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Will another Korean War happen in the short term?

sukhoi-30

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It is rightly true to an extent that a major war may not break out at this moment. All the powers, US,China and to a lesser extent Russia would not allow things to spiral out of control. From a strategic perspective, the country who fear a war the most is South Korea.

Having build up their economy successfully, Seoul cannot allow a war to destroy her hard-earned economy and social development build over the last 30 years. South Korea knows very clearly that if war breaks up,Pyongyang will destroy the whole of South Korea. A military response from the US on the north will not make any strategic sense if all of her infastructure are destroyed. The South Korean military and government as Koreans themselves have no doubt the intention, capability and determination of the northern neighbor to raze the South into oblivion. The violent artillery response from North Korea is a clear example of what the North Koreans are capable of. No matter how modern the South military are, this single determination to wage war are unbalanced between the 2 Koreas.

The United States would not also want a war with the North Koreans or worse the Chinese.Fighting east Asians in WW2 with the japanese had cast a subtle fear of the US in fighting East Asians. This was further made worse by subsequent encounters with the Chinese Peoples' Liberation Army troops (Chinese peoples Voulunteer force) during the Korean War which beat back the US and UN troops. As MM Lee Kuan Yew once mentioned, the US military was taken aback by the determination,discipline and ferocity of Chinese( a long seen Sick Man of the East) troops fighting in a "Ding Dong" battle.The Vietnam War serves another example. Thus, the fact that the Chinese can fought and beat the US army(iiregardless of casualties) somewhat strike fear on them.

China too did not want a war breaking up next door. Having basked in great power success economically, militarily and socially, the last thing China wants is instability. While China will joined in to support the north Koreans if a war breaks out, the North cannot expect the support to be similar during the Korean war in 1950. This is because the chinese was fighting for their dignity, their country's survival and all sorts of strategic concerns then.Thus despite China's excuses of her limited influence on Pyongyang, the close military relations mean a certain influence of the PLA on the North Korean top brass.


Thus,the South can only used a deterrence kind of tactic against the north as far as a military confrontation is concerned. That is why their reponse is always massive military exercises. The South cannot afford to have even a 25-30% destruction of Seoul's infastructure. That would mean an end to its globalised economy and the whole country as well. Moreover its conscripted army means answering to parents if their sons died in the thousands. This fear is most starked when the joint naval exercises with the US aircraft carrier took place further away from the demarcation line with the North. A planned artillery exercise in the island of yeongpbeong was also cancelled after the North were heard firing their artilleries in exercises of their own.The US and South Korean navies were also placed in the highest alert with intelligence reports that the North Korean military had places missiles on launch pads. Coupled with shrill warnings ( now taken seriously) by the north Korean military against "violating its terrritories", South Korea have to act cautiously against any eventualities of a war.

It is very unfair to describe South Korea and her response negatively.Having experienced the korean war and of the same race, the south cannot act in a rash matter. Even the US military response was always limited and cautious when it comes to North Korea. The secretive nature of the North Korean military add to this fear.To make things worse, it is now nuclear-armed.Many didn't realised that the whole Korean peninsular will be reduced to rubble if there is a war. Yes, the regime in the North may collapsed but the whole of the South may be a flat land too.

The world must not let this human catastrophic to happen.
 

haywire

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a korean war will likely to spill over to japan.. china.. then russia.. before long the u.s will jump in. when that happens, it will be ww3 nightmare scenario come true. us/uk/nato/israel/india vs russia/china/n.korea/venezuela. an armageddon war of biblical proportion.

if one study history, each time there is a global economic collapse, a world war broke out, look at where we are now, history is about to repeat itself. well let's hope the worse will not happen.
 

cheowyonglee

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It is rightly true to an extent that a major war may not break out at this moment. All the powers, US,China and to a lesser extent Russia would not allow things to spiral out of control. From a strategic perspective, the country who fear a war the most is South Korea.

Having build up their economy successfully, Seoul cannot allow a war to destroy her hard-earned economy and social development build over the last 30 years. South Korea knows very clearly that if war breaks up,Pyongyang will destroy the whole of South Korea. A military response from the US on the north will not make any strategic sense if all of her infastructure are destroyed. The South Korean military and government as Koreans themselves have no doubt the intention, capability and determination of the northern neighbor to raze the South into oblivion. The violent artillery response from North Korea is a clear example of what the North Koreans are capable of. No matter how modern the South military are, this single determination to wage war are unbalanced between the 2 Koreas.

