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Kia0042

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Forgive me for asking. These jp synicates can make money? I was under the impression that for jp, you confirm will lose money in the long run.

Their purpose is money laundry and not to make money. As far as I know, if a "client" (mainly corrupted officers) gives the money launder one million RMB, the client is usually satisfy with 10-20% clean money return. He can spend the 100-200k in China for lots of things but one millions RMB dirty money can only put under his bed.
Not I say want hor, it is a true report by a documentary made by DISCOVERY CHANNEL.
 

slotmania

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Today went in the afternoon and reached RWS at 1.00pm. Proceeded to the PS 5k 10c machine. Initially played 150cr and got some triggers and in one round 3 retriggers! However poor payout as my br was $2k and just about recovered. Then continued playing. After that retriggers, the machine started eating mode. Eventually gave back the $2k and forked out another $600. Played defensively of 60cr all the way, and no triggers for a long long time. Convert $150 gp$ and played from there. Machine warmed up and finally got 5 coins! Decided to go for 10spins. Got AFHx30! and another retrigger, that round paid handsomely $3.4k :smile: Then run run run! Made $500 after recovering br :biggrin:
 

JohnTKS

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Today went in the afternoon and reached RWS at 1.00pm. Proceeded to the PS 5k 10c machine. Initially played 150cr and got some triggers and in one round 3 retriggers! However poor payout as my br was $2k and just about recovered. Then continued playing. After that retriggers, the machine started eating mode. Eventually gave back the $2k and forked out another $600. Played defensively of 60cr all the way, and no triggers for a long long time. Convert $150 gp$ and played from there. Machine warmed up and finally got 5 coins! Decided to go for 10spins. Got AFHx30! and another retrigger, that round paid handsomely $3.4k :smile: Then run run run! Made $500 after recovering br :biggrin:

Excuse me for asking, if you play 150cr on the 10c machine that is $15 per spin. At 1000 spin per hour without the triggers and a BR of $2K that will last you 8 minutes. Am I right here.
 

justl00king

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Asset
May I ask you guys one simple question. If a machine was on autorun and stuck with a feature/bonus game, the player was nowhere to be found, what do you think the casino staff will do?
I witnessed twice such incidents where the machine were unattended for too long and someone reported to the casino staff to remove the less $5 balance credits. The staff did accordingly to the request and the "original" player sooner returned and saw his machine was played by other people and I learnt something from this 2 cases....
I have seen the players will get one of the staff to "jaga" the machine when they do toilet break.

But I reckon they have the right to remove the original credits if the machine is left unattended for too long.
 

justl00king

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Their purpose is money laundry and not to make money. As far as I know, if a "client" (mainly corrupted officers) gives the money launder one million RMB, the client is usually satisfy with 10-20% clean money return. He can spend the 100-200k in China for lots of things but one millions RMB dirty money can only put under his bed.
Not I say want hor, it is a true report by a documentary made by DISCOVERY CHANNEL.
10-20% returns seems pretty low.

Faster or more efficient way to do "washing" is to bet both sides on Baccarat with banker 5% tax. Don't really understand how these syndicates work and profit with chasing those JPs. :confused:
 

highroller777

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U guys think that rws slots are SBG? i think so as some days really bad like no free spin or payment at all while some days at least got in/out/in/out; can't be bad or good luck days, it's all tight or loose days; i'm quite sure it's sbg
 

Kia0042

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
10-20% returns seems pretty low.

Faster or more efficient way to do "washing" is to bet both sides on Baccarat with banker 5% tax. Don't really understand how these syndicates work and profit with chasing those JPs. :confused:

You are right but this is not Macau and it seems that the syndicate leader wants a long run "business" in Singapore and only RWS allows him to active till date.
 

JohnTKS

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10-20% returns seems pretty low.

Faster or more efficient way to do "washing" is to bet both sides on Baccarat with banker 5% tax. Don't really understand how these syndicates work and profit with chasing those JPs. :confused:

Yes washing in Baccarat is the easiest way. But Singapore is awfully awfully tight on money laundering. Macau is as simple as abc through the Junkets. Also they can get a further 1.5% rebate from the junket.
 

Kia0042

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Today went in the afternoon and reached RWS at 1.00pm. Proceeded to the PS 5k 10c machine. Initially played 150cr and got some triggers and in one round 3 retriggers! However poor payout as my br was $2k and just about recovered. Then continued playing. After that retriggers, the machine started eating mode. Eventually gave back the $2k and forked out another $600. Played defensively of 60cr all the way, and no triggers for a long long time. Convert $150 gp$ and played from there. Machine warmed up and finally got 5 coins! Decided to go for 10spins. Got AFHx30! and another retrigger, that round paid handsomely $3.4k :smile: Then run run run! Made $500 after recovering br :biggrin:

This 5K at smoking area is typically difficult to play and I don't recall I have ever win from this machine before. Just like JohnTKS said, it doesn't need to take long to finish 2-3k BR with $15 per spin. The one at Premium slot is more friendly.
 

