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Serious Uganda: Muslim father burns his daughter and vows to kill her for becoming Christian

nightsafari

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There is no orders or statement to do rituals in the Muslim holy book. How it came about is a mystery.
If Mohamed had indeed initiated Friday prayers for instance, I am sure the sermons would have been recorded and binded in a book.but that is not the case.
First few mosques had their "kiblat" facing all over the place unlike current ones facing Mecca. Even the one in Granada(spain) is not facing Mecca if it was a mosque in the first place. It could have been converted into a mosque later on.
All i know, Muslim started their conquest out of Arabia upon the death of Mohamed in 632 AD. And already, based on what historians say, those opposing armies that were captured and refused to convert were executed.
from my understanding of the quran, it's message has nothing to do with religion at all.
that's great info.

but what's going on now? what is considered to be Islam and done in Islam's name by Muslims today?
 

JohnTan

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Uganda: Muslim father burns his daughter and vows to kill her for becoming Christian

Moslems vowing to kill other moslems for becoming Christians is common in the 'no compulsion in islam' religion.

Muslims have long ago abandoned their own holy book. They have created another book called the hadith which they follow.

If their religion and quran was complete and perfect, then there is no need for the hadith. By their own actions, even the hardcore islamists admit that their religion is not complete. Moslems need the quran, the hadith and an islamic scholar to tell them what to do. Ignoring language barriers, moslems are not able to read and interpret the teachings of the quran for their own. They need a a second book and a priest to tell them what to do. This sort of religion still dare to call itself 'complete' and 'perfect'?
 

nirvarq

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Mohamad advised his followers to speak good to their enemies (2: 83), exhorted them to be patient (20:103) and said that “there is no compulsion in religion” (2:256). But that all changed drastically when he came to power.

Then killing and slaying unbelievers with harshness and without mercy was justified in innumerable verses.



The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “kill the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem”

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (9:3). Our God tells us to “fight the unbelievers” and “He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them” (9:14).

The Qur’an takes away the freedom of belief from all humanity and relegates those who disbelieve in Islam to hell (5:10), calls them najis (filthy, untouchable, impure) (9:28), and orders its followers to fight the unbelievers until no other religion except Islam is left (2:193).

It says that the “non-believers will go to hell and will drink boiling water” (14:17). It asks the Muslims to “slay or crucify or cut the hands and feet of the unbelievers, that they be expelled from the land with disgrace and that they shall have a great punishment in world hereafter” (5:34).

And tells us that “for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods” (22:19-22) and that they not only will have “disgrace in this life, but on the Day of Judgment He shall make them taste the Penalty of burning (Fire)” (22:9).

The Qur’an says that “those who invoke a god other than Allah not only should meet punishment in this world but the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to them, and they will dwell therein in ignominy” (25:68).

For those who “believe not in Allah and His Messenger, He has prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!” (48:13). Although we are asked to be compassionate amongst each other, we have to be “harsh with unbelievers”, our Christian, Jewish and Atheist neighbours and colleagues (48:29). As for him who does not believe in Islam, the Prophet announces with a “stern command”: “Seize ye him, and bind ye him, And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits! This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High. And would not encourage the feeding of the indigent! So no friend hath he here this Day. Nor hath he any food except the corruption from the washing of wounds, Which none do eat but those in sin.” (69:30-37)

The Qur’an prohibits a Muslim from befriending a non-believer even if that non-believer is the father or the brother of that Muslim (9:23), (3:28). Our holy book asks us to be disobedient towards the disbelievers and their governments and strive against the unbelievers with great endeavour” (25:52) and be stern with them because they belong to Hell (66:9).

The holy Prophet prescribes fighting for us and tells us that “it is good for us even if we dislike it” (2:216). Then he advises us to “strike off the heads of the disbelievers”; and after making a “wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives” (47:4). Our God has promised to “instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers” and has ordered us to “smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them” (8:12).

He also assures us that when we kill in his name “it is not us who slay them but Allah, in order that He might test the Believers by a gracious trial from Himself” (8:17). He orders us “to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies” (8:60). He has made the Jihad mandatory and warns us that “Unless we go forth, (for Jihad) He will punish us with a grievous penalty, and put others in our place” (9:39). Allah speaks to our Holy Prophet and says “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern against them. Their abode is Hell – an evil refuge indeed” (9:73).

He promises us that in the fight for His cause whether we slay or are slain we return to the garden of Paradise (9:111). In Paradise he will “wed us with Houris (celestial virgins) pure beautiful ones” (56:54), and unite us with large-eyed beautiful ones while we recline on our thrones set in lines (56:20).

There we are promised to eat and drink pleasantly for what we did (56:19). He also promises “boys like hidden pearls” (56:24) and “youth never altering in age like scattered pearls” (for those who have paedophiliac inclinations) (76:19). As you see, Allah has promised all sorts or rewards, gluttony and unlimited sex to Muslim men who kill unbelievers in his name. We will be admitted to Paradise where we shall find “goodly things, beautiful ones, pure ones confined to the pavilions that man has not touched them before nor jinni” (56:67-71).

