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Southeast Asia's Belt and Road rail hopes beset by delays

Froggy

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https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/B...1&pub_date=20211111190000&seq_num=20&si=44594

Southeast Asia's Belt and Road rail hopes beset by delays
Only small fraction of Thailand's segment completed after 4 years

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A rail line from Kunming, China, to Vientiane, Laos, is slated to open on Dec. 2. But other parts of the pan-Asia railway face setbacks. (Photo by Vientiane Times)
MARIMI KISHIMOTO, Nikkei staff writerNovember 11, 2021 02:41 JST

BANGKOK -- Much fanfare greeted a Chinese plan to connect Southeast Asia through more than 3,000 km of high-speed rail when it arrived in Thailand in 2017. But on the ground near one of its many pieces, the project has so little visibility that a train station attendant struggled to find it.

"A construction site for high-speed rail?" the mystified attendant in Nakhon Ratchasima, a two-hour drive north of Bangkok, said last month. "I don't know where it is."

The site, only about 100 meters from an existing rail line, had been graded but no rails had been laid. Nor is this the only delay for a project touted as a centerpiece of China's Belt and Road infrastructure initiative.

The rail network, variously referred to as the Kunming-Singapore Railway or the Pan-Asia Railway, is supposed to begin in Kunming in southern China and snake through Southeast Asia, ending in Singapore. Once completed, it would give China an artery to move goods and people from a landlocked province all the way to the tip of the Malay Peninsula.

In Thailand, the 250 km stretch between capital Bangkok and Nakhon Ratchasima was designated as the first segment. The groundbreaking ceremony in December 2017 was attended by Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha and other senior officials. But after nearly four years, only 3.5 km of rail has been laid.


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Nowhere to go: A section of rail in Thailand's Nakhon Ratchasima province had yet to be laid in October 2021. (Photo by Marimi Kishimoto)

The first section was supposed to go into operation this year. Now the start date has been pushed back to 2026, according to the latest schedule by Thailand's Ministry of Transport.

Because of delays, the second section connecting Nakhon Ratchasima with the Laotian border will not go into service until 2028. The project to build the section going south from the Thai capital to the Malaysian border has been put on hold.

"Construction has been delayed because Chinese engineers can't enter the country due to COVID, as well as delays in land acquisition," said Pichet Kunathamaraks, deputy director-general of the transport ministry's Department of Rail Transport.

The section connecting Kunming and the Laotian capital of Vientiane -- the only segment whose construction proceeded on schedule -- is due to begin service Dec. 2.

China led that phase and covered 70% of the costs. The segment was completed in roughly five years.

Elsewhere, setbacks have been frequent. Plans to build the 350 km segment linking Singapore and the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur were officially halted in January. The two countries formally agreed to the construction in 2013, but former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad froze the project in 2018.

Despite efforts to renegotiate the terms of the project, the parties could not come to an agreement before the December 2020 deadline.

For the Malaysian segment connecting the city of Kota Bharu in the north to Port Klang in the west, less than a quarter of the construction had been finished by the end of August. Completion is expected to be pushed back by a year from the current target of the end of 2026.

The delays will sway the profitability of the various segments, which rely heavily on Chinese financing. Laos estimates that it will take 30 years after starting rail services to pay back the debt for building the line within its border. But that projection depends on receiving enough income from connections to surrounding countries. The spotty construction of the remaining segments will virtually guarantee that ridership will be weak.

Some have expressed concern that Laos may be unable to pay back the loans and fall into a debt trap, in which China will take over the rights on a key piece of infrastructure.

But for China, too, the ambitious rail project would lose strategic value as a major logistics artery if it remains incomplete. With the Chinese economy showing signs of slowing, there are indications that Belt and Road projects will not be immune to budget scrutiny. How long China will continue to provide financial assistance is unclear.
 

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Down to SEA is insignificant to China, only SEA countries want be part of it they pay themselves... more important ones are to Europe, ME and not India...

