is your pay 3 million dollar ? Then you higher than our dear leader !

[R4g3]

You want to be Prime Minister. Great.

$16.5K a month like what you suggested.
I want to see anymore takers at $16.5K/mth
What are the things you going to do for the country?
With the recent crisis, what are your ready plans to steer the country back to greater heights?
With the recent inflation, retrenchment, higher costs in living, what are your immediate plans to rectify these situations?
How will you be able to carry out these actions?

On the payroll, its more than just these situations but many more.
Housing, Economy, Retail, Tourism, Defence, Tax, Revenue.

What is your view on the market situation for the coming 6 months to a year. Your forecasts for 2 years down the road? Any plans to further develop the economy to grow?

I haven't even asked you what are your qualifications. It's not important. But how you answer the questions above will show us at a preliminary stage as how qualified one will be to take up the mantle.

Decision A made, benefits People B, but could be at the expense of People C.

Being a leader of a country is not just about donating money to the poor.
There is a very big difference in feeding a person with fish and teaching him how to fish.
Don't talk about those getting less than $1.5K a month. Leaders don't talk like this. If you are going to talk what about those getting less than $1.5K a month, then please reduce your expectation of salary of Prime Minister to $2K and not $16.5K/mth. Your earnings is in perspective to the responsibilities that you are going to hold.

at least i wont allow the investment of the 4 banks in the 1st place when sub prime problem already surfaced and made known. that would have save approximately S$18,600,000,000.00 of peoples money for such a high risk. I definitely wont gamble them this way.

 

[silverfox@]

i won't say 33k a month is alot as i have already made that kind of money 10 years ago. But if the money comes from the people, then it is definitely not little.

The reason why i wont take up as a PM "IF" i can ever be one, is because i dont have the basic qualities of a PM. To me, a good politician should have the heart of giving, a heart to serve and compassion for the people. It has nothing to do with how high or how low is the salary. If a person without the above qualities is attracted just because of the high salary, his decision will be focus on performance and not the welfare of the people.

If i do have the qualities, i wouldnt mind taking up the job, as long as there is enough food on the table.
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The big problem is many of us here do not have the basic qualities of a PM.
I have never studied accountancy, so I can't teach an accountant how to do accounts.

10 years ago, you made $33K which should be around $50K in today's terms. The irony is George Bush is even earning less than you, so I think Bush Jr should just wank himself to death. :p

We should never compare salary because there is this chinese saying, ren bi ren, qi si ren. Compare and complain.

In our society, even people who have the basic qualities may not want to be Prime Minister. They may not want to undertake the country's responsibilities all under his shoulder.
As a person who serves the country, he must serve the country and not worry about the livelihood of his family and welfare. If the politician is poor, he has to worry about his family (No.1) and worry about the country's problems.
I am not saying that the politicians are under-paid. But many people with basic qualities to be in govt, would be better off in private sector if they are paid less as a member of parliament.
At least if anything happens, they don't need to account to you or me or the people. And yet still get paid well.

What is a man of compassion, heart to give, if he cannot feed his family well? I believe in feeding a worker well, so that he has no worries to give all his best to the company.

 

[silverfox@]

at least i wont allow the investment of the 4 banks in the 1st place when sub prime problem already surfaced and made known. that would have save approximately S$18,600,000,000.00 of peoples money for such a high risk. I definitely wont gamble them this way.

It's pointless to talk about things that already happened. If you and me knew, we would have been fuckin rich by now.

Did you knew 2 years back that Fannie, Freddie Mae, Merril Lynch, Lehmann, AIG, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup to be in deep shit?
That's why I said, pointless to talk about things that happen, we should be talking about things that is going to happen or we think it will happen.:o

 

[JinGanKor]

Btw, Gordon Brown is drawing about S$46k a month, Sarkozy is drawing S$43k, Vladimir Putin at S$10k Angela Merkel at S$39k.

It is not rare to find leaders of other countries drawing S$30+k to S$40+k, and in fact those are already the top earners. It is actually VERY RARE to find a leader making more then $100k a month and the only one that qualified is our PM who is drawing at least $250k a month.

lol. these people you have mentioned are considered insane in the eyes of the elite and should get out from their uncaring face.

 

[R4g3]

It's pointless to talk about things that already happened. If you and me knew, we would have been fuckin rich by now.

Did you knew 2 years back that Fannie, Freddie Mae, Merril Lynch, Lehmann, AIG, Morgan Stanley, Citigroup to be in deep shit?
That's why I said, pointless to talk about things that happen, we should be talking about things that is going to happen or we think it will happen.:o

when they want to invest, there are already alot of articles that said it is not right and pointed out the problems, including local webby. Even Warren Buffet said that he will never touch them at this point of time because the banks have too much problems need to be iron out.

i do know the trouble is coming because alot of symptoms are there. In fact i have already cash out everything i can. I even refuse to extend the lease of 2 of my outlets when the landlord ask for 30% increase for a 3 year contract because i know anytime it is going to collapse.

