Chee Soon Juan: Public enemy in Singapore

[Wisely]

Like I said before, to me it was no biggie all things considered in the dirty world of politics.

He need to be more careful. We all know we're in a 1 party state and NUS has plenty of PAP presence. What he did may be all right in a dirty world of politics, but it also reflects his stupidity. He should do things like that in a private school.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Bob you are so caught up with your warped petty personal vendetta and fued that you cannot see beyond the same.

Apart from light entertainment and amusement I don't give a shit about these so called clones etc.

I look at the substance of Dr Chee's writing and his conduct and then draw my own opinions, sometimes positive, sometimes negative sometimes neutral sometimes don't care etc. Samething I would do with any other person topic etc.

Back to Dr Chee, I have observed him since he entered the public scene in the early 90s and to me he may be many things but he is no enemy of Singapore and Singaporeans.

Oh and I have yet to see you come with even a shred of rational coherent compelling substantive logic to support your baseless contention that Dr Chee is indeed a public enemy of Singapore.

and what about the clones who are so supportive of chee? they got blainwashed by him and willing do it for free even falling into the longkang with him?

subjective. those who praise the paps must be paps' engaged ghost writers. this is such a convenient logic. would u believe that maybe 10 chee supporters here is just only from the same clonemaster? means only 1 joker supporting the clown, the other nine r clones of the same source. would that be easier to believe when u apply the same logic?

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Then for eg. what of LKY and LHL using tax payer paid civil servants to write public letters with regards their own personal private lawsuit matters?

Again I say pure gutter politics.

what chee did at NUS can be consider as criminal and he has in a way commited CBT by misuse of funds. But been an ASP(NS) he know the law and he know how to wiggle his way out.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Stupid unwise foolish perhaps, but like what Locke said in his post above this is a grey issue and a common practice. It was just making a mountain out of a molehill.

People should not be fooled by PAPs whiter than white spiel and see things for what they really are. I suggest you go read "Corruption: The peculiarities of Singapore" by Dr Alfred Oehlers for starters. PAPs are just being self-righteous as usual.

He need to be more careful. We all know we're in a 1 party state and NUS has plenty of PAP presence. What he did may be all right in a dirty world of politics, but it also reflects his stupidity. He should do things like that in a private school.

 

[samurai1110]

All that u have said prove just one thing that u are a clone of this despicable fella whom u so vehemently defend in spite of over-whelming evidences to the contrary. I believe u may also be this 'animal' posting under this nick.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Irrational baseless ad homenim attacks. Case closed I should say

 

[kakowi]

If you are referring to Porfiro, call me a clone too because i happen to agree substantially with his posts.

Dr CSJ is probably the greatest threat to the PAP today, though that is saying little. However he is definitely the greatest thorn in the PAP's flesh.

Thus the concerted effort to obstruct him from returning to the GE scene is in line with his potential for advocacy if he is elected.

There are some who engage in verbal masturbation and self-justified orgasms but i feel that we need to take a good look at the opposition scene and ask ourselves to what degree of damage can Dr CSJ do if ever he gets elected. Bring the House down? How? Money and salary may well make him into a conservative or at least tone him into more caution. The opportunity costs would become greater for him if he were to be out of Parliament. Thus it is possible that we will see a more tempered Dr CSJ and that is only to the good of the voters.

After all, how many opposition candidates are there? Of these, how many seek to contribute with the passion that he shows. Not the manner, but the passion. Therefore the opposition needs every one they can get.

 

[samurai1110]

U are not his clone u are the bugger himself!

 

[leetahbar]

Bob you are so caught up with your warped petty personal vendetta and fued that you cannot see beyond the same.

Apart from light entertainment and amusement I don't give a shit about these so called clones etc.

I look at the substance of Dr Chee's writing and his conduct and then draw my own opinions, sometimes positive, sometimes negative sometimes neutral sometimes don't care etc. Samething I would do with any other person topic etc.

