Slot games, Casino Rewards & Privileges

[jjcc888]

Hi Bro Kia and JJcc...

What will happen to our Premier Card and our PD when our membership expires and we do not renew our membership?

Well going by bro slotmania's experience [tho' he's on SE], he said he was told to use up the PD within 2 months of his Premier Card expiry in June ie. by August ?
But ecclesiastes the teacher said to use up the PDs within ONE YEAR from the PA Membership Card Date - see previous page - BUT then he's a Paizza Gold member [in the elite group] !

My MBS Annual Levy expires on 4th August but my Diamond PA Membership expires only in October - should still be able to use up the PDs on Rooms, Gift Shop & Sweet Spot purchases, Rise, Pizzeria Mozza, Cut, Concerts/Show Tickets, etc ...
And do those FREE DAILY SWIPES for whatever promo they're having if desired [to me a waste of time bc I've YET to be lucky at any of these draws :( ]

Should be able to check with the PA Counter Staff on the EXACT LAST DATE that we can actually use up these PDs as very very low chance of being able to accumulate more points to get PDs in the same way as we did earlier if we're now contemplating MUCH FEWER Visits on DAILY LEVY only
Anyway I have less than 1k PDs balance with the amount of exchanged slot credit done and I'll be using some PDs to pay the balance Room Rate after deducting some Room Certificates for my coming Room Stays this Sat and the last Sun of July - so I don't have any worries of not being able to use up my PDs by Oct or after !

I DID ask whether we need to RETAIN any minimum number of points in our PA Membership Card when doing the Slot Exchange - was told just need to retain some PDs for meals in the Casino etc and that any POINTS already earned remains so FOREVER (it's only the PDs that get used up) - so I'm GUESSING if we're at WHATEVER Current Card Level now, we could simply get it RENEWED upon its expiry since we'd ALREADY EARNED the POINTS to get to that level (Up to us whether we choose to gain casino access by Annual or Daily Levy then ?)

 

[jjcc888]

Thanks JJcc for sharing. I will not renew my membership anymore...and I will be going up Genting Highlands too.....

I think one year with MBS is more than enough....the losses can build a mountain...very painful....and no more excitement anymore....the initial shiok has disappeared...gone with the wind...

I will nurse my losses and hopefully strike 4D or Toto to recoup my painful losses...Take care all Bro and Sis playing the One Arm Bandits.....please be careful and very careful....Good Luck for those who are still in the game....Good Luck Bro Kia and hope to hear you strike the Grand JP !!!

Well to me - no harm in renewing the PA Membership since it's FREE anyway
But not renewing the ANNUAL LEVY as will opt for the DAILY LEVY instead
Yes - the initial shiokness has somewhat disappeared with the unfriendly slots & lousy payouts

Will you be going up Genting for the Hen & Stag Night on 11 August with the FREE Rooms for 4 etc
Attractive free offer but think I'm too "old" for such - but it should be perfect for you younger ones
Wouldn't mind if they offer FREE Rooms at Resort Hotel [minimum 2-3N] then MIGHT consider Genting as a way of clearing some leave etc

I feel you have the 'wrong concept' on your losses (no offense) - we shouldn't be 'nursing' our losses as we should be gambling within our means with money that we can 'well afford to lose' as such [tho' losing ANY money is of course very painful especially if the money could have been spent elsewhere in a 'much better way' etc etc etc ]

Striking Toto/4D/Big Sweep [AND the Grand/Major JPs at slots] are mere Pipe DREAMS and shouldn't be taken TOO Seriously or Chased after
I felt that the way you played FFF hoping to strike the Grand JP is similar to CHASING some DREAM
We must remember always : We play for the FUN of the slots and getting the BIG JPs just a LUCKY BONUS ! Being so unlucky I've told myself to be contented with the MINOR JPs ! :o :p

BTW today FRIDAY I worked FULL DAY instead of my usual Half Day on FRI - as several of my colleagues are either on leave or on long mc and my boss asked whether I could work a full day instead so as to be able to cover some work etc
My secretaries were joking with me : they thought I'll be hitting MBS after work (as I normally would do on my Fri Half Days) and especially as I was dressed in an unusual orange top today (considered a 'good colour' for the casino ? MY good colours are black etc hahaha )

 

[jjcc888]

In the end, I lost all my savings and money earned (about $120K) and owed the banks another $150K. I took up the courage to confess to my wife and luckily she did not leave me. Instead, we work out a repayment package and paid off everything. Now, I don't gamble anymore and manage to start saving up as well.