 

[johnny333]

Back to salary for Prime Minister. This is the 3rd time I am saying this.

Would you take up the mantle to be Prime Minister at a pay of $33K a month? No one dare to take up. You said there are many others who are willing to take up the mantle, the problem will be will you dare to take up?
Remember, if you dare to take up the job, how good you run the country, no one pat your back. You screw the country, everyone thirst for your blood. $33K a month, Worth it or not

Yeah, anyone who wants to takes up the challenge has to be prepared to be fixed by LKY & his PAP system.

Sporeans really getting fed up with constant prices hikes. Also have alot of screws ups without anyone taking responsibility.

There are plenty of Sporeans who'd do the job for 33k a month. I bet many are even better than our current PM.

 

[JinGanKor]

What is a man of compassion, heart to give, if he cannot feed his family well? I believe in feeding a worker well, so that he has no worries to give all his best to the company.

it depends on what kind of standard is your "well".

i remember there was an article on local paper on the topic of the law enforcer of our neighbour. The article was trying to say that because of low salary, corruption is almost a practice in all levels, because their salary is not enough to feed the family. They are trying to show that high salary does help to prevent corruption.

But the point is how high should it be? these people corrupt because their salary are so low that they cannot even feed their family. But here we are talking about salary too low that they only buy a mercedes every month? if we dont increase it to 2 mercedes, they will have no choice to corrupt to get it?

I am not saying a leader with compassion should be drawing only $500 and give his entire life to the country, but definitely the point to be classified as high shouldnt be that ridiculous.

If $33k a month is not enough to live in comfort ( i havent include bonus, welfare, benefits) and need to corrupt, then the problem doesnt lie with the amount, it lies with the person.

If drawing $33k a month is so low until it will create worries for him, then i really have no idea what kind of leaders we have.

 

[JinGanKor]

Yeah, anyone who wants to takes up the challenge has to be prepared to be fixed by LKY & his PAP system.

Sporeans really getting fed up with constant prices hikes. Also have alot of screws ups without anyone taking responsibility.

There are plenty of Sporeans who'd do the job for 33k a month. I bet many are even better than our current PM.

i will worry that they will start checking whether did i forget to pay my TV license, did i jay walk, or ask my neighbour auntie did i walk around my house topless.

imagine next day all the front page of our local paper is a picture of me accidentally drop a piece of tissue and i am branded as a national disgrace because i have "litter".

 

[myo539]

If they can lower it to near USA, UK or Aus, it would be more acceptable to most people.
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By the same token, can I ask you to lower your salary to that of the Bangladeshi, Thai, Indon or PRC workers which is "more acceptable" to all the bosses in Singapore?

After all as you argued, they are from far larger countries, and I bet they are far more hard working or even have a higher and better qualification than you.

If you are of any substance - eg a mid-level manager, I think your salary may be higher than President Arroyo, PM Abdullah Badawi, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono or PM Wen Jiabao. Would you like to have their salary?

 

[R4g3]

By the same token, can I ask you to lower your salary to that of the Bangladeshi, Thai, Indon or PRC workers which is "more acceptable" to all the bosses in Singapore?

After all as you argued, they are from far larger countries, and I bet they are far more hard working or even have a higher and better qualification than you.

If you are of any substance - eg a mid-level manager, I think your salary may be higher than President Arroyo, PM Abdullah Badawi, President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono or PM Wen Jiabao. Would you like to have their salary?

1 step at a time, I am only asking them to reduce from 200k a month to 40k.

Base on what you have written, it seems that even a 30k a month is too high for them, since those leaders are actually running a much bigger country with much bigger population and also with natural disasters. If you really want to compare this way, you want our leader to draw only 2k a month?
that's too harsh lol

We are even scolded for no sense of proportion because they compare their salary with GDP.
But is this comparison right in the first place?
Let's base on this ratio of salary against GDP and we use other top 8 countries as a gauge.
If our PM is drawing $3.5m a year, then these leaders, each of them should be drawing at least $100m a year.
Lets look at it the other way, if Gordon Brown is drawing about S$552k a year, then our PM should be drawing only $19000.

Seems like other then our elite, the rest of the world really have no sense of proportion.

 

[R4g3]

i will worry that they will start checking whether did i forget to pay my TV license, did i jay walk, or ask my neighbour auntie did i walk around my house topless.

imagine next day all the front page of our local paper is a picture of me accidentally drop a piece of tissue and i am branded as a national disgrace because i have "litter".

also please make sure you have zipped up before you step out of the house.