Back to Dr Chee, I have observed him since he entered the public scene in the early 90s and to me he may be many things but he is no enemy of Singapore and Singaporeans.

Oh and I have yet to see you come with even a shred of rational coherent compelling substantive logic to support your baseless contention that Dr Chee is indeed a public enemy of Singapore.

he's no state's enemy. he's just the public court jester. otherwise, all his mind schemes and devious plots would have succeeded and none of us would even be posting here.

he who speaketh the loudest on human rights and freedom and etc could be the most tyrannic one who hasn't revealed his true form. he should stay that way. his revelation could spell CHAOS for the country.

 

[samurai1110]

he's no state's enemy. he's just the public court jester. otherwise, all his mind schemes and devious plots would have succeeded and none of us would even be posting here.

he who speaketh the loudest on human rights and freedom and etc could be the most tyrannic one who hasn't revealed his true form. he should stay that way. his revelation could spell CHAOS for the country.

U said it like it should be said!
We are certainly not blinded by his eloquence in delivering 'crab-shits'.

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

The reason why Dr Chee has not succeeded thus far is obvious, local ground conditions do not appear to favour his NVCD approach at this point in time. Saying that the political process is a dynamic one and his approach is but one aspect that plays a part in the same. The opening up of Hong Lim and now political films seems in some way to be related to Dr Chee's approach.

In any event, where is the so called "chaos" in wanting Singapore to become an open liberal democractic society with proper objective independent checks and balances, pluralism and a peaceful civilised voice for all sectors of her society?

You are a bloody hypocrite Bob. You complain and whine about the PAPs and LHL doing nothing about say the CLOB saga. Well you got shafted because S'pore lacks exactly what Dr Chee is trying to push for and yet you ponce around vilifying Dr Chee no end. Sheesh.

Look you do not trust Dr Chee to run the govt don't vote for him simple as that. HOWEVER before we get to that stage, we need a proper open liberal democractic society in order to exercise a real choice of political leaders.

he's no state's enemy. he's just the public court jester. otherwise, all his mind schemes and devious plots would have succeeded and none of us would even be posting here.

he who speaketh the loudest on human rights and freedom and etc could be the most tyrannic one who hasn't revealed his true form. he should stay that way. his revelation could spell CHAOS for the country.

 

[Zeitgeist]

Then for eg. what of LKY and LHL using tax payer paid civil servants to write public letters with regards their own personal private lawsuit matters?

Again I say pure gutter politics.

GUTTER POLITICS is what LKY once said the PAP will not descent into, if my memory serves me right!

 

[samurai1110]

The reason why Dr Chee has not succeeded thus far is obvious, local ground conditions do not appear to favour his NVCD approach at this point in time. Saying that the political process is a dynamic one and his approach is but one aspect that plays a part in the same. The opening up of Hong Lim and now political films seems in some way to be related to Dr Chee's approach.

In any event, where is the so called "chaos" in wanting Singapore to become an open liberal democractic society with proper objective independent checks and balances, pluralism and a peaceful civilised voice for all sectors of her society?

You are a bloody hypocrite Bob. You complain and whine about the PAPs and LHL doing nothing about say the CLOB saga. Well you got shafted because S'pore lacks exactly what Dr Chee is trying to push for and yet you ponce around vilifying Dr Chee no end. Sheesh.

Look you do not trust Dr Chee to run the govt don't vote for him simple as that. HOWEVER before we get to that stage, we need a proper open liberal democractic society in order to exercise a real choice of political leaders.

ANOTHER BARGE-LOAD OF REDUNDANT 'CRAB-SHITS' BY SIBEH LOSO FELLA!

 

[locky2ky]

Bob you are so caught up with your warped petty personal vendetta and fued that you cannot see beyond the same.

Apart from light entertainment and amusement I don't give a shit about these so called clones etc.

I look at the substance of Dr Chee's writing and his conduct and then draw my own opinions, sometimes positive, sometimes negative sometimes neutral sometimes don't care etc. Samething I would do with any other person topic etc.

