TT - a surely dead swine by now if no 4 corner

[uncleyap]

It is clear to me now that TJS & TKL are not the winner already. And TCB's supports came from the more subtle or closet anti-LEEgime people which before poll had indicated nothing at all. Only after poll that we will know. Half of them from 60% and half from 40% I think.

As it is, it is clear that TT would had been a surely dead swine by now 1am 28.Aug, in the lack of a 4 corner.

This is so clear already, and if we had a primary election to pick one Tan out of 3 to fight TT, then TT is a dead swine.

Fuck this 4 corners!

 

[goldenmonkey]

Hi Uncle, are you for democracy or anti-PAP alone?

 

[CPT (NS) BRANDON]

I blame Singaporeans for being stupid enough to allow themselves to be divided and conquered.

TJS allowed his self-interest to get in the way but he is not solely to blame. TKL and the other opposition members (including you UY) need to shoulder some responsibility too. TRE should get a big % of the blame.

The good news is that over 60% of Singaporeans OPPOSE cronyism, nepotism, cover-ups, elitism, and oligarchy. They OPPOSE the notion that Singapore can only be run by a select old boys' club (elite within the elite of the PAP) and their relatives.

 

[steffychun]

Yap, please join Gopalan Liar Nair in the debt ridden USA. There you can join Sarah Palin and her nonsense. They match your ideals.

 

[Sideswipe]

only a PAP man can beat another PAP man. almost.

PAP worst fears are internal splits within their ranks, not from the outside.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Yap Keng Hole can you just fucking shut up

No one cares about your drivel.

It is clear to me now that TJS & TKL are not the winner already. And TCB's supports came from the more subtle or closet anti-LEEgime people which before poll had indicated nothing at all. Only after poll that we will know. Half of them from 60% and half from 40% I think.

Fuck this 4 corners!

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Yap, please join Gopalan Liar Nair in the debt ridden USA. There you can join Sarah Palin and her nonsense. They match your ideals.

Sarah Palin is too good for a filth like Yap.

 

[CPT (NS) BRANDON]

only a PAP man can beat another PAP man. almost.

PAP worst fears are internal splits within their ranks, not from the outside.

Precisely. There were 2 times in history that the PAP was nearly brought to its knees.

The first was in 1959 when Ong Eng Guan, one of the most charismatic PAP leaders and Mayor of Singapore, quit.

The second was in 1963 when a large group of PAP MPs defected to the Barisan Socialis. This left the PAP with only a 26-25 majority in the 51 seat Parliament and they would have been voted out by a landslide had they not resorted to arresting the BS members.

The GREATEST fear of the PAP rulers and elites is for rebellion within the party. Hence, by logical deduction, the MOST EFFECTIVE way to bring about change in Singapore is to allow for a split within the PAP ranks.

A TCB Presidency would have heralded the beginning of such a split, with more PAP MPs being inspired to speak up according to their conscience instead of being cowed into submission by LKY's table banging, hellfire-and-brimstone antics.

 

[Varuna]

I blame Singaporeans for being stupid enough to allow themselves to be divided and conquered.

TJS allowed his self-interest to get in the way but he is not solely to blame. TKL and the other opposition members (including you UY) need to shoulder some responsibility too. TRE should get a big % of the blame.

I think these 3 candidates should make it easy for the anti-TT supporters to cast their votes. They knew the 4 corner was a ploy to give TT advantage. Would it be easier for say 1 over million of anti-TT supporters to coordinate among themselves to come into agreement on putting their bets on one or for these 3 to spoil the TT's master's plan by turning the game into 2 corner. I would chose the latter as it is the most clear cut, simple and most effective move to make TT history from the very start.

 

[CPT (NS) BRANDON]

I think these 3 candidates should make it easy for the anti-TT supporters to cast their votes. They knew the 4 corner was a ploy to give TT advantage. Would it be easier for say 1 over million of anti-TT supporters to coordinate among themselves to come into agreement on putting their bets on one or for these 3 to spoil the TT's master's plan by turning the game into 2 corner. I would chose the latter as it is the most clear cut, simple and most effective move to make TT history from the very start.

Exactly. The rulers of this country know that the unprecedented sentiment AGAINST their rule is new and raw. The anti-oligarchs have not been able to mobilise or organise, with people still associating the country's power structure with party affiliations etc. The thing is, the oligarchs are a small group, but they are a united group. The opposition (including PAP, SDP, WP, NSP, RP, SPP and more than 60% of the voters) is so fragmented and disorganised that it is easy to confuse and divide them.

 

[myfoot123]

It is clear to me now that TJS & TKL are not the winner already. And TCB's supports came from the more subtle or closet anti-LEEgime people which before poll had indicated nothing at all. Only after poll that we will know. Half of them from 60% and half from 40% I think.

As it is, it is clear that TT would had been a surely dead swine by now 1am 28.Aug, in the lack of a 4 corner.

This is so clear already, and if we had a primary election to pick one Tan out of 3 to fight TT, then TT is a dead swine.

Fuck this 4 corners!

Nobody can tell right? If only Tan Cheng Beng can be a little tougher and less softer. If only Tan Cheng Bock has displayed so deep a passion as TJS, I would have voted for him. But....he kept changing stance throughout the campaign. Even before the result, nobody can guess TCB will get as much as TJS. Than again, Tony Tan would have lost even in a 4 corner fights. Nothing is certain.

I suspect the new citizens have caused TT victory, if he won. Singaporeans by and large are not very pleased with PAP policies.

 

[depeche]

All these result must be within PM prediction...

 

[steffychun]

Sarah Palin is too good for a filth like Yap.

