Spoiling your vote

[kakowi]

A voter will deliberately spoil his/her vote if neither the PAP nor the opposition creates any value.

My question is:

Will spoiling the vote help the PAP and the opposition to be more voter-focused?

 

[leetahbar]

A voter will deliberately spoil his/her vote if neither the PAP nor the opposition creates any value.

My question is:

Will spoiling the vote help the PAP and the opposition to be more voter-focused?

NO. many others do not even got the chance to cast their votes. in terms of ratio, spoiling the votes only aid PAPS. then again, opps should be prudent to put credible candidates instead of any tom, dick and harry.

 

[guavatree]

NO. many others do not even got the chance to cast their votes. in terms of ratio, spoiling the votes only aid PAPS. then again, opps should be prudent to put credible candidates instead of any tom, dick and harry.

chao ah kwa PAP dog old fart faggot fake monk

for steal temple donation money, bashing your own father bcos he threw away your gay porn, con other ppl property, cheat and told lies after lies after lies after lies after lies!!!

haha karma bounced and karma kicked your fucking karchng!

after your fucking kidneys kaput your doctor said you need amputation bcos of your diabetes ..LOL

did you asked your PAP MP goodie 2 shoe to get discounts for you for your amputation ... LOL

knowing your fucktard behavior and con you will also ask for free clutches and motorized wheelchair liao ... LOL

 

[jw5]

A voter will deliberately spoil his/her vote if neither the PAP nor the opposition creates any value.

My question is:

Will spoiling the vote help the PAP and the opposition to be more voter-focused?

kakowi
I don't think it will.
The ruling party are too sure of themselves and the opposition parties are too stretched and under-resourced to bother to analyse such things. Such stats will not be analysed in the end and people who spoil their votes will not have any impact at all.
It is simply a reflection of the individual's choice or the unwillingness or inability to make a choice.

 

[Wisely]

kakowi
I don't think it will.
The ruling party are too sure of themselves and the opposition parties are too stretched and under-resourced to bother to analyse such things. Such stats will not be analysed in the end and people who spoil their votes will not have any impact at all.
It is simply a reflection of the individual's choice or the unwillingness or inability to make a choice.

I agree. It won't make any difference. The point is to reduce PAP votes, not increase spoil votes. Focus on the point.

PAP has already tapped all the talent it can. Their ministers are the best they can offer. The Opposition fails to tap talent because they can't convince them that there is hope in the road. Why is this so? Answer is simple.

 

[kiwibird7]

A voter will deliberately spoil his/her vote if neither the PAP nor the opposition creates any value.

My question is:

Will spoiling the vote help the PAP and the opposition to be more voter-focused?

In the first past the post election, the candidate with the most votes wins. Spoiling one's vote is in this case is aiding the incumbent and the PAP are so full of themselves that they would just ignore all the spoilt votes.

Spoiling one's vote is as effective as NOT VOTING, having a walkover, or an opposition party walking out and boycotting Parliament eg Barisan Socialis.

The Barisan Socialis has really done a GREAT disservice to S'pore by allowing the entrenchment of a one party state and S'poreans ignorance on voting and a weaken opposition thereafter.

Casting a spoilt vote is a COP OUT and squandering one's sacred right to vote. There are many others who are dying to vote but NEVER get the chance.

 

[angie II]

The ruling party are too sure of themselves and the opposition parties are too stretched and under-resourced to bother to analyse such things. Such stats will not be analysed in the end and people who spoil their votes will not have any impact at all.
It is simply a reflection of the individual's choice or the unwillingness or inability to make a choice.

after checking out dis forum n reading ur post... i guess dey won't be complacent the way dey use 2 be...

 

[kakowi]

okay, thank you for your posts...

there seems to be no way to get the opposition to act in concert...some of the supporters seem to be grudging each other a bit of spotlight as though there is only 1 seat in contest instead of 84(?) seats...plenty to go around with each having their own focus and all having a common platform...yet how to communicate this message to them? Perhaps to tell them not to assume that wanting an opposition means taking them in

there also seems no way to tell the current PM LHL and his team that their current track record can be much much better...and question is will spoilt votes help them to do a self-analysis on how they can do better vs their constant self-absorption on how they can increase their benefits and our costs

in short, these are the options: vote PAP, vote opposition, spoil votes, do not turn up on election day (illegal) or migrate.

of these, spoiling the vote - if the message is sent and received - is better

the world of voters is best improved by a system of checks-and-balance and for that we need viable opposition, but it can also be improved by a competent A* team of PAP politicians who will ask themselves if it is neccessary to prove how competent they are by striking a new path from the LKY-standard

and if spoilt votes can do that, go for it; if not, then back to vote PAP, vote opposition grind which has not done anyone any good and at the way things go, not likely to do any better in the coming election

 

[zhihau]

kakowi
I don't think it will.
The ruling party are too sure of themselves and the opposition parties are too stretched and under-resourced to bother to analyse such things. Such stats will not be analysed in the end and people who spoil their votes will not have any impact at all.
It is simply a reflection of the individual's choice or the unwillingness or inability to make a choice.

i second this notion. a vote against the incumbent would serve more purposes.

