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Shitty fight: toilet chairman vs hygiene chairman

laksaboy

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Hawker centres are an aberration as a result of our technocrats' ham-fisted urban planning habits.

This is the only authentic hawker culture:

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Also, there's no need to 'feel proud' about UNESCO's award. Anyone could do that with a little money. You patriotic gongkias might also want to check out the other nominees on the list. :cool:

https://ich.unesco.org/en/lists
 

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Forum: Cleanliness of public toilets still an issue​


SEP 15, 2021

The cleanliness of public toilets is still an issue that needs to be addressed.
If public toilets in Changi Airport and high-end shopping malls can be kept clean, I see no reason why the public toilets in some MRT stations, markets and coffee shops cannot be kept clean too.
Here, I am referring to the odour and cleanliness of the toilet area.
Both of these can be improved if the cleaners are given the proper equipment with proper instructions on how to use it to keep the air fresh and toilet bowls clean.
Supervisors should also inspect the toilets regularly throughout the work day.
Members of the public also have a role to play in helping to keep public toilets clean.

If it takes a campaign to instil in people the habit of helping to keep toilets clean, then I hope the authorities step in to make this happen. Now is also a good time, with the focus on hygiene during this pandemic.

Florence Veronica Minjoot
 

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Forum: Coffee shop patrons need clean toilets​

July 13, 2022

Why is it so difficult for coffee shop operators to keep the toilets clean?
When I go to a mall, generally all the toilets are clean, as are the toilets in hawker centres.
But coffee shop toilets in many parts of Singapore are generally in a deplorable state, and have been for years.
Coffee shop operators should be made responsible for toilet maintenance. They owe a social obligation to Singaporeans who patronise the coffee shops. They should not pass the buck on to stallholders or consumers.

Tay Chee Meng
 

Bacccarat

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Hawker centres are an aberration as a result of our technocrats' ham-fisted urban planning habits.

This is the only authentic hawker culture:

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Also, there's no need to 'feel proud' about UNESCO's award. Anyone could do that with a little money. You patriotic gongkias might also want to check out the other nominees on the list. :cool:

https://ich.unesco.org/en/lists
Yes. Love the good old days.

Even in mcD, you see spoilt brats standing on seats and tables. And their itchy hands will peel the styrofoam to litter the place.
Bunch of idiotic moronic asshole disgraceful parents.
 

LITTLEREDDOT

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Forum: Collect turnstile fees to keep coffee shop toilets clean​


JUL 18, 2022

Forum writer Tay Chee Meng questioned why it is so difficult for coffee shop operators to keep the toilets clean (Coffee shop patrons need clean toilets, July 13).
As customers of coffee shops are there only for a short period, usually not more than an hour, the toilets there are more for stallholders and their workers on the premises.
Other than basins for customers to wash their hands, coffee shop operators are not obliged to provide customers with free toilets.
It is also not fair to compare the cleanliness of toilets there with those in shopping malls as these are maintained by the property's managing agent.
It is not easy to operate businesses like coffee shops. The costs are high, including that for hiring workers to maintain and upkeep the premises.
A workable solution to maintain the cleanliness of toilets in coffee shops could be to install paid turnstiles at the toilet entrance. The entrance money could then be used to engage people to clean the toilets.

Priscilla Poh Beng Hoon
 

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Forum: Take operators to task if coffee shop toilets not clean​

July 20, 2022

I disagree with Ms Priscilla Poh Beng Hoon's suggestion of installing paid turnstiles at coffee shop toilets, and question her empathy for coffee shop owners instead of customers (Collect turnstile fees to keep coffee shop toilets clean, July 18).
It is in our laws that coffee shop owners have to keep toilets clean, safe and hygienic for the safety and health of the public.
They can be fined for not doing so, and this needs to be better enforced to ensure public health is secure.
Even if diners do not use these dirty and unsafe toilets, the stallholders are using them and this could lead to food contamination, especially if operators dilute the liquid soap in the toilets to save a few dollars. Those involved in food preparation must keep their hands clean.
It is time to take coffee shop owners to task and not allow the disgraceful state of dirty toilets to tarnish our otherwise clean and green nation.

