security squad came faster than anything.

sure, create dummies who can't read and count like they do in the US with high drop out rates

You never heard of Finland. Well IMH is very busy these days, according to recent report PSLE has generated many cases not just students but parents.
 
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No they did not just repackage 60% of the legislation awarding the govt with draconian powers is removed.
Its still there now. Besides, what the Msians do is nothing to do with us. Why don't you ask the Msians to do away with the NEP instead?

Our defends needs is less because of a smaller land mass with smaller perimeter borders. The stability that attracts investors does not come from defense which is a final deterrent but our relations with our neighbors. By the time the hot button is pressed and reservists are activate, the investors are long gone. Spending too much on defense can give a false sense on security because is disincentive to seek out more balanced friendlier relationship. My suggestion is to right-size our defense spending to get more optimal overall results.
It is exactly because we are small that it is more difficult to defend. Thats why we need to spend adequately on defence.





Based on past elections before GRC, results were more representative and proportionate.
And we will end up without minority representation in parliament.




Pork barrel is what creates stupidity
Talk about prok barrels. Thye have lots of pork barrels in the USA.
Chen, pritam are pork.





yeah and we don't have any desire to break out of this dependency on foreigners. Why would we be more dependent on them than anywhere else in the world?!
Because we need them for investments. do you think our casinos, banks and factories can operate w/o them?





I was talking about the undergrand and poly level.
Enough of them around meh?


It is screwed up because of high rental and overheating due to over-packing of too many people and too many businesses in a small island...and this has happened due to the cheap labor influx. You must think more holistically...you solve a few problems together not piecemeal.
High rentals comes from people and businesses with the money to pay. Where do you think these people get the money to pay?




Every other developed country allow this and it has not cause investors to disappear but the income gap to narrow. Somehow you're saying Singaporeans are more vicious people than pple of other places if given freedom, they will riot and strike, that is the PAP thinking not to trust the poeple and they expect pple to trust them.
They do riot and strike and lose investors like in Korea, thats why Korea has high unemployment today. You want that?




If we respect human rights, adhering to the basic UNHCR is not a problem...so lets just do it.
Go tell that to bigots and terrorists. If you can eliminate them from this world, may the govt will consider.





I can get the full list of assets of any listed company but can't do the same for these entities that control tax payers money.
Because its pointless. What for?




The most expensive healthcare system in the developed world is the US system which is not single payer and depends on free market for "competition" - it pays an average of 300% higher compared with single payer system.
They are moving towards a single payer system and that why they cant get out of a recession after more than 4 years. Shame on them.





So these reserves are build with debts incurred by Singaporeans paying for HDB not the investing whiz at GICs? Reserves which are the highest per capita in the world...sweat and blood of Singaporeans. The Thomson $18B did not come from reserves or surplus because landsales is not treated as surplus and reserves cannot be used unless Tony Tan says so. This 18B comes from the regular budget allocated for transport. Our reserves are just that...reserves sitting with GIC and Temasek.
Yes, the budget as well as reserves come from selling public land which makes up the reserves.



Unemployment insurance is insurance...you don't know how insurance get paid? It gets paid by those who want to be insured. Anyway PM Lee claim is "jobs no worry" so the cost of this should be infinitely small but the peace of mind will be invaluable.
Don't you need to pay for insurance too? So who pays for it? You mean an insurance company give out payments w/o collecting premiums?







GST is regressive. Cutting corporate and high income taxes beyond a certain point will yield no additional investments build just more idle money sitting in the bank. A more balance taxation scheme generates more overall aggregate demand.
Not true. The pour get GST rebates more than they pay out. so how can it possibly be regressive?

The conflict of interest when political power to regulate business become closely link to business.
There will be a conflict of interest if companies give donations to political parties like they do in the USA, Japan and Taiwan. The same don't happen in Singapore.


Just reported our IT productivity is fallen now lowest in developed world.
Our productivity growth is worst among developed countries. If being worst is good. You need to get head checked.
Really? Where is this report sir? Show us. If our productivity is so low, why is unemployment so low compared to other countries?




You got the wrong part of the legacy.
It is part of the legacy. You want to wipe it out like what you said? Maybe you need to qualify your earlier statement and not be so personal against Saw.



If that is so, Singaporeans are very lazy. Nobody has done it. Last I heard was this group outside CPF build, the security squad came faster than anything.
Do it legitimately, you will have no problem.



You never heard of Finland. Well IMH is very busy these days, according to recent report PSLE has generated many cases not just students but parents.
You been to USA, they have even more mental problems. They have a lot more jails too with these drop outs.
 
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1. topsage, just ignore the new barking dog in this forum.
2. harmless too!
 
Wrong. If every constituency votes 40% opposition, we will have 100% PAP in parliament.
BTW, do you know the purpose of the GRC system in the first place?
W/o GRC, assholes like Chen Show Mao, Gerald, Pritam and gang would not have made it to parliament at all.

What a stupid reasoning from a PAP asshole like you.. Do you really think asshole clowns like TPL, Lim Swee Say and many others can go to Parliament without the GRC system?
 
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1. topsage, just ignore the new barking dog in this forum.
2. harmless too!

Hi there

Using bold fonts for his one liner replies in other threads and replies in this thread failed to cover his tracks (see my siggy). :D


 
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Hi there

Using bold fonts for his one liner replies in other threads and replies in this thread failed to cover his tracks (see my siggy). :D





hi there


1. hahahaha!
2. good one, bro.
3. crying sheep, running dogs & of course sbf resident bitch exposed!
4. all roll into one familee.
 
21. Abolish the position of "ministar in the prime ministar's office".
 
These are many ideas Singaporeans want to have implemented over time but the PAP due to its extreme right wing ideology has refused to implement any of them.

Ask the author to speak for himself. Fucking communist ideas all of them.
 
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20. Revamp our education system to "test less learn more". Stream less, less pressure, to create all round individuals with heart for our society. The system has it is puts to much emphasis on exams and does not cultivate a love for learning. The intense competition to get into various streams, secondary schools, results in unhealthy negative outcomes.

Ask the author to speak for himself. Fucking communist ideas all of them.

last noted, MOE dished out the Thinking School, Learning Nation in the late 90s, and if me recalled correctly, "Teach Less, Learn More" was one of the programmes implemented. don't know what the teachers teach less of, don't know what the students learn more of.

anyway, cass888, MOE dish out communist ideas, you were saying?
 
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