1, being unhappy with their current policies; 2, being more supportive of a more diverse demography within the Parliament.

 

[leetahbar]

i second this notion. a vote against the incumbent would serve more purposes.

1, being unhappy with their current policies; 2, being more supportive of a more diverse demography within the Parliament.

would u vote SDP if your ward is a fight between paps & SDP only?
under chiam's reign, many would. sadly that was only for one term. sdp after the departure of chiam has since lost badly with deteriorating voters' supports.

would the party DARE TO CHANGE? change they did .....only from bad to worst.

 

[cleareyes]

A voter will deliberately spoil his/her vote if neither the PAP nor the opposition creates any value.

My question is:

Will spoiling the vote help the PAP and the opposition to be more voter-focused?

the topic of spoling the votes aint a new one, however, who would benefit from spoiled votes?

spoiled votes wont vote pap out, instead, spolied votes would mean oppostion gets lesser support. the better way is to encourage more votes for opposition and remove the advanage from pap's ground support.

 

[kakowi]

From a voter's perspective, the issue is not about voting PAP out or the opposition in.

It is about having a good ruling party and a viable set of checks and balance in place.

Voting PAP has not resulted in a better style of governance.

Voting opposition has not resulted in an opposition eager to create value for voters.

Thus the question: what will result in the current PAP being a better ruling party? What will result in an opposition more keen to realize their responsibility to voters?

Since the old technique of vote PAP or vote opposition does not work, the question is: will spoiling the vote as a show your feelings to both PAP and the opposition create a better PAP and opposition?

If not, what will?

 

[Porfirio Rubirosa]

Based on present ground realities, if you wish to try to encourage change (emphasis on the word "try"), than if you have the chance to vote at the next GE, you should vote oppo regardless of who the oppo is, even the proverbial 'bicycle thief' will do, perhaps even better as this shall be the ultimate smack in PAP's arrogant face.

This appears to be the ONLY true palpable single act that you can show to the overwhelmingly dominant PAP government. Until and unless there is a generally more level politicaly playing field, this appears to be the only effective constructive way forward. That is why I shall never take WP's Yaw Shin Leong seriously after he disclosed that he proudly voted for PAP Teo while at the same time publicly canvassing for the public's vote against PAP.

Alternatively, you could perhaps follow Dr Chee's extra parliamentary/constitutional NVCD route, but that is not the route I would personally choose based on present ground realities.

Further in the alternative, emigrate to greener pastures and perhaps return as a cherished FT by the PAP government.

But please if you do get a chance to vote be it GE or PE, do not spoil your vote because this would a futile waste for obvious reasons.

Since the old technique of vote PAP or vote opposition does not work, the question is: will spoiling the vote as a show your feelings to both PAP and the opposition create a better PAP and opposition?

If not, what will?

 

[kakowi]

That will be using the vote solely to register dissatisfaction of the PAP.

If that will make a better PAP, then certainly it is a viable alternative.

This will leave the question of whether that will give a worthwhile opposition in Parliament.

If I adopt this point of view, I will answer either "Take it one step at a time. Get them into Parliament and this will encourage others to come in" or "Make a better PAP first, and a better opposition second".



As for the SDP, they would have made a good choice if they had remained in the business of politics instead of revolution.


Migration?!?

 

[zhihau]

would u vote SDP if your ward is a fight between paps & SDP only?

be it any political party contesting, i'd still not void my vote. spoiling a vote doesn't give a clear indication that we're unhappy with the current policies. by voting for any alternative party, the purposes i've mentioned earlier are still fulfilled.

 

[zhihau]

Further in the alternative, emigrate to greener pastures and perhaps return as a cherished FT by the PAP government.

heheh...

i concur :p:p:p

 

[zhihau]

Migration?!?

evolution more likely, look at the avatars... we've got many animals in the house already :p:p:p

 

[kakowi]

if i may add to that, voting in the SDP will encourage them that it is possible to win in the GE

thus leading them to be more of a mainstream party

 

[kakowi]

evolution more likely, look at the avatars... we've got many animals in the house already :p:p:p

you are right there...back to humans

 

[guavatree]

PAP dog trying very hard to rope in others into your pack!

chao ah kwa fake monk retard is promoting the evil PAP ideology

the ballless temple thief wants others to joint him on a PAP leash!