SIA vs Qantas who to believe?

[johnny333]

SIA has already cleared their A380 for operational use but Qantas is finding "problems".

Is SIA maintenance really much better than Qantas


Qantas makes more checks over A380 engine 'anomalies'

A Qantas A380 at Los Angeles International Airport (5 November 2010) Qantas jets have been hit by two separate engine problems in as many days

The Australian airline, Qantas, has said it has found "slight anomalies" on three Airbus A380 engines and is keeping its fleet of six passenger jets grounded for further checks.

Chief executive Alan Joyce said there "was oil where oil shouldn't be on the engines" of two of the super-jumbos.

Qantas was "trying to check what the cause of that would be", he added.

A similar engine broke apart in flight on Thursday, forcing a Qantas A380 to make an emergency landing in Singapore.

After the incident - the first since the aircraft came into service in 2007 - the airline began checking their Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines.

On Monday, Mr Joyce said engineers had found oil in three engines, which was unusual given that they were only two years old.
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We will take as long as it needs to in order that we are absolutely comfortable the aircraft is safe to fly”

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"These are new engines on new aircraft and they shouldn't have these issues at this stage, so it's given us indication of an area for us to focus into," he told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

"We are keeping an open mind on it but... We think it could have been a materials issue on the engine, or a design issue."

Mr Joyce said all of the airlines A380s would likely be grounded for at least another 72 hours.

"We still believe with the progress we are making - this is days not weeks - but we will take as long as it needs to in order that we are absolutely comfortable the aircraft is safe to fly," he added.

In an unrelated incident on Friday, a Qantas Boeing 747 - also equipped with Rolls-Royce engines - was forced to return to Singapore with an engine problem after taking off.

Mr Joyce said it was "not a safety issue" and that there were no plans to ground the airline's fleet of 747s.

Rolls-Royce, the British firm which makes the engines for the Qantas planes, saw its share price fall by nearly 5% on Friday.

 

[zack123]

SIA has already cleared their A380 for operational use but Qantas is finding "problems".

Is SIA maintenance really much better than Qantas

Of Coz la. Qantas use kangaroos while SQ has proper technicians....

 

[neddy]

How many Qantas planes have crashed in its 90 years history?

 

[newyorker88]

Even my Aussie friends ask me to stay off Qantas when I visit Aussieland.

 

[Ash007]

How many Qantas planes have crashed in its 90 years history?

Indeed, its also one of the few airlines that have not lost a plane in its history. I still remember they fixed a 747 in the states a few years back, even though it cost more to fix the plane then buying a new one just to maintain this record.

 

[syed putra]

Qantas have some serious tachnical and safety issues last couple of years, inlcuding their 737's, their airbus a330 and now, their a380.
I think there may be some one sabotaging their planes. Maybe a LEB working in their maintenance or cleaning units.

 

[po2wq]

SIA vs Qantas who to believe? ...

who 2 believe? ...

sia is world crass, world bestest, world lumpar 1 ... as ah 154th oways boast ...

u say leh? ...

 

[cass888]

Qantas have some serious tachnical and safety issues last couple of years, inlcuding their 737's, their airbus a330 and now, their a380.
I think there may be some one sabotaging their planes. Maybe a LEB working in their maintenance or cleaning units.

Maybe it's just the choice of engines. Does SQ use Rolls Royce ?

 

[Ash007]

Maybe it's just the choice of engines. Does SQ use Rolls Royce ?

I thought only can use Rolls Royce?

 

[cass888]

I thought only can use Rolls Royce?

There were two choices for 747s. Don't know about 380s though.

 

[Windsor]

Maybe it's just the choice of engines. Does SQ use Rolls Royce ?

SIA uses a slightly different variant of the RR Trent 900 engines for their A380-800 aircraft. Qantas opted for a slightly more powerful variant, the 972/B, whereas SIA operates the 970/B model. The difference between both engine may or may not have a telling effect. It all depends on the results of the ongoing investigations.

 

[Leongsam]

I thought only can use Rolls Royce?

That's the problem with many sinkies..... They "think" without really knowing anything!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aJzG6NMdJ_.c

Singapore A380 Engine Failure Forces Flight Return (Update3)
By Andrea Rothman - September 28, 2009 12:01 EDT

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A Singapore Airlines Airbus A380

Sept. 28 (Bloomberg) -- A Singapore Airlines Ltd. Airbus A380 bound for Asia returned to Paris after one of its four engines failed, the first time a mechanical malfunction forced an in-flight turnaround of the world’s biggest passenger jet.

