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Sample Count BS - PAP is trying to steal the election

PTADER

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These results are too skewed to be believable.

When I see Jeanette getting only 28%

I begin to be suspicious.

There's nothing to be suspicious about. The sample count is the equivalent of straw polling only more accurate. This is because you are dealing with actual results without speaking directly to a person who may give answers that are different from his/her voting intentions .
 

winnipegjets

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There's nothing to be suspicious about. The sample count is the equivalent of straw polling only more accurate. This is because you are dealing with actual results without speaking directly to a person who may give answers that are different from his/her voting intentions .

That's bs. Here's why. Elections Department designate one ballot box and that is the box which will have the majority of PAP votes. That box is then used to for the sample count.

Listen to the bs why so called expert. Mind you, this guy is a psychology professor ...what is his expertise on politics?

[video]https://video-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xlf1/v/t42.1790-2/11966436_10153136054782934_541178908_n.mp4?efg=eyJ ybHIiOjM2MywicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=363&vabr=202&oh=d26569b9a414d16b6abdfed0e4ac19e2&oe=55F31E9E[/video]
 

soIsee

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That's bs. Here's why. Elections Department designate one ballot box and that is the box which will have the majority of PAP votes. That box is then used to for the sample count.

Listen to the bs why so called expert. Mind you, this guy is a psychology professor ...what is his expertise on politics?

[video]https://video-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xlf1/v/t42.1790-2/11966436_10153136054782934_541178908_n.mp4?efg=eyJ ybHIiOjM2MywicmxhIjo1MTJ9&rl=363&vabr=202&oh=d26569b9a414d16b6abdfed0e4ac19e2&oe=55F31E9E[/video]

Don't be a fucking retard.

Which box has more PAP votes they would not know ...unless they already know from the register who you intend to vote for and channel you to put your votes into a particular ballot box and take a sample vote from THAT BOX.

Eitheir way , the final count should shut you up for good.

Even with your most retarded brain ...unless PAP also has the crystal ball to know who is going to vote for who, will the above nonsense then apply.

Of course to you ....any nonsense in life appear as possible to you!LOLoOL
 

PTADER

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That's bs. Here's why. Elections Department designate one ballot box and that is the box which will have the majority of PAP votes. That box is then used to for the sample count.

It's obvious you have no idea of what sample counting is about and its intended purpose. You can call it bs and so on but the reality is that if it is cheating, etc the SGs of the opposition parties would have voiced out, complained and protested immediately. They don't need you or their supporters to take the lead or to point it out.
 

Cosmos10

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It's obvious you have no idea of what sample counting is about and its intended purpose. You can call it bs and so on but the reality is that if it is cheating, etc the SGs of the opposition parties would have voiced out, complained and protested immediately. They don't need you or their supporters to take the lead or to point it out.

The SDP has not accepted the result.

They have not spoken to the press even when approached.

They are waiting till they have results for all the constituencies that they contest to be announced before they speak to the press.

If the results for a big GRC like Holland Bt Timah has been announced at around midnight when it was around 2 am in the last election, something is fishy.

Can you imagine that the results of HBT GRC is known earlier and the result of Bukit Batok SMC is still not known as of now?
 

RandomNexus

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It's obvious you have no idea of what sample counting is about and its intended purpose. You can call it bs and so on but the reality is that if it is cheating, etc the SGs of the opposition parties would have voiced out, complained and protested immediately. They don't need you or their supporters to take the lead or to point it out.

Some folks need to speak out loud for their own sanity. Pls be kind. :wink:

If their loudness reveals their ignorance, let it be. Sampling science is too sophisticated to understand for them. Pls be very kind :wink: :wink:
 

soIsee

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Some folks need to speak out loud for their own sanity. Pls be kind. :wink:

If their loudness reveals their ignorance, let it be. Sampling science is too sophisticated to understand for them. Pls be very kind :wink: :wink:

Expect loser here to even understand this sort of science?

May be should go into what is the 95% confidence interval, the probabilty that PAP votes will exceed 60% final count at k=2? And what are the uncertainity factors, taking into account the various types of Ah Beng ...Ah Seng casting their votes?