I'm telling you guys my story because if you know it's just for fun, it's fine. It means that you are in control. But if you start exhibiting the behaviours that I was talking about, e.g. becoming moody towards your family members, going online to play free slots, etc. Then you are in danger of becoming an addict.

If yes, stop now before it's too late.

Thanks for sharing iconchia - the dangers of "losing" ourselves and our self-control etc !

I would have thought "going online to play free slots" perfect for those of us who love slots yet don't wish to chalk up any monetary losses here ... so long as we don't become crazy addicts as such here of course

IF we're blessed with very deep pockets (which I'm definitely not) losing at slots wouldn't cause any dent in our pocket and we could continue playing indefinitely !

However since most of us don't belong in this 'deep pocket category' [except maybe for bro Kia], we'll need to handle 'our playing style & expectations etc' or modify our playing pattern and capital to be able to 'continue being able to afford to indulge in this ultra-expensive hobby'

I confess currently I am getting rather 'jaded' with the state of things : not hitting any 'Good JPs' inspite of such long play, slots getting 'lousier & lousier by the day with fewer/no payouts and LOUSIER payouts/features giving rise to hardly any FUN or Shiokness

 

[Kia0042]

All your postings remind me of myself a few years back when I was visiting the jackpot rooms in either AA and CSC. I started playing in 2004 and played for about 3 years, visiting either of the places almost on a daily basis. There were some days when my wife is on business trips, I can be the first to arrive and the last to leave.

All your stories, I've encountered before - winning big jackpots, losing big money, win but stay on a lost somemore, everything. My biggest win, I remember was at AA, $60K but by then, the money won was just a fraction of my total losses. How much did I lose? Well, everytime I was there, I will play around 2K (that's the max of the NETS limit), and sometimes more when I go out to withdraw somemore money. Sometimes, I don't have enough, I will withdraw from credit cards/credit lines. Of course, there are times when I win, a few Ks here and there, but most of the time, I lost.

After a while, I begun to realise that it's not about the winning anymore. It's about watching the reels spin, listening to the music played when you hit a feature and colourful lights. It's about the process of playing that I enjoyed. It became such an obsession that like some of you here, I also go online to play. Ladbroke, William Hill, Betfred, etc. Contrary to popular belief, I actually won most of the time playing online. Biggest win was 20K pounds on a ladbroke slot. I also begun to realise that the habit is controlling my life. My mood of the day depended on whether I win or not. If I win, I'll be happy and be nice to my family members. But if I lose, which is often, I will become grouchy and moody. Naturally, my relationship with my wife suffered.

In the end, I lost all my savings and money earned (about $120K) and owed the banks another $150K. I took up the courage to confess to my wife and luckily she did not leave me. Instead, we work out a repayment package and paid off everything. Now, I don't gamble anymore and manage to start saving up as well.

I'm telling you guys my story because if you know it's just for fun, it's fine. It means that you are in control. But if you start exhibiting the behaviours that I was talking about, e.g. becoming moody towards your family members, going online to play free slots, etc. Then you are in danger of becoming an addict.

If yes, stop now before it's too late.

Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I started my game life when I first got my car, I had my AA membership in 1994. It has been 16 yrs and I am still playing. From AA, Country club membership, Cruise, RWS and MBS. I have not visit Genting for almost 20yrs and seldom go overseas.

It is definitely not a miracle or pure luck that I can survive until today, I work hard (maybe x2 or x3 harder than an usual person), and I play hard too. I also insist no card to game room and casino, cash only. I love slot but I have not reach that kind of stage, first to arrive and last to leave or absence from job or appointment.
It is important that every player should understand his/her way to minimize lose and have maximum fun, don't just 'chiong" blindly.