Kia0042

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
U guys think that rws slots are SBG? i think so as some days really bad like no free spin or payment at all while some days at least got in/out/in/out; can't be bad or good luck days, it's all tight or loose days; i'm quite sure it's sbg

Those at PS are mainly SBG, I thought you know far long ago.
 

Kia0042

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
What's the meaning of SBG ????

Server Based Game.
They are connected to a central computer system.
Ability to change a slot machine's games, denominations, bonus payouts and promotions with a switch of a button.
Myth turns into reality, for years slot players have believed that the casinos could change the payback of a machine with the flip of a switch during weekends. With the SBG system this myth could actually become a reality as they can change the payback of the machines through the central system.
 

Kia0042

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
The easiest way to tell which machine is SBG- Just see the pay table or the screen on top of the machine, if it is a LCD display, it is a SBG.
 

justl00king

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Server Based Game.

The easiest way to tell which machine is SBG- Just see the pay table or the screen on top of the machine, if it is a LCD display, it is a SBG.
Thanks for the info, learnt something new again.

I initially thought SBG stands for Si Bei Giam! :p

No wonder, that could be the reason why I have always felt that the slots seem to be tighter on weekends.
 
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Kia0042

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
This sbg dont seems fair to players....:(

Many things in this world is not fair, not just SBG to slot players.
Why am I not born as an Emirati, beat people liao still can sue the victim and the person who took the video to jail! LOL.
 

slotmania

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This 5K at smoking area is typically difficult to play and I don't recall I have ever win from this machine before. Just like JohnTKS said, it doesn't need to take long to finish 2-3k BR with $15 per spin. The one at Premium slot is more friendly.

bro Kia, you are right. My experience also confirmed the smoking area 5k difficult to get good payout and I had experienced $2k with 60cr with NO trigger at all! :*:
 

jjcc888

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Friday while I was taking my lunch - suddenly had this 'feeling' and decided to go MBS to play slots :wink: :biggrin:
So called to cancel my Friday afternoon spa appointment
Had to do ATM WD [3k] as my last MBS balance BR was at home - this being an impromptu decision

Took N-S MRT all the way to Marina Bay then changed to Circle Line to Bayfront - 1st time trying this route
Usually would change at Dhoby Gaut - Promenade - then change AGAIN [more troublesome]

For this trip - the 2 Main Slots played were :
1. Machine 01109 - Kia's 5c 5D at the Fatt Choi area
2. Machine 00722 - 2c 5K near BankBusters

Entered MBS before 3 pm - saw for once that that 5c 5D was unoccupied - so settled myself there !
Started off cautiously - doubled 1st 2 $100 notes to $400+ TITO
then 1st $400 BR -----> managed to grow that to $1,701 - all within the 1st half-hour !!!
Then using total accumulated $800 -----> that $1,701 grew to over $2k in overall 45 mins
Spent 2 hours there and ended up Break Even after the usual Downs and fewer Ups

Decided against going home for dinner and stayed on

Went over to 00722 2c 5K where I pounced on it immediately after the last male player left :p
He left it in such a dirty slimey mess with cigarette ashes all over and sticky spilt beer !!!
Had to use a few Wet Ones to clean up everything - 'sterilise' the place before I can bear to place myself there :mad: :eek: :rolleyes:

I tried Max Bet [15x] for about very 1st time - with 1st few notes managed to get 3k ! :smile:
Usual Ups & Downs - very marginal minimal losses maintained until incurred ard $1500 loss by 7.30pm
Today I played LOTS of the time at 300cr and 150cr {hardly at 60cr}
With some nice re-triggers managed to almost recover {above $2,500}
Today this machine behaved itself
Altho' there were the usual Dry/Down Spells, somehow my play maintained at $1,900 - $2,400 levels
Got Give & Take - so was able to be 'stuck' here literally :o
In & Out my tito - in my bids to 're-activate' machine into better 'mood'
I only left this slot after midnight after printing out an almost $2.8k Tito [just $100+ short from my original $2900 BR and $100 levy]

Then itchy-backside, played this HOPELESS CSY at the 2c Fafafa area - no wonder it was unoccupied
Lost over $300 there !!!
NOT a single free game from it - got a Mini JP with usual 3 Pandas
THat's about the only BAD Slot among the 4 I touched on Friday-Sat AM !

Final 4th machine was the unoccupied Silver&Gold on my way out
Just put in a $100 note and it got doubled in the Free Games !

In all a satisfying trip as the loss was minimal ! :smile:

Hope I can wake up early tomorrow as will want to do Part 2 till levy expiry ! {altho' with an angry mother breathing down my neck !}
 
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