Wayang Kulit haram?, Pigs And Islam

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VIVA.co.id - Netizens were shocked by a photo of a banner containing a ban on shadow puppet shows because it was not in accordance with Islamic law in Central Jakarta. The photo went viral and sparked responses from several figures, including a senior journalist and writer, Goenawan Muhammad.

Based on photos circulating on social media, the banner reads: Screening of Wayang Kulit Not Islamic Sharia. The bottom part of the banner reads Aliansa Muslim Community in Central Jakarta. The viral banner prohibiting shadow puppets was also monitored by one of the Heads of the Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) Executive Board, Saifullah Yusuf.

 

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Zan Azlee, The Malaysian Insider

I remember many years ago, I directed a documentary film about Dollah Baju Merah, the last classically trained wayang kulit dalang in Malaysia from Kelantan.

He has since passed on and I was the last person to officially interview him and to document his last wayang kulit performance on camera.

What I remember most about the interview was how he tried to explain to me his relationship with his art using a pig analogy.

During an election year, he thought he was being religious by voting for a religious party (guess what party?), But it ended with him being ostracized for practicing his art.


“Those whom I voted for declared that wayang kulit is haram because it has non-Islamic roots. And whoever practices it is committing a sin, ”he said.

“But let me explain to you about pigs. A pig is an animal created by God. The pig itself isn't haram. It's just an animal like any other animal in the world.

“The act of eating the pig is actually haram. Do not accuse the pig as being haram and neither should you accuse the person eating the pig. Do you understand what I mean? ”

I didn't really understand what Pak Dollah actually meant, but he was old and feeble, and I didn't want to aggravate him so I nodded as if I understood.

It was only after the entire shoot was over and I was back in Kuala Lumpur supervising the post-production and listening back to the interview that I understood.

What Pak Dollah was really trying to say was that whatever action or deed a person does only has meaning based on the person's intentions.

 

[A Singaporean]

Muslims truly pathetic.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

So even m&d traditions and culture is haram....that is rich

 

[duluxe]

So even m&d traditions and culture is haram....that is rich

Wayang kulit is indonesia culture. m&ds traditions and culture all erased long time ago by Islam, what left is ONLY nasi lemak. Their baju is actually derived from ancient indian dressing code. Very few m&ds retained native m&d name, Mas Selamat is one of the few.

Somehow wayang kulit artists managed to retain this tradition by conforming to requirments set by the authorities (actually religion policemen, Islam is the only religion in the world with religion police, so you know how complex the religion is). Female figures in wayang kulit have to put on hijab, and the tradition is arabized, so do we consider it as indon tradition or arab culture?

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Wayang kulit is indonesia culture. m&ds traditions and culture all erased long time ago by Islam, what left is ONLY nasi lemak. Their baju is actually derived from ancient indian dressing code. Very few m&ds retained native m&d name, Mas Selamat is one of the few.

Somehow wayang kulit artists managed to retain this tradition by conforming to requirments set by the authorities (actually religion policemen, Islam is the only religion in the world with religion police, so you know how complex the religion is). Female figures in wayang kulit have to put on hijab, and the tradition is arabized, so do we consider it as indon tradition or arab culture?

So m&ds have forsaken their own culture and replaced it with arab culture? Tat is sad ...like fuckeins and mandarin

 

[laksaboy]

Indonesia was a Buddhist country. Then the Muslims came along and destroyed all the fun.

Bali is the remaining sanctuary uncorrupted by their silliness.

 

[syed putra]

Wayang kulit was banned initially in kelantan first, the state with most wayang kulit tradition. PAS ( parti islam) and Muslim fundamentalist deemed it deviant art. In fact most of the other traditions have been killed by PAS.
Before these idiots came to power, joget, traditional dance was enjoyed by many.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Wayang kulit was banned initially in kelantan first, the state with most wayang kulit tradition. PAS ( parti islam) and Muslim fundamentalist deemed it deviant art. In fact most of the other traditions have been killed by PAS.
Before these idiots came to power, joget, traditional dance was enjoyed by many.

Sad that the traditions and culture has been destroyed

 

[syed putra]

Sad that the traditions and culture has been destroyed

And the Malays too scared to confront the clerics who did this. They are too scared to be branded heretic or deviant or worse, apostate.
The malay leadership are using race and religion to the max caus8ng all these to escalate..
Indonesia is different. When asked who his Hero is, jokowi answered Krishna because of his "panah sakti", or magical arrow. That is hindu myth. and jokowi is Muslim.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

And the Malays too scared to confront the clerics who did this. They are too scared to be branded heretic or deviant or worse, apostate.
The malay leadership are using race and religion to the max caus8ng all these to escalate..
Indonesia is different. When asked who his Hero is, jokowi answered Krishna because of his "panah sakti", or magical arrow. That is hindu myth. and jokowi is Muslim.

Look at the postings from your ah bangs,,the resident mudslimes...they seem happy to bend over and get shafted by the Arabs and to sacrifice their culture and traditions. No different to Fuckeins who embrace Mandarin and the Chicoms.

 

[viremia]

Look at the postings from your ah bangs,,the resident mudslimes...they seem happy to bend over and get shafted by the Arabs and to sacrifice their culture and traditions. No different to Fuckeins who embrace Mandarin and the Chicoms.

As if Cuntonese don't suck Tiong cock.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

As if Cuntonese don't suck Tiong cock.

Look at Hong Kong vs Fuckein Lands....u think Fuckeinland Taiwan will stand up to the tiongs? They support the status quo because it gives them some security from being attacked,,,and look at the fuckeins in singkieland,,,look at their attitude when dead fart close the fuckein schools etc..I spoke to many fuckeins about it,,,and they say its good,,because all speak the same language,,,and now singkieland mandarin and engrish is chap pa lang,,,

 

[duluxe]

Sad that the traditions and culture has been destroyed

We are more concern than m&ds on the preservative of their ramnant culture and traditions they borrowed from indonesia.