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My observations on the recent deaths of a Lee and a Yong

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I was quite surprised to hear no comments from gay Loong on the death of his uncle. And only a one line comment from Old Goat about the death of his brother. Yet, Gay Loong waxed lyrical about the virtues and achievements of his uncle in law Yong Nyuk Lin. This is a man who was many years senior to gay Loong, whom Gay Loong could not have been around too much, yet gay Loong talks like he lost some one close. Of course, Yong is married to Gay Loong's aunty on his mother's side. This just reinforces my suspicion that the Kwa side has always been closer to gay Loong than the Lee side of the family. This applies possibly to Old Goat too, who barely tolerated his siblings. Compared to the kwas, the lee side were distinctly underachievers. Just my two cents.

P.S. 3 of Freddy's 4 grandchildren are US citizens, yet another damning indictment on the state of singapore when even the elites want to get out.
 
The Kwas and Gohs are what we call Emerld Hill Penakans. The Lees are Joo Chiat Pernakans. The wife and Keng Swee used to share the same transport to school and knew each other. Dick Lee's family is also Emerald Hill gang and he is related to Goh.

The difference in class is not the the reason why the immediate family is not spopjken of. Old man when he came to power in 59 had an embargo on anything on the family. This is for privacy reasons and also to protect their interest. He even went to the extent of telling them what kind of cars they can buy and drive. When he got control of the MSM the rules were made very clear. When the youngest bought a Ferrari, the dealer and salesman was called to the Istana, scolded and asked to take the car from the basement of Singtel building which the so used to hide the car.

Dictators all have this habit especially when they want to portray themselves as the only possible ruler dedicated to the citizens. Yasser Afafat of PLO had his wife and children living a lap of luxury in Paris for over 3 decades and he was worth billions. That house in Oxley frozen in time is a classic. A blurfuck would think we are looking at a family that values it meagre possession.

Nassim Jade was a rare incident which despite the brother's control came out unexpectedly.





I was quite surprised to hear no comments from gay Loong on the death of his uncle. And only a one line comment from Old Goat about the death of his brother. Yet, Gay Loong waxed lyrical about the virtues and achievements of his uncle in law Yong Nyuk Lin. This is a man who was many years senior to gay Loong, whom Gay Loong could not have been around too much, yet gay Loong talks like he lost some one close. Of course, Yong is married to Gay Loong's aunty on his mother's side. This just reinforces my suspicion that the Kwa side has always been closer to gay Loong than the Lee side of the family. This applies possibly to Old Goat too, who barely tolerated his siblings. Compared to the kwas, the lee side were distinctly underachievers. Just my two cents.

P.S. 3 of Freddy's 4 grandchildren are US citizens, yet another damning indictment on the state of singapore when even the elites want to get out.
 
The Kwas and Gohs are what we call Emerld Hill Penakans. The Lees are Joo Chiat Pernakans. The wife and Keng Swee used to share the same transport to school and knew each other. Dick Lee's family is also Emerald Hill gang and he is related to Goh.

The difference in class is not the the reason why the immediate family is not spopjken of. Old man when he came to power in 59 had an embargo on anything on the family. This is for privacy reasons and also to protect their interest. He even went to the extent of telling them what kind of cars they can buy and drive. When he got control of the MSM the rules were made very clear. When the youngest bought a Ferrari, the dealer and salesman was called to the Istana, scolded and asked to take the car from the basement of Singtel building which the so used to hide the car.

Dictators all have this habit especially when they want to portray themselves as the only possible ruler dedicated to the citizens. Yasser Afafat of PLO had his wife and children living a lap of luxury in Paris for over 3 decades and he was worth billions. That house in Oxley frozen in time is a classic. A blurfuck would think we are looking at a family that values it meagre possession.

Nassim Jade was a rare incident which despite the brother's control came out unexpectedly.

This is not the case anymore. I know that even when Gay Loong married his first wife, the wife's parents were told in no uncertain terms that they have to remain living in their bedok HDB flat for appearance purposes. They were not allowed to buy expensive condo or nice cars even though their daughter is now married to one of the richest bapoks in singapore. Now the 3rd generations of Lees and Kwa have no such restrictions. They drive very nice cars, live in expensive properties and live quite openly well. I know a couple of them. But the tight control of the press is such that the public do not know they are and allows them the ability to live like a king without being detected as a Lee or a Kwa. If this was the UK, the Lee/Kwa family would be like the royal family, and even a minor 3 rd generation royal family member would be welll known and scrutinised.
 
Agree on the relaxed rule on acquiring and showing the wealth. But still cannot publicise on the immediate family. Thus nothing on Fred.



