Westminster is a lousy parliamentary system

[Robert Half]

The ruling party in any countries using westminster system can stay in power for more 50 years.

Damn the British for creating such system

Only USA & Taiwan in Presidential system are truly democratic countries

 

[Forvendet]

The Westminster system is designed for countries with monarchs. I think Singapore is one few rarities practising that system without a monarch, if not the only one.

 

[Sideswipe]

The ruling party in any countries using westminster system can stay in power for more 50 years.

Only USA & Taiwan in Presidential system are truly democratic countries

Presidential system vested all the authority in the president which may lead to tyranny. 80% of dictatorship governments past and present are presidential system.

ROC is constitutionally a semi-presidential system like France but Taiwanese run their govt based on the presidential system, ignoring their laws. e.g. the majority party in Legislative Yuan should form the cabinet but Ah Bian cheebye fuck care back then.

 

[steffychun]

http://www.yestofairervotes.org/content/

This is the alternative proposed in the UK. Can it work for SG?

 

[Sideswipe]

http://www.yestofairervotes.org/content/
This is the alternative proposed in the UK. Can it work for SG?

don't understand why the British proposed alternative vote system.
AV is a more "solid form" of First Past The Post electoral system. AV is not proportional representation. Minority parties unlikely to win, just as under current FPTP system.

WTF are Liberal Democrats thinking?

 

[Ash007]

don't understand why the British proposed alternative vote system.
AV is a more "solid form" of First Past The Post electoral system. AV is not proportional representation. Minority parties unlikely to win, just as under current FPTP system.

WTF are Liberal Democrats thinking?

They saw how well it worked for the Aussies, just like how the secret ballot is invented by them as well.

 

[jw5]

Presidential system vested all the authority in the president which may lead to tyranny. 80% of dictatorship governments past and present are presidential system.

ROC is constitutionally a semi-presidential system like France but Taiwanese run their govt based on the presidential system, ignoring their laws. e.g. the majority party in Legislative Yuan should form the cabinet but Ah Bian cheebye fuck care back then.

If that's the case, who selects the Premier and the cabinet ministars?
The Chairman of the majority party?

 

[Sideswipe]

If that's the case, who selects the Premier and the cabinet ministars?
The Chairman of the majority party?

Leader of the majority party in legislative yuan should form the cabinet and select the premier and cabinet ministers. Their lawmakers currently have to resign to enter the cabinet, this shouldn't be the case. Semi-Presidential system allow for lawmakers to be cabinet ministers as well like France.

ROC government under constitution is meant to be interpreted as a semi presidential system but that is not explicitly written out in print.

The constitution does not clearly define whether the president is more powerful than the premier.

 

[neddy]

Only USA & Taiwan in Presidential system are truly democratic countries

There is no truly democractic countries in this world. USA do not even come close - because when people choose not to vote, the system fails.
Biggest BS I heard so far. There is always a pre-selection.
Strange that no one mention about Pinoy?

 

[Sideswipe]

They saw how well it worked for the Aussies, just like how the secret ballot is invented by them as well.

I don't know how well AV worked for Aussies, maybe you can explain that.

anyway British Liberal Democrats advocated proportional representation for decades, today they accept referendum to change electoral system to AV - a more solid form of FPTP. it makes no sense.

 

[jw5]

Leader of the majority party in legislative yuan should form the cabinet and select the premier and cabinet ministers. Their lawmakers currently have to resign to enter the cabinet, this shouldn't be the case. Semi-Presidential system allow for lawmakers to be cabinet ministers as well like France.

ROC government under constitution is meant to be interpreted as a semi presidential system but that is not explicitly written out in print.

The constitution does not clearly define whether the president is more powerful than the premier.

Leader of the majority party in legislative yuan not equal to Chairman of the party?
Is it then the "Yuan zhang" or the leader of the house?
Yes, Zhu Lilun had to resign as Taoyuan mayor when he became vice premier. He then had to resign again to run for Taipei county mayor. :o
Even Premier Wu was a lawmaker when he resigned to become premier.

Constitution defines that president is responsible for foreign affairs and defence, premier is responsible for home affairs, finance, trade, education, transport, etc right?
In practice, since president appoints premier, the former is hence more powerful.

 

[Sideswipe]

Leader of the majority party in legislative yuan not equal to Chairman of the party?
Is it then the "Yuan zhang" or the leader of the house?

Yes, we mean the same thing. I generalize by using the word leader.

 

[Robert Half]

Presidential system vested all the authority in the president which may lead to tyranny. 80% of dictatorship governments past and present are presidential system.

ROC is constitutionally a semi-presidential system like France but Taiwanese run their govt based on the presidential system, ignoring their laws. e.g. the majority party in Legislative Yuan should form the cabinet but Ah Bian cheebye fuck care back then.

That why I like Ah Bian & DPP if sinkieland can run like Taiwan. It will be good.

 

[Char_Azn]

There is no truly democractic countries in this world. USA do not even come close - because when people choose not to vote, the system fails.
Biggest BS I heard so far. There is always a pre-selection.
Strange that no one mention about Pinoy?

In the US U have a choice of 2 assholes. Not much of a choice.

Try India. You get a wide variety of choices. Their voting slip is ridiculously long. Basically everyone on that slip is corrupted

 

[steffychun]

Really? Any news source?