India can use cow carts....

 

congo9

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Why do you need high-speed rail to bring forth economic activity?
It should be left to the natural of human activity to populate and rejuvenate the inner land.

Why do they have to artificially inject steroid into a weak body so that they can perform better?
 

syed putra

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High speed rail only works between two densely pack cities that lies below 1000km.
So a 320km/ hr train can reach its destination within 3 hrs.
And because it's so expensive to build, you need to run the service Every few minutes and expect trains to be packed.
Plus high speed tracks cannot be used by heavy cargo trains during off peak. That means need yo pay another track just for cargo and lower speed rail.
Best is a 240km/ hr locomotive for asean. It's fast enough, cheap, plus locomotive can be used to pull cargo as well, not just passengers st high speed.
 

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MARIMI KISHIMOTO, Nikkei staff writer
Another scornful Jap reporter talking shit on Asia..

Why don't the Jap media talk about the progress made in the India-japan high speed rail project? Last heard they missed another dateline.. oh dear...
 

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Why do you need high-speed rail to bring forth economic activity?
It should be left to the natural of human activity to populate and rejuvenate the inner land.

Why do they have to artificially inject steroid into a weak body so that they can perform better?
The central Asia region is impoverished and has been isolated for centuries .. it has the biggest potential for growth. To inject infrastructure to speed up development and reestablish the trade route to Europe is a smart long term plan. Of course along the way there will be multiple political risks .. but China has been making incredible progress with diplomacy with her neighbours.
 

syed putra

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The central Asia region is impoverished and has been isolated for centuries .. it has the biggest potential for growth. To inject infrastructure to speed up development and reestablish the trade route to Europe is a smart long term plan. Of course along the way there will be multiple political risks .. but China has been making incredible progress with diplomacy with her neighbours.
Thus region is impovetished because it does not lie in the trade routes,
In the old days, they were wealthy as it lies in the silk route. But maritime trade has killed off its potential. The new rail silk route trying to rekindle it. But it cannot match sea freight.
 

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Thus region is impovetished because it does not lie in the trade routes,
In the old days, they were wealthy as it lies in the silk route. But maritime trade has killed off its potential. The new rail silk route trying to rekindle it. But it cannot match sea freight.
When your ah neh bros choked up Suez Canal earlier this year it showed the vulnerability of relying on a sea route.

What's more .. building up Central Asia can industrialise previously underdeveloped countries and make new networks. Estonia is becoming quite a hot destination according to some of my ex colleagues
 

syed putra

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When your ah neh bros choked up Suez Canal earlier this year it showed the vulnerability of relying on a sea route.

What's more .. building up Central Asia can industrialise previously underdeveloped countries and make new networks. Estonia is becoming quite a hot destination according to some of my ex colleagues
One of those mega container ships is equivalent to tens of kilometers of rail coaches. Impossible for goods to travel by rail.


The train can take 300 container. If the stack it, 600.
One mega container ship can load 22000. No contest.
 

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One of those mega container ships is equivalent to tens of kilometers of rail coaches. Impossible for goods to travel by rail.


The train can take 300 container. If the stack it, 600.
One mega container ship can load 22000. No contest.
I can assure you don't have to sweat over financial viability of China government projects. There are battalions of abacus rattling autistic analysts behind the scenes checking projected costs vs benefits every day.
 

tanwahtiu

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China will lease lands in Xinjiang region areas to Taiwan to build twin cities... hokkien bastards can go cheat ME and Europe, setup tangki temples in Europe...
 

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One of those mega container ships is equivalent to tens of kilometers of rail coaches. Impossible for goods to travel by rail.


The train can take 300 container. If the stack it, 600.
One mega container ship can load 22000. No contest.