This is not the case anymore. I know that even when Gay Loong married his first wife, the wife's parents were told in no uncertain terms that they have to remain living in their bedok HDB flat for appearance purposes. They were not allowed to buy expensive condo or nice cars even though their daughter is now married to one of the richest bapoks in singapore. Now the 3rd generations of Lees and Kwa have no such restrictions. They drive very nice cars, live in expensive properties and live quite openly well. I know a couple of them. But the tight control of the press is such that the public do not know they are and allows them the ability to live like a king without being detected as a Lee or a Kwa. If this was the UK, the Lee/Kwa family would be like the royal family, and even a minor 3 rd generation royal family member would be welll known and scrutinised.
 
Agree on the relaxed rule on acquiring and showing the wealth. But still cannot publicise on the immediate family. Thus nothing on Fred.

It is already quite common knowledge that Freddy owns a horse ranch in New Zealand, etc. This indicates that he is very welathy already. I am sure his kid are not driving Hyundais in the US. In terms of the immediate family, if you add the Kwas and Lees together, collectively, they are one of the largest property owners in singapore. As far as I know, they don't sell, they just keep buy and holding. If people want an explanation on why property prices keep going up, this is it. Why would the MIW have any incentive to lower housing prices and hurt their own portfolios when they can keep riding it higher and make more money.
 
Agree on the relaxed rule on acquiring and showing the wealth. But still cannot publicise on the immediate family. Thus nothing on Fred.

why do you think estate duty tax was abolished? to prevent the fact of their enormous wealth from becoming a matter of public record.

what a joke this country is.
 
What is the used of having Authority if they can't even change the rule to suit their needs... self preservation.

Do you know why active NS is changed to 2 years? Discount 6 months...
 
hahaha...the empty vessel and the cockeral singing a duet.....
freddy lee may be related to lky/lhl but he is a private citizen......
u expect lky/lhl to make public statement on freddy........really kuku.
yong was one of the old guard of papee...and protocol wise, as pm, lhl has to make some statement...
same as for all the other guards who passed away.......
whether he is his uncle or he knew him personally is a moot point.....

Don't know what kind of shit talk u are saying. Gecko was also a private citizen When she died. Con you got make comments or not? Gay Loong got make comments or not. Of course they did. By the way, Freddy is a public figure too, when you are prominent in the stockbroking industry, race track, etc. u are in the public eye. Many politicians make comments on public figures who have passed. Also many minor old guards have passed away without even the Lees making any comments. And Yong was a small figure in the overall PAP scenario.
 
why do you think estate duty tax was abolished? to prevent the fact of their enormous wealth from becoming a matter of public record.

what a joke this country is.

This is BIG lie started by PAPzis. Taxes are paid every year! :oIo: You do not need to wait for a person to die to know what their worth is. :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

The removal of estate duty is very simple. It is to avoid paying taxes. :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:
 
This is BIG lie started by PAPzis. Taxes are paid every year! :oIo: You do not need to wait for a person to die to know what their worth is. :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

The removal of estate duty is very simple. It is to avoid paying taxes. :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

Trying to change the subject again, u piece of PAP shit? He is talking about confidentiality of the estate, and u are talking about annual taxes. 2 different subjects.He is talking about public knowledge, u dumb shit. Yes, the Kwas and the Lees pay taxes every year, but only the Inland Revenue Service will know what their worth is. Its different when they die, their estate goes into probate which is a judicial process open for all to see so that any claimants can come forward against their estate. As such, their estate assets will be revealed and people will know what they have. In many countries, estate taxes are several times more than income taxes, so the abolishing of estate tax is a benefit for the Lees.
 
This is BIG lie started by PAPzis. Taxes are paid every year! :oIo: You do not need to wait for a person to die to know what their worth is. :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

The removal of estate duty is very simple. It is to avoid paying taxes. :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

Annual income tax only captures your income for the year. Moreover, captial gains are not reported in income tax.

Estate duty tax would have captured Every single asset inherited, earned, or other wise obtained.
 
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Trying to change the subject again, u piece of PAP shit? He is talking about confidentiality of the estate, and u are talking about annual taxes. 2 different subjects.He is talking about public knowledge, u dumb shit. Yes, the Kwas and the Lees pay taxes every year, but only the Inland Revenue Service will know what their worth is. Its different when they die, their estate goes into probate which is a judicial process open for all to see so that any claimants can come forward against their estate. As such, their estate assets will be revealed and people will know what they have. In many countries, estate taxes are several times more than income taxes, so the abolishing of estate tax is a benefit for the Lees.

Heh you puacheebye! You have a very good point. If I had known that earlier I would not have posted in like manner. So KNNPCB to you too!

