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Sultan of Sulu occupying Sabah land demanding rent

kingrant

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What do you guys think of this developing event? I just dont understand why Sabah (and Malaysia) should pay rent to this clown.



February 26, 2013 12:54 pm
Manila tells sultan to end Sabah stand-off
By Roel Landingin in Manila
©Reuters
Jamalul Kiram III is asserting what he says is his clan's historic right over Sabah
Philippine president Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino has threatened a Muslim clan leader with prosecution if he fails to end the armed occupation of a fishing village in neighbouring Malaysia.
“If you choose not to co-operate, the full force of the laws of the state will be used to achieve justice for all who have been put in harm’s way,” Mr Aquino said in a televised speech on Tuesday. His words were aimed at Jamalul Kiram III, one of the claimants to the ceremonial title of Sultan of Sulu, whose 180 relatives and followers have been in a stand-off with Malaysian security forces for two weeks.
But Mr Kiram and his followers, who hail from a remote island in the southeast Philippines, looked set to defy the president’s warning. His spokesman, Abraham Idjirani, said the sultan would not issue an order for his followers to return home from Sabah until the Malaysian government agrees to discuss their demand for recognition of their historic property claims on Sabah.

“They will not move unless there is a principled understanding and agreement,” Mr Idjirani said in a radio interview minutes after Mr Aquino issued his appeal.
The two-week impasse threatens to entangle the Philippines and Malaysia in a fresh diplomatic dispute, and unravel a peace deal that Kuala Lumpur helped broker between Manila and a Muslim separatist group in the southern Philippines, analysts warned.
Mr Aquino said the stand-off also puts in jeopardy the jobs of several hundreds of thousands of mostly Muslim Filipinos working as temporary workers in Sabah.
The sultan’s followers arrived in the coastal town of Lahad Datu, in the northeastern part of Borneo, on February 9 to assert their right to stay in what they consider to be their historic property, said Mr Idjirani. About 30 of the sultan’s followers are believed to have weapons, and they are prepared to fight if removed by force, the spokesman added.
The Kiram royal family’s claims to Sabah stem from its acquisition by the Sulu sultanate in the 17th century, as reward for helping the Sultan of Brunei to quell a rebellion. Later Sulu rulers ceded the territory to the British trading companies, which, in turn, transferred sovereign rights over Sabah to Britain in 1946. When the British granted independence to the Federation of Malaysia in 1963, Sabah was one of the territories turned over to Malaysia, which continues to pay a token rent to the heirs of the Sulu sultan to this day.
Mr Aquino has warned the sultan that he could be pursued for violating Philippine laws against provoking war or exposing Filipinos to reprisals, unless he orders his followers in Sabah to withdraw. “We have not yet reached the point of no return, but we are fast approaching that point,” he said.
 
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andyfisher

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mudland m&ds i thot quite garang, why they never move in and take this nutjob out?

its overdue we have some fighting in this region.
 

Batok Seri

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Aquino relieved that Sulu making claim against Malaysia not them.

But the Flips cannot support the claim because if successful with the Malaysians, the Sulu Sultan will have precedent to ask the Flips for return of other land which is in the Philippines.

The treaty was signed with the colonial powers long ago. The Spanish and the Brits both recognize the Sulu Sultanate. But now that both Malaysia and Philippines are independent, so Britain and Spain out of the picture, who to claim from?

Malaysia has been paying RM5200 annually to the Sulu Sultan. Very cheap.
If they agree to pay current market rate then every old but ongoing treaty must adjust for inflation and current going rate then Singapore water price must also go up..

i think the Sultan of Sulu will be happy with a one off payment amount undisclosed...
 

andyfisher

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I think the pinoys diam diam stand one corner watch the fun.

hope the m&ds do somethg, it will be exciting to see sme action.
 

bullfrog

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It goes back to when M'sia brokered a ceasefire and treaty between the MILF and the Pinoy govt. So in a way, it's the Pinoy Muslims who are trying to get back at the m&ds, trying to stir up trouble between the Aquino govt and Najib's.
 

andyfisher

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I quite disturbed by the acronym MILF, hehehe

maybe the moro big brother dont watch porn one lol :biggrin:

Pls mudland, deal with this pinoys, and clear them off, sabah got a lot of potential to develop.
these cumstains only make life difficult for people la.

dont be indecisive m&ds, chop chop do your job, jgn relak one korner :biggrin:

It goes back to when M'sia brokered a ceasefire and treaty between the MILF and the Pinoy govt. So in a way, it's the Pinoy Muslims who are trying to get back at the m&ds, trying to stir up trouble between the Aquino govt and Najib's.
 