The United States would not also want a war with the North Koreans or worse the Chinese.Fighting east Asians in WW2 with the japanese had cast a subtle fear of the US in fighting East Asians. This was further made worse by subsequent encounters with the Chinese Peoples' Liberation Army troops (Chinese peoples Voulunteer force) during the Korean War which beat back the US and UN troops. As MM Lee Kuan Yew once mentioned, the US military was taken aback by the determination,discipline and ferocity of Chinese( a long seen Sick Man of the East) troops fighting in a "Ding Dong" battle.The Vietnam War serves another example. Thus, the fact that the Chinese can fought and beat the US army(iiregardless of casualties) somewhat strike fear on them.

China too did not want a war breaking up next door. Having basked in great power success economically, militarily and socially, the last thing China wants is instability. While China will joined in to support the north Koreans if a war breaks out, the North cannot expect the support to be similar during the Korean war in 1950. This is because the chinese was fighting for their dignity, their country's survival and all sorts of strategic concerns then.Thus despite China's excuses of her limited influence on Pyongyang, the close military relations mean a certain influence of the PLA on the North Korean top brass.


Thus,the South can only used a deterrence kind of tactic against the north as far as a military confrontation is concerned. That is why their reponse is always massive military exercises. The South cannot afford to have even a 25-30% destruction of Seoul's infastructure. That would mean an end to its globalised economy and the whole country as well. Moreover its conscripted army means answering to parents if their sons died in the thousands. This fear is most starked when the joint naval exercises with the US aircraft carrier took place further away from the demarcation line with the North. A planned artillery exercise in the island of yeongpbeong was also cancelled after the North were heard firing their artilleries in exercises of their own.The US and South Korean navies were also placed in the highest alert with intelligence reports that the North Korean military had places missiles on launch pads. Coupled with shrill warnings ( now taken seriously) by the north Korean military against "violating its terrritories", South Korea have to act cautiously against any eventualities of a war.

It is very unfair to describe South Korea and her response negatively.Having experienced the korean war and of the same race, the south cannot act in a rash matter. Even the US military response was always limited and cautious when it comes to North Korea. The secretive nature of the North Korean military add to this fear.To make things worse, it is now nuclear-armed.Many didn't realised that the whole Korean peninsular will be reduced to rubble if there is a war. Yes, the regime in the North may collapsed but the whole of the South may be a flat land too.

The world must not let this human catastrophic to happen.

like i say, the Communist China is the one to blame for all this!!!If they have let the U.S defeated the North during the 1950, everything will be peace now.But the idiot fxxxx Communist China want to act hero by fighting the U.S for the so called buffer zone to defend against the U.S... knn what buffer zone???or isit the Communist China under the order of the USSR at that time to spread the Communist Southward???

if there is one country to blame for all this, this country is not U.S but Communist China!!! Logical thinking, if the U.S were not kapoh enough, the South will be a Communist state!!! No more galaxy tab for me.No more Samsung LCD for the world!!! No more morden Korean drama.

And we will have a more powerful North Communist threat against the ASEAN members!!!

take note here===>>> A real solution to solve all this is to topple the Communist in China, build a democratic China and the North will be eventually topple too!!!

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zhihau

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Thus, the fact that the Chinese can fought and beat the US army(iiregardless of casualties) somewhat strike fear on them.

shouldn't it be "regardless of..."?

any English teachers around here? kindly enlighten this poor soul :o:o:o
 

da dick

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if i actually cared about my future unborn children, i would want seoul and USA to bomb the shit out of nabeh korea, so that the threat will be wiped out once and for all. china might retaliate with nukes, but i doubt they have the balls or motivation once all n koreans are dead. in the event that china does decide to go to war over n korea, it would probably start a civil war in china or too much infighting for it to last.


but... since i rather have less trouble and risk in my life, i think all western interests should suck cock and do (most of)whatever china and nuts korea tell them to do. diplomatic waiting game. wayang some more loh. losing a few civvies and 2 marines is no big deal if no democracy has the balls to go to war over a REAL threat instead of penniless ragheads and moslems.
 

longbow

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The Chinese will not support NK in a war!

The last thing China wants is a war at their border. BTW there will be no war as both the puppet masters US and China are trying to rein things in.

China wants NK as foil against US (who wants the sole militray superpower in your back yard). Now if US offers to pull out of SK, SK and IMF setup a fund to unite NK, Korean Peninsular declared nuclear free zone, Bejing can very well be persuaded to regime change NK. Beijing can easily do that by offering asylum for the top NK leadership and amnesty.

NK leaders (not just THE FAMILY) are aware that it is too difficult to run a country with an economy based on brinksmanship in exchange for handouts. So many may want a way out!! This is an opportunity for an out - given the power change. Many respected Ill Sung so they acquiesce when power passed on the Jong Ill. But now power going to the next gen and without the stature of Ill Sung the grandfather - most may opt for change.