Your points are valid and I appreciate it but it should not be forgotten that tax avoidance is another reason for the PAPzis to abolish estate duty. It should not be lost that yearly income tax does provide annual income and in a variety of categories. From these yearly incomes it is quite easy to see how the gecko and family have accumulated their wealth on a yearly basis and with some insight into where their incomes are derived.

Estate duty is a good way but it will only provide a cumulative figure, the yearly income tax payments will also provide a very good indication of the increments in their wealth and provide insights into the various ways that their wealth were accumulated.
 
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What is the used of having Authority if they can't even change the rule to suit their needs... self preservation.

Do you know why active NS is changed to 2 years? Discount 6 months...

well , nothing is what it seems. look for the ulterior motive.

why all of a sudden hdb introduced the race quota in selling flats ?
look for the ulterior motive again.

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:D:D:D:D:D
 
Heh you puacheebye! You have a very good point. If I had known that earlier I would not have posted in like manner. So KNNPCB to you too!

Your points are valid and I appreciate it but it should not be forgotten that tax avoidance is another reason for the PAPzis to abolish estate duty. It should not be lost that yearly income tax does provide annual income and in a variety of categories. From these yearly incomes it is quite easy to see how the gecko and family have accumulated their wealth on a yearly basis and with some insight into where their incomes are derived.

Estate duty is a good way but it will only provide a cumulative figure, the yearly income tax payments will also provide a very good indication of the increments in their wealth and provide insights into the various ways that their wealth were accumulated.

how come you cannot understand what Papsmearer said.
he said :As such, their estate assets will be revealed and people will know what they have.

you mean you or anyone can to see what how much others are paying their income tax ?
 
well , nothing is what it seems. look for the ulterior motive.

why all of a sudden hdb introduced the race quota in selling flats ?
look for the ulterior motive again.

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Explain please... I honestly think that having a race-quota on house has it benefit to our country.(The main-stream explanation by Lky)
 
Anyone wants to guess how much our royal familee is worth?
More than the Waltons?
 
you think all of a sudden they care who your neighbours are ?

Divide and Rule? But arent the people themselves responsible for this divide in the first place, Only peasants care about race and the Elites use this to their advantage.
 
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Capital gains no tax as well as other qualifying income as setout in the ITA.

Estate duties was imposed on total wealth transferred.

Obviously you don't know what you are talking about.:rolleyes:

This is BIG lie started by PAPzis. Taxes are paid every year! :oIo: You do not need to wait for a person to die to know what their worth is. :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

The removal of estate duty is very simple. It is to avoid paying taxes. :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:
 
Heh you puacheebye! You have a very good point. If I had known that earlier I would not have posted in like manner. So KNNPCB to you too!

Your points are valid and I appreciate it but it should not be forgotten that tax avoidance is another reason for the PAPzis to abolish estate duty. It should not be lost that yearly income tax does provide annual income and in a variety of categories. From these yearly incomes it is quite easy to see how the gecko and family have accumulated their wealth on a yearly basis and with some insight into where their incomes are derived.

Estate duty is a good way but it will only provide a cumulative figure, the yearly income tax payments will also provide a very good indication of the increments in their wealth and provide insights into the various ways that their wealth were accumulated.

Once again, shoot your mouth off and show what a jackass u are. For rich people, many report very little income taxes. This is a common knowledge, accept an idiot like u don't know this. Rich people have large accounting firms that shelter their income behind trusts, holding companies, write offs, tax loss vehicles, etc. Gecko and Old Goat only report a small fraction of their annual income. The simplest example of this is lets say a person owns 100% of a company A that is worth $1 billion, and the company earns $10 million a year. The person is an employee of the company, and is its president. The person request and draws a salary of $40,000 annually from the company. Therefore, on his yearly income tax, he reports $40K. Based on $40K that he earns a year, you mean to say u know he is worth $10 billion? U are a fucking idiot. Now, using this same example, lets say this man dies tomorrow. All his estate including his shares in company A goes to probate court. Guess what now, the judge and tax authorities can now open all his assets and say how much there is and tax him on $10 billion for estate duty purposes. SO, his $40K means nothing.

This is exactly what happened with Gecko. Gecko is the founding partner for Lee and Lee, a law corporation. SHe has x numbers of shares in the company. How many shares, no one knows because there is no estate duty. Lee and Lee is one of the most profiable law firms in singapore. For decades, they dominate the HDB conveyancing busines and earn billions $ just from this source alone. If Lee and Lee earns $100 million a year, and Gecko owns 50% of the shares, in practice her income should be $50 million per year. But because its a law corporation, she can simply request a salary fixed at $1 million, leave the rest in the company and let it ride as retained earnings. If there was an estate duty tax, we will know exactly how much money her shares are worth.

Its a very simple logic, try and wrap your head around it.
 
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