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http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-pacific/2013/03/20133141728737880.html


Malaysia raids Sabah village to end standoff
At least 10 reportedly killed in clashes on Malaysian island, occupied by armed clan from Philippines.

A Filipino clan leader who occupied a Malaysian village in island of Sabah with nearly 200 followers has said Malaysian police opened fired at them, reportedly killing at least 10 of its members.

Raja Muda Abimuddin Kiram, the leader of the armed group, told Al Jazeera's Jamela Alindogan on Saturday that authorities fired at them in an apparent bid to end the three-week standoff that threatened to complicate the relations between the two countries.

Alindogan reported she "could hear gunshots [in] the background", when she talked to Kiram on the phone.

However, there have been no official confirmation from the Philippine and Malaysian government.

Members of a Muslim royal clan, who call themselves the 'Royal Sulu Army', from the southern Philippines landed in a coastal village in Sabah on February 9 to claim the territory as their own, citing ownership documents from the late 1800s.

They ignored appeals from Philippine President Benigno Aquino III to leave immediately or face prosecution at home on charges of triggering armed conflict.

The group claimed that they made the decision to occupy the Sabah village in protest of Philippine government's continued indifference to their claim.

Mar Roxas, the Philippine interior secretary, said that according to the Philippine police attaché in Malaysia, the police in Sabah fired warning shots. Roxas had no reports of any casualties.

On Tuesday, Aquino urged Kiram's brother in the southern province of Sulu, Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, to order his followers to return home and called their action a "foolhardy act'' that was bound to fail.

The standoff elevated the Sabah territorial issue, which has been a thorn in Philippine-Malaysian relations for decades, to a Philippine national security concern.

The crisis erupted at a crucial stage of peace negotiations, brokered by Malaysia, between the Philippine government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, the largest Muslim rebel group in the southern Philippines.

Aquino has said that the standoff may have been an attempt to undermine his government on the part of those opposing the peace deal, including politicians and warlords who fear being left out in any power sharing arrangements.

The Malaysian government continues to pay

The Philippines this week sent a navy ship with social and medical workers off Lahad Datu while trying to persuade the Filipinos to return home.

A Filipino clan leader who occupied a Malaysian village in island of Sabah with nearly 200 followers has said Malaysian police opened fired at them, reportedly killing at least 10 of its members.

Raja Muda Abimuddin Kiram, the leader of the armed group, told Al Jazeera's Jamela Alindogan on Saturday that authorities fired at them in an apparent bid to end the three-week standoff that threatened to complicate the relations between the two countries.

Alindogan reported she "could hear gunshots [in] the background", when she talked to Kiram on the phone.

However, there have been no official confirmation from the Philippine and Malaysian government.

Members of a Muslim royal clan, who call themselves the 'Royal Sulu Army', from the southern Philippines landed in a coastal village in Sabah on February 9 to claim the territory as their own, citing ownership documents from the late 1800s.

They ignored appeals from Philippine President Benigno Aquino III to leave immediately or face prosecution at home on charges of triggering armed conflict.

The group claimed that they made the decision to occupy the Sabah village in protest of Philippine government's continued indifference to their claim.

Mar Roxas, the Philippine interior secretary, said that according to the Philippine police attaché in Malaysia, the police in Sabah fired warning shots. Roxas had no reports of any casualties.

On Tuesday, Aquino urged Kiram's brother in the southern province of Sulu, Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, to order his followers to return home and called their action a "foolhardy act'' that was bound to fail.

The standoff elevated the Sabah territorial issue, which has been a thorn in Philippine-Malaysian relations for decades, to a Philippine national security concern.

The crisis erupted at a crucial stage of peace negotiations, brokered by Malaysia, between the Philippine government and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, the largest Muslim rebel group in the southern Philippines.

Aquino has said that the standoff may have been an attempt to undermine his government on the part of those opposing the peace deal, including politicians and warlords who fear being left out in any power sharing arrangements.

The Malaysian government continues to pay

The Philippines this week sent a navy ship with social and medical workers off Lahad Datu while trying to persuade the Filipinos to return home.
 
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