Back to Dr Chee, I have observed him since he entered the public scene in the early 90s and to me he may be many things but he is no enemy of Singapore and Singaporeans.

Oh and I have yet to see you come with even a shred of rational coherent compelling substantive logic to support your baseless contention that Dr Chee is indeed a public enemy of Singapore.

correct, he is not only unable to see beyond his personal vendetta, his fixation has also clouded his judgment and skewed his reasoning.

 

[cass888]

GUTTER POLITICS is what LKY once said the PAP will not descent into, if my memory serves me right!

Toilet bowl politics is what the MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDHAILER chee soon juan is all about.

 

[samurai1110]

he is not only unable to see beyond his personal vendetta, his fixation has also clouded his judgment and skewed his reasoning.

Ironic! U describe here that 'Chee' traitor exactly.

 

[leetahbar]

porfi is quite a weirdo. when u criticise or comment negatively on chee, it's like u r so entitled to it. when i do, u react rather very extreme.

again, unless u answer this simple YES OR NOT question, ur opinions look quite warped.

HAVE U BEEN APPROACHED BY ANY MEMBER FROM THE F4? mostly the one who used to shout "but i m not interested in politics".

yes or no?

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Well if that is the case, LKY appears to be THE toilet bowl master

Toilet bowl politics is what the MONGREL who bit his masters' hands LOUDHAILER chee soon juan is all about.

 

[Wisely]

porfi is quite a weirdo. when u criticise or comment negatively on chee, it's like u r so entitled to it. when i do, u react rather very extreme.

again, unless u answer this simple YES OR NOT question, ur opinions look quite warped.

HAVE U BEEN APPROACHED BY ANY MEMBER FROM THE F4? mostly the one who used to shout "but i m not interested in politics".

yes or no?

Who the f**k cares about your F4 lah!

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

You are misconceived for the umpteenth time Bob, probably because your warped personal petty vendetta & feud has made you unable to think logically, rationally and with maturity (assuming you could in the first place).

Look did I not say in earlier posts in other threads that you had the right to criticise Dr Chee/SDP or anyone else for that matter? Criticism is NOT the issue here Bob. Where I had and continue to take issue with you is with respect to the fact that you do NOT appear to come with 'clean hands' when you attack and criticise Dr Chee. Your attacks appear to be based on your own warped personal agenda, in brief you are a hypocrite when it comes to your attacks on Dr Chee.

Like I have said before in this forum, I make my views known on any issues that interest me drawing on my own take. Unlike you, I do NOT have any agendas apart from the wish to contribute my POVs, let off steam and chill, oh and I never mix virtual reality with reality.

Now back to Dr Chee, my comments are : sometimes good (particularly on the issues of pluralism, open liberal democracy, proper independent checks and balances, transparency and accountability); sometimes bad (strategy/tactics, certain economic policy issue issues). But at all times I stand by them and am open to criticism, but I shall give as good as I get depending on the circumstances and whether I have the interest. This applies to any other person/issue/topic etc.

Frankly if Singapore had a reasonably fair open and transparent political system with pluralism, I for one would probably not vote for Dr Chee because I find him too 'wet' on the left and idealistic, also appears to lack the ability to run a disciplined political party. However all this is theoretical at present since Singapore does not have such a fair system in place.

Oh and to oblige your warped petty personal vendetta conspiracy mind Bob, the answer to your repetitive question is NO, same as previously stated.

Now how about some reciprocity by obliging me with your side of the story that underpins your personal petty vendetta?

porfi is quite a weirdo. when u criticise or comment negatively on chee, it's like u r so entitled to it. when i do, u react rather very extreme.

again, unless u answer this simple YES OR NOT question, ur opinions look quite warped.

HAVE U BEEN APPROACHED BY ANY MEMBER FROM THE F4? mostly the one who used to shout "but i m not interested in politics".

yes or no?