NK has proven to be a great attack dog for Beijing but if the liability is too great, Beijing could just pull the plug.



It is rightly true to an extent that a major war may not break out at this moment. All the powers, US,China and to a lesser extent Russia would not allow things to spiral out of control. From a strategic perspective, the country who fear a war the most is South Korea.

Having build up their economy successfully, Seoul cannot allow a war to destroy her hard-earned economy and social development build over the last 30 years. South Korea knows very clearly that if war breaks up,Pyongyang will destroy the whole of South Korea. A military response from the US on the north will not make any strategic sense if all of her infastructure are destroyed. The South Korean military and government as Koreans themselves have no doubt the intention, capability and determination of the northern neighbor to raze the South into oblivion. The violent artillery response from North Korea is a clear example of what the North Koreans are capable of. No matter how modern the South military are, this single determination to wage war are unbalanced between the 2 Koreas.

The United States would not also want a war with the North Koreans or worse the Chinese.Fighting east Asians in WW2 with the japanese had cast a subtle fear of the US in fighting East Asians. This was further made worse by subsequent encounters with the Chinese Peoples' Liberation Army troops (Chinese peoples Voulunteer force) during the Korean War which beat back the US and UN troops. As MM Lee Kuan Yew once mentioned, the US military was taken aback by the determination,discipline and ferocity of Chinese( a long seen Sick Man of the East) troops fighting in a "Ding Dong" battle.The Vietnam War serves another example. Thus, the fact that the Chinese can fought and beat the US army(iiregardless of casualties) somewhat strike fear on them.

China too did not want a war breaking up next door. Having basked in great power success economically, militarily and socially, the last thing China wants is instability. While China will joined in to support the north Koreans if a war breaks out, the North cannot expect the support to be similar during the Korean war in 1950. This is because the chinese was fighting for their dignity, their country's survival and all sorts of strategic concerns then.Thus despite China's excuses of her limited influence on Pyongyang, the close military relations mean a certain influence of the PLA on the North Korean top brass.


Thus,the South can only used a deterrence kind of tactic against the north as far as a military confrontation is concerned. That is why their reponse is always massive military exercises. The South cannot afford to have even a 25-30% destruction of Seoul's infastructure. That would mean an end to its globalised economy and the whole country as well. Moreover its conscripted army means answering to parents if their sons died in the thousands. This fear is most starked when the joint naval exercises with the US aircraft carrier took place further away from the demarcation line with the North. A planned artillery exercise in the island of yeongpbeong was also cancelled after the North were heard firing their artilleries in exercises of their own.The US and South Korean navies were also placed in the highest alert with intelligence reports that the North Korean military had places missiles on launch pads. Coupled with shrill warnings ( now taken seriously) by the north Korean military against "violating its terrritories", South Korea have to act cautiously against any eventualities of a war.

It is very unfair to describe South Korea and her response negatively.Having experienced the korean war and of the same race, the south cannot act in a rash matter. Even the US military response was always limited and cautious when it comes to North Korea. The secretive nature of the North Korean military add to this fear.To make things worse, it is now nuclear-armed.Many didn't realised that the whole Korean peninsular will be reduced to rubble if there is a war. Yes, the regime in the North may collapsed but the whole of the South may be a flat land too.

The world must not let this human catastrophic to happen.
 

longbow

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BTW most of the items you mentioned are made in China - including Ipod, Iphone, Ipad. In fact the uber cool white iphone 4 is being developed in China.

like i say, the Communist China is the one to blame for all this!!!If they have let the U.S defeated the North during the 1950, everything will be peace now.But the idiot fxxxx Communist China want to act hero by fighting the U.S for the so called buffer zone to defend against the U.S... knn what buffer zone???or isit the Communist China under the order of the USSR at that time to spread the Communist Southward???

if there is one country to blame for all this, this country is not U.S but Communist China!!! Logical thinking, if the U.S were not kapoh enough, the South will be a Communist state!!! No more galaxy tab for me.No more Samsung LCD for the world!!! No more morden Korean drama.

And we will have a more powerful North Communist threat against the ASEAN members!!!

take note here===>>> A real solution to solve all this is to topple the Communist in China, build a democratic China and the North will be eventually topple too!!!

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longbow

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The way I see it, a united Korea could be useful to Beijing in the future against Japan. There is no love lost between Korea and Japan given the history and a united Korea could be a formidable challenge to Japan with pop of close to 75M quick similar in pop to japan.
 
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