Ok, Rick Perry

 

[uncleyap]

I blame Singaporeans for being stupid enough to allow themselves to be divided and conquered.

TJS allowed his self-interest to get in the way but he is not solely to blame. TKL and the other opposition members (including you UY) need to shoulder some responsibility too. TRE should get a big % of the blame.

The good news is that over 60% of Singaporeans OPPOSE cronyism, nepotism, cover-ups, elitism, and oligarchy. They OPPOSE the notion that Singapore can only be run by a select old boys' club (elite within the elite of the PAP) and their relatives.

Since margin is to tiny, I need to state for the record that I am regretful to have called for votes for TJS instead of TCB, because that could had tipped TT. However, TCB's supportive population was not obvious enough to show up, his rally Boh Seng Lee. - Any SMC in a GE also can have that kind of size of crowd in other words something like 1/87th of his support only had shown up to show face and show support. I they had shown up, and crowd size larger than TJS, I would had voted TCB myself and called people to vote him as well.

I say TCB's supporters are very subtle peasants , the are the silent Singaporeans who in their hearts already felt that LEEgime can not be permitted to continue. But they would however show nothing on the surface. I also say that the TCB supporters are those who fear the aggressive reformists. They just an Ex-LEEgime or Old-LEEgime to revert back to the good old times, they reject the present-LEEgime.

HOWEVER, I don't side with these people, and I do not need nor expect their support.

I aim only for a tiny minority who are willing and are capable to overcome the remains of LEEgime, and by paying the necessary price achieve the wanted result. We can not cater for too many people, it is a luxury to attempt that. LEEgime is a minority ruling these (peasant) majority. We only need another minority sufficient to overcome them while the majority (peasants) would just watch sitting on the fence fearfully.

Most political changes are done this way, ballots are just the tokens, sacred only to those people who believe in them.

 

[uncleyap]

Hi Uncle, are you for democracy or anti-PAP alone?

I think the word Democracy represent an overly kind form of idealism which is getting more remote and unaffordable by each day past on this planet. I am realistic. Very realistic. Democracy intended to treat every human very kindly and it does so by neglecting the reality - the hard reality that fast and fatally depleting resources on the planet had already been hopelessly over-drafted by over-population of human. Planet earth can no longer afford human to survive and mess extinction is a definite result.

Democracy & Human Rights are impossible ideas, and it will be too late to learn but however the truth that these ideas and the wrongful implementations of them had caused directly and indirectly over the past century or so, the merciless mass extinction that our children would have to brutally face - inevitably. It is not obvious but very surely true because the overpopulation is a result of human treating themselves too kindly and exploiting the planet's resources to fulfil these myopic objectives.

As for now, the more we dream to pamper ourselves with these fluffy and noble ideas the more deeper we are set to quicker perish. I am too realistic to accept these ideas.

 

[kukubird58]

hahaha....in a 1 to 1, a baboon would have scored more than 60% and won hands down against tt.......
this is no cock talk but borned by fact.........in 1993, cky; an unknown who did not campaigned at all,
scored 40+%.....since then the anti-establishment sentiment had increased.

if kukubird can see this....of course papee can also see better.....
what do they do?
they issue COE freely to tjs, tkl, tcb......
the minute all 3 of them took the bait......tt is home and dry; albeit a close shave which served to illustrate
the extent of anti-papee sentiment.

 

[bakaroo]

Dr Tony Tan won by a 0.34 per cent margin, or 7,269 votes. He secured 744,397 or 35.19 per cent of total valid votes, while Dr Tan Cheng Bock received 737,128 or 34.85 per cent of the valid votes. Mr Tan Jee Say got 529,732 votes or 25.04 per cent and Mr Tan Kin Lian obtained 103,931 or 4.91 per cent of the votes.

If TKL had pull out, his votes 103,931 or 4.91 percent will goes to TJS or TCB which means TCB should be the 7th President.

 

[MightyMouse]

Dr Tony Tan won by a 0.34 per cent margin, or 7,269 votes. He secured 744,397 or 35.19 per cent of total valid votes, while Dr Tan Cheng Bock received 737,128 or 34.85 per cent of the valid votes. Mr Tan Jee Say got 529,732 votes or 25.04 per cent and Mr Tan Kin Lian obtained 103,931 or 4.91 per cent of the votes.

If TKL had pull out, his votes 103,931 or 4.91 percent will goes to TJS or TCB which means TCB should be the 7th President.

TKL earned the right to the contest. TJS DID NOT. He is just a puppet made used by the govt. And the naive unemployed rabble rouser, decided to contest to enjoy the limelight and chose not to see that his moves are all orchestrated by the govt. His stupidity will be remembered for a long time to come.

 

[methink]

TJS is more qualified than TKL in all ways. MightyMouse you are a puppet made used by the PAP.

Please see the long term. TJS is now a known name in politics. He can stand in any GRC and win.PE is but a goal to an end. The bigger goal is GE2016. PAP will never hope to beat TJS, Nicole, etc... This is the opposition strength.

Every exposure is the PAP downfall.

 

[MightyMouse]

TJS is more qualified than TKL in all ways. MightyMouse you are a puppet made used by the PAP.

Please see the long term. TJS is now a known name in politics. He can stand in any GRC and win.PE is but a goal to an end. The bigger goal is GE2016. PAP will never hope to beat TJS, Nicole, etc... This is the opposition strength.

Every exposure is the PAP downfall.

To fulfill the long term goal of winning 2016, he should have stopped at the nomination stage and not go further. By being made used of, he shows what kind of selfish person he is. His betrayal of a mentor and supporter will be remembered.