 

[theblackhole]

Dear Bro Ironchia,

Thank you for sharing. I do agree with you. It's time some of us stop. Bro Kia is a very experienced slot player. He knows when to quit and when to stay.....I think most of us simply will be drawn into a long losing battle with those one-armed bandits.

Thank you for sharing. Yes, it's time for me to stop. I wrote some time ago that I would stop...but GREED and temptation drew me into the den...even for a quick lunch break...but after the painful losses, I think I better STOP before it's too late.

Thanks Ironchia for sharing and your kind advice. Take care and Good Luck to all...Take care Bro Kia and thanks for all the wonderful memories and wonderful sharing of your experiences

 

[slotmania]

Well going by bro slotmania's experience [tho' he's on SE], he said he was told to use up the PD within 2 months of his Premier Card expiry in June ie. by August ?

Went to MBS today to give a treat using my PD at Mozza Pizzarie I checked with the counter staff at Skypark hotel desk and I was told that I have a balance of $360 PD which is correct and was told I have 760 points! I am not sure how I got the points as I have mentioned before, I had 0 points! now I have 760 points. As I am on SE, what can I do with the points? as for the PD $ i should them up by this month

 

[Kia0042]

You cannot use the points, it is an indicator of your card status.
888 Platinum Card
1888 Diamond Card.
So you need 128 points more to reach the Platinum card level.

 

[jjcc888]

I had a sea-view Horizon Premier Room on the 38th Floor for our Sat stay
This time round I more-or-less maximised my room stay as DIDN'T play at the casino until we'd checked out on Sunday (only went in for barely a minute just to check on the Mega-Numbers drawn for my friend who did her 'free' swipe earlier - before we did our Check-In on Sat )
After the Andrew Lloyd Webber concert which we enjoyed LOTS, my friend advised me against playing at the casino on Sat since the points aren't counted towards the Room Certificates

I played the slots from Sun 1pm till Mon 1am !!!
This time round it was FUN as there were several slots that 'behaved and paid out' during the 2nd Stage when I somehow just didn't want to leave after losing all at the 1st Stage within 2 hours [I had to do an ATM WD as had exhausted my meagre capital + slot credit]

Sunday's Star Slot for me was the Fafafa CSY 452
I had at least 5 repeated re-triggered Free Games here
My 2nd Stage capital grew to an above 1k ticket (more than the total Sun capital phew .... )
Of course by the end of the night I'd lost at least half of what was regained and chalked up some 66 points :o
Hmmm the CE Grand JP now 71k+ BUT the trains hardly come somehow :(
BUT at least there was the SHIOK Factor this time so not so bad inspite of losing some of the recouped losses etc

 

[jjcc888]

BTW this free online slot-game ASIAN BEAUTY has very nice graphics etc
https://gamingclub.gameassists.co.u...anBeauty&extGameID=AsianBeauty&BTAG=860984179

Have yet to try out all the various free online slots .....

 

[Kia0042]

A bad experience at MBS on Sunday, a big lost trip on early morning (4AM-11AM)
MOOD does MATTER, really. Always tell myself never get angry with machines, they are just machines afterall, they have no feeling. But why am I so mad over those 10cts CSY, 5Koi and 5Dragons yesterday, something must be wrong, and I think over again. Firstly, whenever i played 30credits (cover only the center line of last reel), I missed out x15 and x30 multiplier!
1 - CSY missed 5 Dragon x30 ($6,000),
2 - 5dragons missed 5 Qilin x15 ($2,400)
3 - 5koi missed 5Fu x15 ($2,400) !! fainted~~~~ .
Secondly, happened that my ATM cards were inside my pocket yesterday. I had both my ATM cards exceeded daily withdraw limit in "exchange" of 300pts, arrrghhh~~~
"vessel capsized in longkang" !!

 

[Mindless]

A bad experience at MBS on Sunday, a big lost trip on early morning (4AM-11AM)
MOOD does MATTER, really. Always tell myself never get angry with machines, they are just machines afterall, they have no feeling. But why am I so mad over those 10cts CSY, 5Koi and 5Dragons yesterday, something must be wrong, and I think over again. Firstly, whenever i played 30credits (cover only the center line of last reel), I missed out x15 and x30 multiplier!
1 - CSY missed 5 Dragon x30 ($6,000),
2 - 5dragons missed 5 Qilin x15 ($2,400)
3 - 5koi missed 5Fu x15 ($2,400) !! fainted~~~~ .
Secondly, happened that my ATM cards were inside my pocket yesterday. I had both my ATM cards exceeded daily withdraw limit in "exchange" of 300pts, arrrghhh~~~
"vessel capsized in longkang" !!