Flight SQ333, with a crew of 27 and 444 passengers on board, left for Singapore at 12:35 p.m. yesterday. Two and a half hours into the flight, an engine message to the cockpit prompted a shutdown by the pilot, Singapore Airlines said today. The airline didn’t reveal the cause of the malfunction.

“While the aircraft is able to operate with three engines, the pilots decided to return to Paris as a precaution due to the long flight,” the airline said.

The A380 double-decker jet operated by Singapore is one of 19 in service. The craft is still in Paris, and affected passengers have been put up in hotels until alternate flights out of the French capital are found. The jet is being fitted with a new engine on the ground, the airline said.

The A380 is certified as safe to fly with only three of its four engines, which led the pilot to return to Paris, where trained mechanics and other ground personnel could address the issue, said Eric Heraud, a spokesman for France’s DGAC civil aviation authority. The Charles de Gaulle airport is equipped to accommodate the double-decker, wide-body A380.

Certified for Landing

Paris is one of 60 airports worldwide that will eventually be certified for the plane, which has a maximum takeoff weight of 1.2 million pounds (544 tons) and a wing area of 845 square meters (9,100 square feet). The plane can fit as many as 853 people in an all-economy class configuration.

France’s aviation authority estimates about one in 10,000 flights operated by the national carrier, Air France SA, suffers a problem with an engine that requires it to land before reaching the planned destination.

A380 planes can be fitted with either Rolls-Royce Group Plc Trent 900 engines or the GP7200 built by a joint venture between General Electric Co. and Pratt & Whitney, a unit of United Technologies Corp. Some 16 airlines have ordered A380s, and of the 14 airlines that have already made a choice on engine type, nine have chosen Rolls-Royce.

Choice of Engines

Rolls-Royce is working closely with the airline to investigate the reasons of the malfunction, a spokeswoman said. The company said the engine has proven highly reliable, with a dispatch rate, or number of times the aircraft has left at departure time, of 99.8 percent.

Singapore began serving the Paris route in June, offering daily connections. The company first began flying A380s in October 2007 as the first customer for the model.

Emirates Airline, the largest carrier in the Middle East, is the biggest customer for the plane after ordering 58. The airline now operates five A380s. Qantas Airways Ltd. has four in service, with another two scheduled for delivery this year and three in 2010.

Air France KLM Group’s Air France is scheduled to take delivery of its first A380 by the end of October, and will fly the plane between Paris and New York’s JFK airport. Deutsche Lufthansa AG’s first delivery was pushed back from 2009 to 2010.

Airbus delivered one A380 in 2007, 12 in 2008, and has committed to delivering 14 this year, after deferrals by several airlines forced it to drop down from 18 units. The company has a total order volume of 200 for the A380.

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Andrea Rothman in Paris at [email protected]

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Benedikt Kammel at [email protected].

 

[cass888]

That's the problem with many sinkies..... They "think" without really knowing anything!

Ah, Pratt & Whitney was the name I was looking for.

 

[rollingmon]

take qantas as ur own risk

 

[singveld]

singapore like to take more risk than qantas.
but both are safe.
but safest thing is not to fly with airbus and not to fly with plane using roll royces engine.
but still safer than driving.

 

[johnny333]

who 2 believe? ...

sia is world crass, world bestest, world lumpar 1 ... as ah 154th oways boast ...

u say leh? ...

Even if SIA has the best in-flight service, which they don't, one has to worry about their "safety" procedures.

When SIA had those technical glitches with their A380 flights, did they they suspend any flights to conduct investigations

After the Qantas incident, SIA took 24 to 48 hours to declare their A380 safe

If something does happen Sporeans we'll probably be told that it's an honest mistake, act of god,.....:(

 

[JayBee]

Indeed, its also one of the few airlines that have not lost a plane in its history. I still remember they fixed a 747 in the states a few years back, even though it cost more to fix the plane then buying a new one just to maintain this record.

This was 11 years ago, when a Qantas plane, QF1 overshoot the runway of the old Bangkok airport.

http://www.avweb.com/news/news/184281-1.html

Qantas has an impeccable safety record, especially if you are taking its 90 years old history as the world second oldest airline, plus the fact that its passenger volume is rather large.