 

[zack123]

The problem is if you are Prime Minister, would you be happy with just 3 Million with so many people breathing down your necks in online forum, thirsting for your blood.

If give you $400,000 per annum, I think you also don't want to be Prime Minister.

So why not let's ask everyone, if you are Prime Minister, how much you want to be paid per annum?

I want to work for free because i love Singapore! After the end of 4 years just pay me my monthly pension of SGD300,000 per month till i die.

 

[R4g3]

I want to work for free because i love Singapore! After the end of 4 years just pay me my monthly pension of SGD300,000 per month till i die.

Don't pretend to be noble, I know you are eying the welfare and benefits, or even some directors fee. I am also sure you know how good is the pension scheme, not only in terms of money, but other benefits, especially medical. If not they also won't remove this scheme and only keep for themselves.

 

[zack123]

Don't pretend to be noble, I know you are eying the welfare and benefits, or even some directors fee. I am also sure you know how good is the pension scheme, not only in terms of money, but other benefits, especially medical. If not they also won't remove this scheme and only keep for themselves.

Eh don't tell everyone la. Next time you'd see a long list of people queing up to be the next PM. Actually being PM is easy in Spore cos nobody challenges your decision. That's why i will work for free.

 

[R4g3]

Eh don't tell everyone la. Next time you'd see a long list of people queing up to be the next PM. Actually being PM is easy in Spore cos nobody challenges your decision. That's why i will work for free.

then let them all snatch for it while i go for a better job, The PRESIDENT. This one lagi best, pay even higher, but job scope wise...you know I know la...I better stop elaborating if not alot of people will start queuing for my dream job.

 

[zack123]

then let them all snatch for it while i go for a better job, The PRESIDENT. This one lagi best, pay even higher, but job scope wise...you know I know la...I better stop elaborating if not alot of people will start queuing for my dream job.

Like dat i become PM u become President. We can lim kopi at the prataman's shop

 

[R4g3]

Like dat i become PM u become President. We can lim kopi at the prataman's shop

but I don't know how to make prata, do you know how to cook mee siam mai hum?

But other things I am sure I am capable enough, like shake hand, wave, attend opening ceremony, charity show. In fact every morning I go East Coast for my exercise in order to catch a glimpse of my idol.

 

[madmansg]

$16.5K a month like what you suggested.
I want to see anymore takers at $16.5K/mth
What are the things you going to do for the country?
With the recent crisis, what are your ready plans to steer the country back to greater heights?
With the recent inflation, retrenchment, higher costs in living, what are your immediate plans to rectify these situations?
How will you be able to carry out these actions?
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you think everyone is motivated by money ? THAt is a fallacy of a gambler mentality.
even if people are motivated by money , there come a stage in their life they want to give back. People like michael bloomberg, bill gates , warren buffet are examples.

 

[silverfox@]

when they want to invest, there are already alot of articles that said it is not right and pointed out the problems, including local webby. Even Warren Buffet said that he will never touch them at this point of time because the banks have too much problems need to be iron out.

i do know the trouble is coming because alot of symptoms are there. In fact i have already cash out everything i can. I even refuse to extend the lease of 2 of my outlets when the landlord ask for 30% increase for a 3 year contract because i know anytime it is going to collapse.

Actually I have nothing against Warren buffett and don't quite understand why people love to always quote him.
Just for info
This financial crisis also hurt Berkshire Hathaway.
Warren Buffett became the 'Oracle of Omaha' due to timing, and his eye on investment at that very point of time which propel him to god-like status. I use the word god-like and not really god.

Yes, a lot of people expected such crisis to happen, but even Warren Buffett did not know the seriousness as to how it can affect. Did he predict which FI will collapse. Or which auto car company going to bankrupt. No.

If we are going to just talk about how great Warren Buffett is, then its as if the whole world only Warren can play the market? No. The financial crisis is inter-link as the whole world companies are all investing in each other. That is why when the FIs collapse, going through bankruptcy, ripples happen to all other countries as well.

Even you as a common person does investments, and your name is not Warren buffett. :o

 

[silverfox@]

$16.5K a month like what you suggested.
I want to see anymore takers at $16.5K/mth
What are the things you going to do for the country?
With the recent crisis, what are your ready plans to steer the country back to greater heights?
With the recent inflation, retrenchment, higher costs in living, what are your immediate plans to rectify these situations?
How will you be able to carry out these actions?
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you think everyone is motivated by money ? THAt is a fallacy of a gambler mentality.
even if people are motivated by money , there come a stage in their life they want to give back. People like michael bloomberg, bill gates , warren buffet are examples.

I know you are not motivated by money, so what concrete stuff have you done for the people then?
By the way, don't quote those people. Quote what you yourself have done. :o