Jack Sim
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World Toilet Organisation
 

laksaboy

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this Jack Sim really jiak pa bo sai pang go and create this WTO

He has the patronage of the PAP technocrats, otherwise this shitty organization would have never seen the light of day. :biggrin:

Once again, only lanjiao langs write to the Shitty Times forum. Priscilla Poh and Jack Sim, two lanjiao langs spotted. :cool:
 

laksaboy

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Daft Sinkies really like to be ruled like farm animals. Toilet turnstiles? Maybe scan a QR code when you enter and exit the toilet too? :rolleyes:

Not too long ago I saw a group of kindergarten kids taken out on a walk by their teacher, along the corridor of a HDB block. I saw that the group of children were tied to one another with a rope or cord or leash, probably to prevent them from running around. Is this what they do to kindergarten kids these days? :eek:

In civilized countries, there would be lawsuits. Sinkieland is far from being a civilized country, so business as usual. :biggrin:
 
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Scheme to improve cleanliness of coffee shop toilets in Jurong expands to 4 more estates​

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(From left) Ms Gloria Tan, executive director of the Public Hygiene Council, Ms Andrew Khng, deputy chairman of the Public Hygiene Council, Jurong GRC MP Xie Yao Quan, Senior Parliamentary Secretary Baey Yam Keng, Public Hygiene Council Chairman Edward D'Silva and Block 494 coffee shop owner David Tan pasting NTCH stickers at a toilet. PHOTO: LIANHE ZAOBAO
Nisha Rahim


JUL 31, 2022, 6:56 PM SGT


SINGAPORE - A new initiative to monitor and improve the cleanliness of coffee shop toilets in Jurong will now expand to four other areas in Singapore.
In August, it will be rolled out in four coffee shops in Punggol, Tampines, Potong Pasir and Sembawang, and run until October.
The Jurong pilot ran from May to July. It involved three coffee shops, where more than 10 community volunteers checked the cleanliness of toilets, alerted coffee shop operators about dirty washrooms, and educated users on good toilet etiquette.
The plan - a brainchild of the Neighbourhood Toilets Community Group (NTCG) - was announced in April when the Public Hygiene Council (PHC) launched the annual month-long Keep Clean, Singapore campaign.
On Sunday (July 31), Senior Parliamentary Secretary for Sustainability and the Environment Baey Yam Keng urged more coffee shops - including those that are part of a chain - to join the next phase.
During a visit to a coffee shop in Jurong, he said: "Ultimately, we want to enjoy a clean public toilet, especially with our ageing population. Many elderly folk still go to the coffee shop toilets, and it's one way to care for our senior citizens."
On Sunday, the results of a week-long poll involving 155 patrons at the three coffee shops in Jurong in July - conducted by PHC and Jurong-Clementi Town Council - were released.

About 86 per cent of those polled said they will use a toilet in one of the three coffee shops as they are clean.
The three coffee shops are Meetup@494 at Block 494 Jurong West Street 41, Get Together at Block 429 Jurong West Avenue 1, and PDSS 318 Food Cafeteria at Block 318 Jurong East Street 31.
As for suggestions to improve toilet cleanliness, the biggest proportion of respondents, or 47 per cent, said cleaning frequency needed to be increased. The next largest group, or 36 per cent, said public education is key to changing behaviour.


On what is meant by a clean and functional toilet, about 48 per cent said a dry floor and no unpleasant smell are a must, while 39 per cent wanted the infrastructure, such as the flushing system and taps, to be in working condition.
Jurong GRC MP Xie Yao Quan, who was with Mr Baey during the visit, said as more people patronise coffee shops, the expectation for cleaner toilets will only go up.
Meetup@494 operator David Tan, 56, said: "Previously, we would see some patrons using the toilet paper recklessly... but now,things are getting better after the constant reminders from community volunteers."


A shop owner in his 40s who wanted to be known only as Mr Ong said he visits the nearby Meetup@494 at least twice a day, and the situation has certainly improved.
He added: "I have been here for five years, and I can tell the difference. The floors are no longer wet."
There are several other ongoing initiatives to raise cleanliness standards in coffee shops and hawker centres.
Last year, the National Environment Agency said customers at public dining places would be required to clear their tables after eating. Enforcement action will be taken against those who do not comply.
First-time offenders will be given a written warning. Second-time offenders will face a $300 composition fine, and repeat offenders can face court fines, which can go up to $2,000 for the first conviction.
 

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So far I came across only 1 coffee shop which have to sense to place their toilet entrance facing outside and not facing the stalls.
 