Dear Kia,
I can understand your madness. To look on the brighter side, if you had bought all the lines/columns, all the full house may not even appear.

I always feel that the system is programmed to tease you to buy all lines and play more. For eg, betting max will usually not get a good feature spin and when you drop your bet to 1 credit/line, the feature comes and the spin will be exceptionally good.

Thanks again for the frank sharing. As a seasoned player, I am sure you will come out stronger.

Cheers and Good Luck.

PS:
I am starting to enjoy the other manufactures' game. Recently I have tried WMS' Wiz of Oz, China Moon; and IGT's Crown of Egypt, Treasure of Troy etc.

I am starting to get sick of chasing for feature spin in 5K, 5D, FK and CSY by Aristocrat. I am scared of getting a feature and having to choose the game options and then having this regrets/doubt that I may have chosen the wrong options.

 

[Hedonist]

Hi guys. I have been following this interesting thread for a long time. I like to go to mbs , rws too but always lose. You guys are such regulars and spending lots of time on slots. Does your husband or wife say anything? Jjcc888 , does t affect your job and relationship? Just curious to know..

 

[theblackhole]

Dear Bro Kia,

I'm indeed very sorry to hear about your "madness" game. Sometimes, I got caught in such a mood and I've regretted it very painfully...and yes, I've also exhausted by two ATM cards....and went home a pauper several times. The loss is astronomical!!! And I don't know how to recoup other than applying total abstinence and SE!!! Thank you for sharing your experience with all of us. I hope you will take a break and perhaps return later with better luck.But I finally realise that in the long run, the slots will KILL all of us.They are programmed to tease, to entice and finally to KILL MERCILESSLY......I WILL NOT PLAY ANYMORE SLOTS ANYMORE....I PROMISE....

My membership is expiring and I will not renew my annual levy too....It's going to be a good-by to MBS - the hell-hole for many unwary Singaporeans.Many have fallen into the deep waters and many are now entrenched in the bottomless pit of hell. Many have become problem gamblers....and some have gone beyond and some have paid a visit to the King Of Hades.....It's a damned serious problem affecting the young and the old, the gainfully employed and the retirees....and it has also shattered families and broken many relationships....and it has caused much financial ruins. Gambling is really addictive.....and I hope Bro Kia's sharings and the frank postings from so many of our forumers here will WARN ALL OF US HERE about the dangers of addictive gambling.The social repercussions are immense...physically, mentally and socially.We will soon be total wrecks!!!!

Thank you JJcc,Mindless, CoffeeMe,Slotlosers and all Bros here for your frank and honest contributions. I've learnt alot - painfully though.And I will say good-bye to MBS and IRS. I've said it before, but I broke my promise because one good lucky streak...but that was another beginning of my slide into the hell-hole.

This is my second attempt...otherwise I have to seek professional help ....Thank You and please be very careful when you step into the Casinos.

Good Luck and Good Health to all those who are staying....I'm moving out....and I hope JJcc is moving out too...One year levy is a good lesson for most of us...but it's hell of a very expensive and painful lesson!!!

Cheers to all ....

 

[Kia0042]

Dear Kia,
I can understand your madness. To look on the brighter side, if you had bought all the lines/columns, all the full house may not even appear.

I always feel that the system is programmed to tease you to buy all lines and play more. For eg, betting max will usually not get a good feature spin and when you drop your bet to 1 credit/line, the feature comes and the spin will be exceptionally good.

I don't know if this theory is correct but it is definitely a good way to comfort own mind, Ah Q's behaviour, huh?