16,000ft us almost 5km
 

syed putra

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I can assure you don't have to sweat over financial viability of China government projects. There are battalions of abacus rattling autistic analysts behind the scenes checking projected costs vs benefits every day.
Currently those rail line between Europe and China have different gauges.
Unless china build a entirely new track using a single gauge, it will not be cost effective.and it has to be two tracks. One for each way. Currently its mostly one track in former Soviet republics.
Former Soviet republics uses Russian standard, Europe its own standard.
But if china proceed, it will be good for their economy as they have run out of new railroads to build in china. The high speed rail, i read only beijing to shanghai is profitable. A 4 hour ride.
 

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But if china proceed, it will be good for their economy as they have run out of new railroads to build in china. The high speed rail, i read only beijing to shanghai is profitable. A 4 hour ride.

There are spillover effects in the larger economy due to the presence of the HSR. It allows for the growth of satellite cities outside the main city. It creates a lot of new jobs and increases overall property value. A good example is the development of Taipei and its suburbs once their HSR was up and running.
 

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https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/B...1&pub_date=20211111190000&seq_num=20&si=44594

Southeast Asia's Belt and Road rail hopes beset by delays
Only small fraction of Thailand's segment completed after 4 years

https%253A%252F%252Fs3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com%252Fpsh-ex-ftnikkei-3937bb4%252Fimages%252F4%252F9%252F4%252F5%252F37335494-4-eng-GB%252FCropped-1636562094photo_SXM2021102900010438.jpg

A rail line from Kunming, China, to Vientiane, Laos, is slated to open on Dec. 2. But other parts of the pan-Asia railway face setbacks. (Photo by Vientiane Times)
MARIMI KISHIMOTO, Nikkei staff writerNovember 11, 2021 02:41 JST

BANGKOK -- Much fanfare greeted a Chinese plan to connect Southeast Asia through more than 3,000 km of high-speed rail when it arrived in Thailand in 2017. But on the ground near one of its many pieces, the project has so little visibility that a train station attendant struggled to find it.

"A construction site for high-speed rail?" the mystified attendant in Nakhon Ratchasima, a two-hour drive north of Bangkok, said last month. "I don't know where it is."

The site, only about 100 meters from an existing rail line, had been graded but no rails had been laid. Nor is this the only delay for a project touted as a centerpiece of China's Belt and Road infrastructure initiative.

The rail network, variously referred to as the Kunming-Singapore Railway or the Pan-Asia Railway, is supposed to begin in Kunming in southern China and snake through Southeast Asia, ending in Singapore. Once completed, it would give China an artery to move goods and people from a landlocked province all the way to the tip of the Malay Peninsula.

In Thailand, the 250 km stretch between capital Bangkok and Nakhon Ratchasima was designated as the first segment. The groundbreaking ceremony in December 2017 was attended by Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha and other senior officials. But after nearly four years, only 3.5 km of rail has been laid.


https%253A%252F%252Fs3-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com%252Fpsh-ex-ftnikkei-3937bb4%252Fimages%252F_aliases%252Farticleimage%252F8%252F4%252F4%252F6%252F37336448-3-eng-GB%252FCropped-1636563190photo_SXM2021110300006842.jpg

Nowhere to go: A section of rail in Thailand's Nakhon Ratchasima province had yet to be laid in October 2021. (Photo by Marimi Kishimoto)

The first section was supposed to go into operation this year. Now the start date has been pushed back to 2026, according to the latest schedule by Thailand's Ministry of Transport.

Because of delays, the second section connecting Nakhon Ratchasima with the Laotian border will not go into service until 2028. The project to build the section going south from the Thai capital to the Malaysian border has been put on hold.

"Construction has been delayed because Chinese engineers can't enter the country due to COVID, as well as delays in land acquisition," said Pichet Kunathamaraks, deputy director-general of the transport ministry's Department of Rail Transport.

The section connecting Kunming and the Laotian capital of Vientiane -- the only segment whose construction proceeded on schedule -- is due to begin service Dec. 2.