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Two-thirds of S’poreans find public toilets either as dirty or dirtier than in 2020: Study​

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Some 91.31 per cent of customers said toilets in hawker centres and coffee shops needed “major overhauling”. ST PHOTO: RYAN CHIONG
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Gabrielle Chan

NOV 10, 2023

SINGAPORE – More than 66 per cent of Singaporeans said public toilets in hawker centres and coffee shops either remain as dirty as they were three years ago, when a survey was last conducted, or “have become much dirtier”.
This is according to an islandwide study conducted by the Singapore Management University (SMU) in 2023.
Additionally, about 60 per cent of respondents also said that efforts in cleaning up toilets in hawker centres and coffee shops ranged from mostly ineffective to completely ineffective; only 6 per cent of Singaporeans were optimistic about the efficacy of clean toilet campaigns.
According to the survey, the cleanest public toilets in hawker centres and coffee shops were found in Marina South, followed by Outram and Boon Lay. Marina South also ranked first in the previous two surveys conducted in 2020 and 2016.
The dirtiest toilets were in Pioneer, Ubi, and the area around the Singapore River. Tuas and Singapore River were voted the worst in 2020 and in 2016, respectively.
Titled Waterloo, the nationwide study conducted from August to September 2023 interviewed over 9,400 Singaporeans on their perception of public toilets at hawker centres and coffee shops.
More than 450 of the interviewees were workers at these coffee shops and hawker centres, while the rest were customers.

Public perception was measured using the Human Perception of Toilet Cleanliness (TCI) Index, where respondents rated their perception of public toilets on a scale of zero to 100: 100 represents the most positive perception of toilet cleanliness, and zero the most negative.
The survey found that the perception of coffee shop toilets measured at 46.84 on the TCI, compared with a more positive perception of hawker centre toilets at 65.60. In 2020, the perception of coffee shop toilets measured at 46.35, and hawker centres at 58.23.
Overall, 66.74 per cent of respondents said the cleanliness level of toilets in local hawker centres and coffee shops had stayed “just as dirty” or had become “much dirtier”, with only 22.18 per cent believing that cleanliness levels had improved.

As for the cleanliness levels in different types of toilets, those for the physically disabled were rated the cleanest at 54.28, followed by women’s toilets at 52.33, and men’s toilets at 49.73.
The dirtiest types of toilets were unisex, or shared toilets, rated at 36.14, a decline from 42.89 in 2020. The survey added that a large majority of these unisex toilets were located in coffee shops.
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“Having a clean toilet to use is a fundamental human right,” said Ms Rosie Ching, principal lecturer of statistics at Singapore Management University. She and 170 undergraduates conducted the survey. PHOTO: LIANHE ZAOBAO FILE
Toilets that were nearer to cooking facilities also tended to be dirtier than those farther away, with a difference of 15 points on the cleanliness scale. This correlation was also observed in 2020 and 2016.
Overall, the survey also found that men had better perceptions of public toilets (57.20) than women (42.02). Respondents who worked at the hawker centres and coffee shops also had better perceptions of these toilets than customers.
Some 91.31 per cent of customers said toilets in hawker centres and coffee shops needed “major overhauling”, rating them as “dirty”. In contrast, 70 per cent of employees said that the degree of improvement needed was “moderate”.
But 70 per cent of both customers and workers said they would not use the toilets in these places for passing motion, and 75 per cent of respondents said they would use the toilets in these areas only for urinating.
The survey was conducted by Ms Rosie Ching, principal lecturer of statistics at SMU, and 170 undergraduates, who were part of her Introductory Statistics X course.
They visited more than 2,200 public toilets at over 100 hawker centres and over 950 coffee shops around Singapore, and evaluated them on more than 100 variables including toilet bowl cleanliness, and floor dryness.
“Having a clean toilet to use is a fundamental human right,” said Ms Ching, adding that this study revealed the dirty state of many toilets, most of which are in proximity to kitchens and food-handling areas.
She added: “Food sanitation and toilet hygiene are strongly correlated.
“We hope that these findings will spur decisive and collective action to improve the state of public toilet hygiene and raise the level of cleanliness for food handlers at these premises.”
 

Loofydralb

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As long as the chinks are the majority in Singapore there is absolutely no way to improve hygiene standards.
Not only in Singapore, it's everywhere and it doesn't need to be a majority.
There probably is a critical number, I suspect it's 20%.
 

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The Unesco listing is an honour and we must strive to always be deserving of it.
Andrew Tan Chye Hee

What an anal statement. I think it's dishonourable to be proud of hawker culture. Dirty, cheap, cheat, an all it's negative traits.

I hope UNESCO rescinds it. It will be a sign of progress.
 

countryman

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What an anal statement. I think it's dishonourable to be proud of hawker culture. Dirty, cheap, cheat, an all it's negative traits.

I hope UNESCO rescinds it. It will be a sign of progress.
Talking about cheating, no wonder nasi padang are so expensive in hawker centres...
 

Loofydralb

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Talking about cheating, no wonder nasi padang are so expensive in hawker centres...
That's not an example of cheating. You went in with eyes wide open and everything is transparent.
A good eg of cheating would be the chink towkay fixing the weights.
 
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