As for women, the book of Allah says that they are inferior to men and their husbands have the right to scourge them if they are found disobedient (4:34). It advises to “take a green branch and beat your wife”, because a green branch is more flexible and hurts more. (38:44). It teaches that women will go to hell if they are disobedient to their husbands (66:10). It maintains that men have an advantage over the women (2:228).

It not only denies the women’s equal right to their inheritance (4:11-12), it also regards them as imbeciles and decrees that their witness is not admissible in the courts of law (2:282). This means that a woman who is raped cannot accuse her rapist unless she can produce a male witness.

Our Holy Prophet allows us to marry up to four wives and he licensed us to sleep with our slave maids and as many ‘captive’ women as we may have (4:3) even if those women are already married. He himself did just that. This is why anytime a Muslim army subdues another nation, they call them kafir and allow themselves to rape their women. Pakistani soldiers allegedly raped up to 250,000 Bengali women in 1971 after they massacred 3,000,000 unarmed civilians when their religious leader decreed that Bangladeshis are un-Islamic. This is why the prison guards in Islamic regime of Iran rape the women that in their opinion are apostates prior to killing them, as they believe a virgin will not go to Hell.

Dear fellow Muslims,
The behaviour of our Holy Prophet as recorded in authentic Islamic sources is quite questionable from a modern viewpoint. The Prophet was a charismatic man but he had few virtues. Imitating him in all aspects of life (following the Sunnah) is both impossible and dangerous in the 21st century.


https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/a-call-to-the-muslims-of-the-world/
 
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JohnTan

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Mohamad advised his followers to speak good to their enemies (2: 83), exhorted them to be patient (20:103) and said that “there is no compulsion in religion” (2:256). But that all changed drastically when he came to power.

It's in the moslems' religion. When weak, talk about love, peace, islamophobia and racism. When in majority or sizeable minority, be intolerant and persecute minorities.
 

JohnTan

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Whatever it is they are very jialat! I dunno wtf is hadith so the quran has been cursed to a new book?

Hadith is a collection of muhammad's sayings. It was compiled around 200 years after the quran by a persian moslem named Al Bukhari. His compilations, the hadith, are universally recognized by moslems as authentic. It's like quran part 2, even though moslems will deny it, including those who use the hadith in their daily islamic rituals.
 

nirvarq

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It's in the moslems' religion. When weak, talk about love, peace, islamophobia and racism. When in majority or sizeable minority, be intolerant and persecute minorities.


Let those who've never sinned throw the first stones. Who have never sinned would you prefer to be condemned or forgiven, helped and given a second chance, apply that to only Muslim and unforgiving to other simply means RELIGIONS separates us.

Unity and Oneness is power is Love is common sense anyone humane enough and not of very low IQ would know this. We're not born with an instruction manual 'Moslem' is just another name another religion of a certain country there are Chinese and Europeans and Others of different lands since before religions were a thing hence different religions.

Wake up fools !
 

JohnTan

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Let those who've never sinned throw the first stones. Who have never sinned would you prefer to be condemned or forgiven, helped and given a second chance, apply that to only Muslim and unforgiving to other simply means RELIGIONS separates us.

You can only be forgiven by Grace. If you do lots of good deeds and expect to be forgiven, it's self righteousness. Doing good deeds should be a reflection of a changed spirit, and not in hope of a heavenly reward. People enter paradise by forgiveness, not by demanding or expecting entry because they did enough good deeds.
 

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Thank god for atheism.....if there's any part of ur ideology or worldview that u don't like as u transit thru the years and phases of ur life,u can always change it or evolve.
 

JohnTan

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Thank god for atheism.....if there's any part of ur ideology or worldview that u don't like as u transit thru the years and phases of ur life,u can always change it or evolve.

Just like the CCP? Their version of communism in the 1950s is quite different from now.
 

JohnTan

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There is no orders or statement to do rituals in the Muslim holy book. How it came about is a mystery.
If Mohamed had indeed initiated Friday prayers for instance, I am sure the sermons would have been recorded and binded in a book.but that is not the case.
First few mosques had their "kiblat" facing all over the place unlike current ones facing Mecca. Even the one in Granada(spain) is not facing Mecca if it was a mosque in the first place. It could have been converted into a mosque later on.
All i know, Muslim started their conquest out of Arabia upon the death of Mohamed in 632 AD. And already, based on what historians say, those opposing armies that were captured and refused to convert were executed.
from my understanding of the quran, it's message has nothing to do with religion at all.

Islam practiced in the 7th to 9th century is quite different from islam practiced after that. During the first 200 years, they didn't have the hadith. And even after compilation, it still took time for people to acknowledge the hadith as quran Part 2. So that also debunks the islamists' tale about their religion being the same from the start. It never was.

Most people also still think that persia was also shia moslem because of the ayatollah regime today. But persia iran only became shia in the 16th century due to a shia sect seizing political power and converting the sunni moslems to shia by the sword. After decades, the persians forgot that they were once sunni moslem, who in turn also forgot that they were once zoroastrians.
 
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