 

[Kia0042]

Dear Bro Kia,

I'm indeed very sorry to hear about your "madness" game. Sometimes, I got caught in such a mood and I've regretted it very painfully...and yes, I've also exhausted by two ATM cards....and went home a pauper several times. The loss is astronomical!!! And I don't know how to recoup other than applying total abstinence and SE!!! Thank you for sharing your experience with all of us. I hope you will take a break and perhaps return later with better luck.But I finally realise that in the long run, the slots will KILL all of us.They are programmed to tease, to entice and finally to KILL MERCILESSLY......I WILL NOT PLAY ANYMORE SLOTS ANYMORE....I PROMISE....

My membership is expiring and I will not renew my annual levy too....It's going to be a good-by to MBS - the hell-hole for many unwary Singaporeans.Many have fallen into the deep waters and many are now entrenched in the bottomless pit of hell. Many have become problem gamblers....and some have gone beyond and some have paid a visit to the King Of Hades.....It's a damned serious problem affecting the young and the old, the gainfully employed and the retirees....and it has also shattered families and broken many relationships....and it has caused much financial ruins. Gambling is really addictive.....and I hope Bro Kia's sharings and the frank postings from so many of our forumers here will WARN ALL OF US HERE about the dangers of addictive gambling.The social repercussions are immense...physically, mentally and socially.We will soon be total wrecks!!!!

Thank you JJcc,Mindless, CoffeeMe,Slotlosers and all Bros here for your frank and honest contributions. I've learnt alot - painfully though.And I will say good-bye to MBS and IRS. I've said it before, but I broke my promise because one good lucky streak...but that was another beginning of my slide into the hell-hole.

This is my second attempt...otherwise I have to seek professional help ....Thank You and please be very careful when you step into the Casinos.

Good Luck and Good Health to all those who are staying....I'm moving out....and I hope JJcc is moving out too...One year levy is a good lesson for most of us...but it's hell of a very expensive and painful lesson!!!

Cheers to all ....

Bro theblackhole, hope you keep your promise, just stay away from this 2 IRs, take care.

well, I went to MBS again last night and did not touch CSY and 5D. I just went to the Fast Cash 10cts 5K. Using my redeemed 450PD, bet only 30credits, I hit the feature game within 50 spins, it gave me cai x10, another 50+ spins came the 2nd feature game, hit red packet x15, another 200+ spins came the third feature game, it retriggerred 4x but payout was quite miserable. Nevertheless still able to "convert" my PD450 into cash $1,700. Cash out and proceeded to 2cts CE. Picked machine 213 FK, inserted in TITO ticket $1700 and managed to get only 1 feature game from this machine, finished up my 1.7k in 1hr and call it a night. A normal slot play day for me.
Sunday's crazy experience was a 5figures lost which is very rare, I will avoid repeating the same mistake again, just make sure cards are not in my pocket.

 

[slotmania]

You cannot use the points, it is an indicator of your card status.
888 Platinum Card
1888 Diamond Card.
So you need 128 points more to reach the Platinum card level.

I was a Platinum member for as long as I could remember. Today I made my return visit to DB bistro. Excellent food

 

[CoffeeMe]

Hi Bro BlackHole,
Thanks very much for your reminder. Yes, this kind of hobby is hell for such a shallow pocket sallaried man like us... From the way you discribe:
- i can tell u are a daily player
- u visit and lose alot
- Something always in your mind, which is "because yesterday i lost, today i'm going to win"
but many times, winning is just too early. So you stay on with a hope to win more and hopefully will win back what you have lost yesterday.
- However, luck is not always with us. It's up and down. So you start to lose again, and finally lost the first capital
- Bo gam nguan as you actually already won some $ earlier, you withdraw $ at ATM
- But luck is not on our side. lost again.
- withdraw the 2nd time, you might win some of the first withdrawal, but lost it all again.
- Somehow you forget, you have visited the same machine that night for more than once
- Then, you hope that machine that has made you win earlier will be the lucky star, but no... it is no longer friendly and keep eating up.
- Finally you realise u have lost alot. too much losing that night. too much pain. too much agony. Feeling so desperate.
- Worst thing about feeling, you want to quit but can’t do it.

Familiar with this story? Well, Thats exactly what i was going through

I’ve been losing since the last JP winning, can’t believe with it. but it’s true. my plan of bringing $300-500 grow to $800-1000 after 5th attempts of “to win back what i have lost yesterday”. Madness
The night when a gamblers lost too much (above the reasonable limit) is a very dangerous night for any gamblers. Especially when he drive. He will feels numb, tired and totally muddle-headed. I believe alot of gamblers that suicide is at this kind of feeling.Luckily i was able to reach home safely.

