Get ready to pay more for medical treatment, says Minister Gun

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Want to increase coverage and increase premiums woh. Now that they want to raise the lifetime claims limit, all the hospitals are salivating thinking about how much they can increase their charges to "max out" the patient. Fucking Gun talk like MOH doing everyone a big fat favour. Hospitals are build by taxpayers, doctors and nurses trained in universities build by taxpayers, and still want to charge and charge. I am in favour of increasing coverage, BUT WHY MUST INCREASE PREMUIMS OR ANY OTHER COSTS?


The Ministry of Health (MOH) is proposing enhancing MediShield, the national health insurance scheme, to provide wider coverage for Singaporeans, from the first quarter of 2013.

The last round of adjustment was made in 2008.

With the enhancements, MediShield coverage will be extended to include congenital and neo-natal conditions.

This will be implemented via an auto-cover exercise, which means all newborns of Singaporeans and permanent residents will be covered from birth throughout their lifetime, unless their parents opt out from it.

Talking about these possible enhancements, Health Minister Gan Kim Yong said his ministry will garner the views from various quarters, including from doctors and parents, before making a final decision.

"For congenital and neo-natal conditions to be covered under MediShield, the population will then have to take into account the premiums that will be associated with this additional coverage. So we want to listen to feedback. It is a process of consultation," he said.

MOH said the support of parents is crucial, as a high opt-out rate would reduce the benefit of risk-pooling and result in higher premiums.

The proposed coverage will cost about S$12 per year, or about S$1 per month, and a public consultation will be launched from 18 July to 15 August 15 to gather feedback. Singaporeans may also send their feedback to [email protected].

Under other changes, the Health Ministry will extend MediShield coverage to two groups of policyholders: Those up to 90 years old, from 85 previously; and newly-diagnosed patients who need in-patient psychiatric treatment, with daily claim limit capped at S$100.

In addition, MediShield will also cover short-stay wards in the hospitals' emergency departments, when the changes take effect.

With the proposed enhancements, claims will also be increased. From next year, patients will be able to claim up to S$70,000 for their hospital bills annually, up from the current S$50,000.

The lifetime claims limit will be adjusted from S$200,000 to S$300,000 to help patients who face large medical bills.

To pay for these changes, MediShield premiums and deductibles -- the amount of a hospital bill a patient has to pay before MediShield coverage kicks in -- will have to increase.

The deductibles for bills from a Class C ward will increase from S$1,000 to S$1,500 and from S$1,500 to S$2,000 for Class B2 bills.

As for premiums, the Health Minister said the increase will amount to no more than S$5 per month for the majority of policyholders aged 65 and below.

For those older, their premiums will be largely offset by the annual and one-time Medisave top-ups, such that they will in fact see a decrease in premiums payable.

In the Budget this year, a one-time Medisave top-up of up to S$33 per month was announced to help Singaporeans absorb the impact of the increase.

Medisave top-ups of up to $450 a year under the GST Voucher scheme can also offset the premium, MOH added.

Speaking at the opening of the Simulation and Integrated Medical Training Advancement Centre at Tan Tock Seng Hospital on Wednesday, the Minister said patients who have difficulties paying their MediShield premiums and deductibles despite the assistance given will have avenues such as Medifund to turn to for further help.

"The important thing is to assure Singaporeans that even with the adjustment in premiums and deductibles, MediShield and healthcare will continue to be affordable for Singaporeans," he said.
 
They have been 'farting' for some time on this medical thing, I was expecting some "shits" to drop soon & this news is not a surprised, unless one belong to the 60%. Why do you people think they are so generous by giving "your money" into "their Money" (CPF), with all these topping up thing?

It is like "fattening the boars" and then "kill for supper", if you can't smell their "fart" & expect "shit" to drop...I really don't know what to say? & "what do you think"??:rolleyes:
 
They have been 'farting' for some time on this medical thing, I was expecting some "shits" to drop soon & this news is not a surprised, unless one belong to the 60%. Why do you people think they are so generous by giving "your money" into "their Money" (CPF), with all these topping up thing?

It is like "fattening the boars" and then "kill for supper", if you can't smell their "fart" & expect "shit" to drop...I really don't know what to say? & "what do you think"??:rolleyes:

Yes that pretty much says it. But 60% will praise the govt, for increasing their coverage. They should read the fine print. It will cost them.
 
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The deductibles for bills from a Class C ward will increase from S$1,000 to S$1,500 and from S$1,500 to S$2,000 for Class B2 bills.

I just couldn't figure out the sum.
The premium is increased yet you have to pay more? An increased of 1k to 1.5k in deductible for class C is a lot. Which means the poor would have to come out with more cash upfront before medishield kicks in.

I suspect there will be huge increases in medical bill coming.
 
Yes that pretty much says it. But 60% will praise the govt, for increasing their coverage. They should read the fine print. It will cost them.

If they every read the fine prints in anything the government dishes out over the decades, they would have made SINgapore a lot better place to live in!.

Medicine has become another "money making machine", they are making money out of our miseries!. Go down to Sinaran Drive & see how many hospitals or clinics coming up? You have TTSH, NNI (SGH), National Skin Clinic, Novena Specialist & Medical Centers, Mt Elizabeth (Novena) & Ren Ci Hospital, more money for your sickness!!