Of course with Winnie the retard ...making it apear more complex is...

PAP out to cheat! LoLoLOLoL
 

winnipegjets

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Don't be a fucking retard.

Which box has more PAP votes they would not know ...unless they already know from the register who you intend to vote for and channel you to put your votes into a particular ballot box and take a sample vote from THAT BOX.

What an idiot you are!
PAP arrange for its supporters to go vote at a pre-determined time. Election official will direct the votes to those designated boxes.
100 vote sample to accurately predict the outcome of 100,000 votes is a big joke!
Eitheir way , the final count should shut you up for good.
No, it doesn't because this election is fraudulent.
 

winnipegjets

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Expect loser here to even understand this sort of science?

May be should go into what is the 95% confidence interval, the probabilty that PAP votes will exceed 60% final count at k=2? And what are the uncertainity factors, taking into account the various types of Ah Beng ...Ah Seng casting their votes?

Of course with Winnie the retard ...making it apear more complex is...

PAP out to cheat! LoLoLOLoL


Only idiots will accept that 100 vote sample can predict decisively a 100,000 vote count.
 

Cosmos10

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What an idiot you are!
PAP arrange for its supporters to go vote at a pre-determined time. Election official will direct the votes to those designated boxes.
100 vote sample to accurately predict the outcome of 100,000 votes is a big joke!

No, it doesn't because this election is fraudulent.

Bro @winni, i agree with you. This election is stolen.

They are recounting Aljunied GRC votes, now. Even though I am not a WP supporter, I am sad that the WP may just be left with one seat in Hougang.
 

winnipegjets

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The SDP has not accepted the result.

They have not spoken to the press even when approached.

They are waiting till they have results for all the constituencies that they contest to be announced before they speak to the press.

If the results for a big GRC like Holland Bt Timah has been announced at around midnight when it was around 2 am in the last election, something is fishy.

Can you imagine that the results of HBT GRC is known earlier and the result of Bukit Batok SMC is still not known as of now?

A fraudulent election indeed. As usual it is hard to find solid proof. That's why PAP gets away with it.

The best we could find is that the Returning Officer decided that the Sample Vote is predictive of the final result. 100 vote can tell you how 150,000 votes will behave?

And 100 percent accuracy! You believe that? Total BS!!!!!
 

wwabbit

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A fraudulent election indeed. As usual it is hard to find solid proof. That's why PAP gets away with it.

The best we could find is that the Returning Officer decided that the Sample Vote is predictive of the final result. 100 vote can tell you how 150,000 votes will behave?

And 100 percent accuracy! You believe that? Total BS!!!!!

Statistically, the population size (150k in your example) doesn't really affect the confidence interval that much. The main thing that affects confidence interval (aka margin of error) is the confidence level (almost everyone uses 95%) and the sample size (100 * number of polling stations). Most of the time, statisticians will just assume an infinitely large population, and this works well. If the population is small (say less than 100* number of samples), then the confidence interval will start decreasing very slightly. Also, if the actual result is far away from 50%, then the confidence interval starts reducing slightly too, but this is very small and since we often worry more about results near 50%, we mostly just assume 50%.

You can play around with the calculator here: http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

You will find that at 600 samples, the confidence interval is 4% for an infinite population. There is still a small chance (5%) of the actual result falling outside of the sampled results. Sampling, if done properly (i.e. truely random), has always been a very powerful predictive tool. It should be no surprise that just about all the final results fall within the confidence intervals of the sampled results.
 

xpo2015

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Those of you who voted.

Oppositions photos all looked ugly or not? PAP photos looked all clean and pure and white or not?
 

Sperminator

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since the confidence level falls within 5 percent... why do the sampling vote count? 0.1% or 0.01% win is still a win! and 5% margin of error is huge! So, my question is, why not just show the TRUE RESULT, but to have a sampling vote count of only 100??? why not a sampling vote count of 1000 or in the above case, 600 samples to make the level of confidence higher?

My point is, don't do the sampling vote count, just COUNT THE VOTES, and release the result.

then again, wishful thinking... check the orbat chart of the Elections' Department, it reports directly under the wing of the PMO!
 
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