To be fair for other slot players, i think the only way to play right is to know what’s your losing limit. Just like drinking, we also know our limit right? any time i lost more than my limit i feel the agony and regret.
Thank you for bro Kia experience, I believe his limit is $2k and mostly he won by keeping his mood happy. I think out of 100 are only few can achieve this. Obviously not me... And Yes! you are right, going everyday is smothering. I have stop now

To date, i have not enter MBS for a week. Last Monday, is the last time i entered MBS. lost too much. Thinking to apply SE once i reach home. So i get into NCPG website right after. There i see alot of testimony video by other gamblers. There are more than one video. I should admit, it knocked my conscience of gambling hobby. If u guys free and feel floating like me, maybe should do the same. It might not help much, but the videos will give a quick realisation somehow.
Good day all. Those losing nights is just a lesson, lucky enough if u realise it now rather than too late. Dun dwell with it too much and stay happy

 

[Overtime]

Saw this lady at RWS Hollywood section today, banging loudly at the machines for the whole day, talking rudely to the staff, commanding them to look into this and that. Acts like she owns the place. Please .... go to the casino is to enjoy yourself ... not get mad at the machines.

 

[jjcc888]

Hi guys. I have been following this interesting thread for a long time. I like to go to mbs , rws too but always lose. You guys are such regulars and spending lots of time on slots. Does your husband or wife say anything? Jjcc888 , does it affect your job and relationship? Just curious to know..

Job : NOT AT ALL - why should it ?
I work as per normal & "mood/etc" not affected here
- rather it's the usual job stresses that 'affect' me during my working hours as I really don't have the time to attend to problems that crop up at work too [which on certain bad days could be lots] what with my regular full work schedule etc
We keep requesting that we be allowed some time daily to attend to such BUT somehow that doesn't seem possible with the huge amount of work here
Yes Kia - I work hard too during my 'special' working hours [and I HATE it when I have to leave AFTER/Later than my 5.30pm/1pm timings : bc most of the time I'd already have spa appointments etc all lined up ! ]

Relationship : None now as have already broken up with the bf some time back way BEFORE my joining the IRs - therefore I have Ample FREEDOM & TIME to do whatever & when I wish/desire
(BUT the ex-bf is fond of baccarat and I used to accompany him to the Gambling Cruise ships and the Poipet casinos etc - I DID play some slots then but not as "intensively or crazily" as now - these trips were like maybe 4-6x a year ?)
Hmmm ..... IF ONLY that [freedom/time] was accompanied by ample unlimited FUNDS too for ALL pursuits
We can then spend as much time as we wish at ultra-expensive HOBBIES etc without any worries of losing all savings or overspending etc etc etc :p
Yes : my mom and some of my friends DO say a lot about my casino-going hobby & want me to stop !!!

My FUTURE PLANS :
- no more frequent trips to the casinos
- just occasional trips such as once - thrice a month maybe - with fewer or less frequent trips maybe I'll be able to 'save up/accumulate bigger sum of capital' for more meaningful play rather than go several times per week with less capital (drips & draps) and mainly don't have 'satisfactory play' etc ? :o
- play more Free Online Slots (some are rather interesting too) so don't have to lose any real money here

Tonight Tues 19/7 : Spa appointment cancelled bc my therapist couldn't turn up for work due to some family emergency so I went to MBS instead after work
[Mon night : had gone to this other spa where I had 2 shiok pampering body sessions]
As usual Tues was NOT a Good Night - LOST as the slots I played hardly gave Free Games and when the Free Games did come, they were pretty horrible with lousy combinations/payouts - yes I DID do one ATM WD too
Fun factor NOT high at all : I knew exactly what I was doing - didn't like losing but NOT CHASING losses nor feeling desperate etc

 

[Equalisation]

I was a Platinum member for as long as I could remember. Today I made my return visit to DB bistro. Excellent food

Agree.

Their Baked Ocean Trout dish .... besh lah joe !!!:o