If you checked into a hospital, that is where they start 'making money' out of your fear & condition, whereas they can combine treatment in one doctor; you will have specialist seeing you for different things & some are just not necessary. But out of fear, many will end up paying for consultation they don't really need!!

A small example, Therapist, they will throw in Mental ( Psychologist, Psychiatrist), Physiotherapist ( Physio & Occupational); you will end up seeing four consultants, that will cost you a 'bomb', btw the two physio's can be combined into one, but they separate it out to make money out of your misery & fear.

In SINgapore, the government makes money out of us , in every which way we turn, including our health! & why are we paying GST for medicines, & medical treatment etc??

If the 60% ever read the fine prints....a ray of sunshine will come through!:mad:
 
I just couldn't figure out the sum.
The premium is increased yet you have to pay more? An increased of 1k to 1.5k in deductible for class C is a lot. Which means the poor would have to come out with more cash upfront before medishield kicks in.

I suspect there will be huge increases in medical bill coming.

Yep, no one can figure it out either. The Class C deductible increase is a lot. But to me, the lifetime claim is the big deal. From $200K to $300K. They make you pay higher premuims in order to claim up to $300K, but than they get it back by increasing charges for medical procedures so it will mean your $100K increase really does not buy more medical services. See PAP cunning or not?
 
If they every read the fine prints in anything the government dishes out over the decades, they would have made SINgapore a lot better place to live in!.

Medicine has become another "money making machine", they are making money out of our miseries!. Go down to Sinaran Drive & see how many hospitals or clinics coming up? You have TTSH, NNI (SGH), National Skin Clinic, Novena Specialist & Medical Centers, Mt Elizabeth (Novena) & Ren Ci Hospital, more money for your sickness!!

If you checked into a hospital, that is where they start 'making money' out of your fear & condition, whereas they can combine treatment in one doctor; you will have specialist seeing you for different things & some are just not necessary. But out of fear, many will end up paying for consultation they don't really need!!

A small example, Therapist, they will throw in Mental ( Psychologist, Psychiatrist), Physiotherapist ( Physio & Occupational); you will end up seeing four consultants, that will cost you a 'bomb', btw the two physio's can be combined into one, but they separate it out to make money out of your misery & fear.

In SINgapore, the government makes money out of us , in every which way we turn, including our health! & why are we paying GST for medicines, & medical treatment etc??

If the 60% ever read the fine prints....a ray of sunshine will come through!:mad:

Unfortunately, that is true. Only in Singapore the doctors will see your wealth or economic status. The more money u have, the more tests will be ordered for you and more specialists u will be seeing. If you are a wealthy indonesian walking in, they will start salivating.
 
Yep, no one can figure it out either. The Class C deductible increase is a lot. But to me, the lifetime claim is the big deal. From $200K to $300K. They make you pay higher premuims in order to claim up to $300K, but than they get it back by increasing charges for medical procedures so it will mean your $100K increase really does not buy more medical services. See PAP cunning or not?

In the name of providing you with world class whatever medical care...words like "upgrading", "up sizing" "subsidizing" will be thrown around soon! your sickness is their income...
 
I still remember that when I had a heart attack, the out of pocket expenses were as bad as the medical problem:eek:
I wasn't allowed to used my own CPF even though I had more than enough for a few heart by-pass surgeries.

After my hospital stay I couldn't even use any of my CPF to pay for my regular visits to the cardiologist which was costing me $300 to $600 per visit:mad:

My solution was to abandon the Spore healthcare system:rolleyes:
I did my own homework & found alternative solutions overseas.
If you need elective surgery people should shop around for cheaper & better treatment in Malacca, Penang, Bangkok,....
 
I still remember that when I had a heart attack, the out of pocket expenses were as bad as the medical problem:eek:
I wasn't allowed to used my own CPF even though I had more than enough for a few heart by-pass surgeries.

After my hospital stay I couldn't even use any of my CPF to pay for my regular visits to the cardiologist which was costing me $300 to $600 per visit:mad:

My solution was to abandon the Spore healthcare system:rolleyes:
I did my own homework & found alternative solutions overseas.
If you need elective surgery people should shop around for cheaper & better treatment in Malacca, Penang, Bangkok,....

You gave them your "heart"?? they have 'heart' for you, fortunate you didn't have another heart attack & pass on, when you are shown the bill or you will be 'shown the door out", in which they will benefit on your demise!
 
In Sinkapore, one can die cannot get sick...
PAP- Pay and Pay
WP- Why Pay?
SDP- So Dont Pay!
SPP- So Pay Please...
 
Yes that pretty much says it. But 60% will praise the govt, for increasing their coverage. They should read the fine print. It will cost them.



hi there


1. aiyoh!
2. no free lunch hoh.
3. daft sheep must have to pay for everything.
 
You gave them your "heart"?? they have 'heart' for you, fortunate you didn't have another heart attack & pass on, when you are shown the bill or you will be 'shown the door out", in which they will benefit on your demise!


If you go to any Spore hospital the busiest people are the gate keepers i.e the accounts dept. Everyone has to see them before and after one's hospital stay. That's when Sporeans find out about the realities of our world class system:rolleyes:

Even if you die the PAP will get to keep your body as part of HOTA.
 
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