China led that phase and covered 70% of the costs. The segment was completed in roughly five years.

Elsewhere, setbacks have been frequent. Plans to build the 350 km segment linking Singapore and the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur were officially halted in January. The two countries formally agreed to the construction in 2013, but former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad froze the project in 2018.

Despite efforts to renegotiate the terms of the project, the parties could not come to an agreement before the December 2020 deadline.

For the Malaysian segment connecting the city of Kota Bharu in the north to Port Klang in the west, less than a quarter of the construction had been finished by the end of August. Completion is expected to be pushed back by a year from the current target of the end of 2026.

The delays will sway the profitability of the various segments, which rely heavily on Chinese financing. Laos estimates that it will take 30 years after starting rail services to pay back the debt for building the line within its border. But that projection depends on receiving enough income from connections to surrounding countries. The spotty construction of the remaining segments will virtually guarantee that ridership will be weak.

Some have expressed concern that Laos may be unable to pay back the loans and fall into a debt trap, in which China will take over the rights on a key piece of infrastructure.

But for China, too, the ambitious rail project would lose strategic value as a major logistics artery if it remains incomplete. With the Chinese economy showing signs of slowing, there are indications that Belt and Road projects will not be immune to budget scrutiny. How long China will continue to provide financial assistance is unclear.

This is a classic example of how an article misleads without overtly lying. It gives an impression that China has fucked up the whole show in Southeast Asia with poor project management and lousy relationship building. The fact of the matter is such teething problems in developing countries with corrupt government, poor quality labour and pushback from entrenched interest is standard fare expected and that is nothing unique to Chinese projects.

I find it quite interesting that after thrash talking China, the Nikkei conveniently did not mention how its own country fared in building rail infrastructure for third world nations. For e.g.:

India High Speed Rail (Mumbai-Ahmedabad) - Awarded to Japan in 2016, beset by endless problems and delays. Now earliest completion date is pushed back to 2028 (unlikely to be met based on almost nothing done as at 2021) Ironically if you read Nikkei reports on this, they pretty much pushed all the blame to the Indian government.

Indonesia Rail (Jakarta-Surabaya) - Awarded to Japan in 2019, haven't even manage to do anything for 2 years already kena played out by Indonesia, now want to change the entire specs so that it can serve as an extension to the soon to open Jakarta-Bandung high speed rail instead. Good luck in trying to get this completed before 2030.

Vietnam (Ho Chi Minh Metro) - Groundbreaking in 2008, up to now a total mess and nowhere near completion. Latest estimated earliest date of completion is 2024. The funniest thing is SCMP actually did a hit piece in 2017 laughing at the problems faced by the Hanoi Metro built by the Chinese and comparing with the supposed superiority of the Japan constructed Ho Chi Minh one. https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/busi...o-metros-one-built-japanese-and-other-chinese

End up the Hanoi one just commenced operations last week and the HCMC one still rotting there with no end in sight.
 

congo9

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Thus region is impovetished because it does not lie in the trade routes,
In the old days, they were wealthy as it lies in the silk route. But maritime trade has killed off its potential. The new rail silk route trying to rekindle it. But it cannot match sea freight.
It has been poor because it has not been developed.
Why it has not been developed since modern times ? Reason because sea route and air freight prove more stable, profitable and make more sense.

The land route will still be as poor , but it will make you friends.
 

syed putra

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There are spillover effects in the larger economy due to the presence of the HSR. It allows for the growth of satellite cities outside the main city. It creates a lot of new jobs and increases overall property value. A good example is the development of Taipei and its suburbs once their HSR was up and running.
The towns that highway bypasses in peninsular malaysia are slowly shrinking.
I reckon it will be the same with high speed rail. Besides high speed rail tracks cannot be used for cargo trains.
Fastest locomotive can go at 240km/ hr. I think for kl-sinkie, that is fast enough. A two hour ride, cheaper, plus tracks can be used for cargo trains.
 
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