• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

S’pore needs political reform, not a new social compact

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
our suggestion is again disruptive
you keep on taking about foreigners dominating our life here
this is utter rubbish
the core system is very Singaporean
we are in control
foreigners are here at our invitation
to help to contribute and to develop our nation
singaporeans are still in control
please don't spread rumours and lies...

Well said. I have added to your points.
 

winnipegjets

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Right now almost all Singaporeans have a roof over our head most having access to basic luxury like broadband internet, mobile phones and multiple vacations a year, we are one of the least corrupt countries in the world, one of the richest country in the world, unemployment rate is at 2%.

What bs are you spewing?
Ain't you aware of the shortage of HDB flats? And affordability as well?
Sinkapore's corruption has been legalized. Look at LKY ...he uses Istana like his palace ...a private affair like the launching of his latest book is held there ...an MP, yet he is entitled to 2 bodyguards to act as his personal helper. Ho Jinx blew tens of billions away and no one whisper on it. Shall I add more? You are being ripped off and you don't even know! Each scholar cost the taxpayers $68 million, from award to his death. There are about 400 active scholars and few hundred retired. The bill to taxpayers is a whopping $27 billion. What do we get from that? Mediocrity!
We are the richest? The median income of sinkee is $1700. You call that rich?

Our data is as good as Ah Tiong's data ...only fools believe in them.
 

escher

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
I see that hosanna sayer Leongsam going great guns on this thread and doing as usual, his public masterbating with
the pukes that he like
 

Narong Wongwan

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
have you forgotten the political reforms that brought us here today? if not for LKY reforming the colonial system, we will still be shitting in metal buckets as you like to point out.

50 years on, its time to move on.

is the system broken yet? not completely, but achieving only 1.2m out of 2.0m eligible votes is not a good report card. in PSLE parlance, its called a "C" grade.

Read my sig.
If not for all these tactics....the pap would have scored much much lower.
 

winnipegjets

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
our suggestion is again disruptive
you keep on taking about foreigners dominating our life here
this is utter rubbish
the core system is very Singaporean
we are in control
foreigners are here at our invitation
to help to contribute and to develop our nation
singaporeans are still in control
please don't spread rumours and lies...

Let's see how foreigners contribute:
1. Displace PMET from their jobs;
2. Pump up the price of HDB flats;
3. Take up spots in the good schools;
4. Clogged up the MRT trains;

....

Foreigners run the show now. Sinkees have no control now. The fight to regain control is inevitable.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
I see that hosanna sayer Leongsam going great guns on this thread and doing as usual, his public masterbating with
the pukes that he like

I don't "like" them. They are just forum nicks to me just live everybody else. However, their posts show a measure of intelligence that is lacking in most other contributions especially yours.

Since your lack of IQ is a result of natural causes, I don't hold that against you either.
 

winnipegjets

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
you are advocating anarchy not reforms
our government is the best
peaceful transformation without any disruption
gradual meaningful changes without any chaos
gentle changes without any social cost
please do not advocate violence
we cannot take it
we cannot sustain it
it is not our style of political transformation
so your suggestion is not acceptable

I heard this PAP bs for more than two decades. It is time for a serious change. We need a government that governs for sinkees, not one that put foreigners and foreign business ahead.
If the PAP doesn't listen, it is a matter of time that the people will rebel.

And I am sure you will be laughing with glee as the PAP used the military to shoot down the protestors. The PAP is evil and those who support them are just as evil.
 

ilovesingapore

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Let's see how foreigners contribute:
1. Displace PMET from their jobs;
2. Pump up the price of HDB flats;
3. Take up spots in the good schools;
4. Clogged up the MRT trains;

1. where got displaced..only improve the system and the service
2. the price of hdb flats will go up even without them
3. take what spots ..only those who qualified can enter...you must be a depressed elite
4.mrt trains clogged up themselves.nothing to do with foreigners. we cocked up ourselves
Foreigners run the show now. Sinkees have no control now. The fight to regain control is inevitable.

what is there to fight
singaporeans are in control
we can revoke their passes anytime
we can send them home anytime
we singaporeans are in control - don't be a loser
we are proud singaporeans
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
I heard this PAP bs for more than two decades. It is time for a serious change. We need a government that governs for sinkees, not one that put foreigners and foreign business ahead.
If the PAP doesn't listen, it is a matter of time that the people will rebel.

And I am sure you will be laughing with glee as the PAP used the military to shoot down the protestors. The PAP is evil and those who support them are just as evil.

By taking care of the needs of foreigners, the PAP is creating wealth for Singaporeans. If you can't see the correlation, it's not the PAP's fault. It's entirely your own.
 

wMulew

Alfrescian
Loyal
That's how a society dies ...keep living in the past!
If you want foreigners to dominate you, feel free to do so. Let's divide up the island. The east coast can go to the foreigners and you and your PAP. Only sinkees allowed for the rest of the country.

Dumb fuck opposition supporting retard. Hard truth about the present
2% unemployment rate
90% home ownership rate
Top 5 least corrupt countries in the world
Top 10 countries by GDP per capita
Top 5 countries in life expectancy
Lowest infant mortality rate in the world
Increase sales receipt during NATAS and PC Shows proving more and more can afford to travel and spend on non-essential products

The only fucking retard living in the past is U
Complain about lawsuit against opposition? Last suit against opposition Chee was more than 10 years ago
ISA used against Berisan Socialis more than 40 years ago
Using lift upgrading as a threat during elections more than 6 years ago. In fact the govt announce upgrading of Potong Pasir and Hougang BEFORE GE2011
 

wMulew

Alfrescian
Loyal
What bs are you spewing?
Ain't you aware of the shortage of HDB flats? And affordability as well?
Sinkapore's corruption has been legalized. Look at LKY ...he uses Istana like his palace ...a private affair like the launching of his latest book is held there ...an MP, yet he is entitled to 2 bodyguards to act as his personal helper. Ho Jinx blew tens of billions away and no one whisper on it. Shall I add more? You are being ripped off and you don't even know! Each scholar cost the taxpayers $68 million, from award to his death. There are about 400 active scholars and few hundred retired. The bill to taxpayers is a whopping $27 billion. What do we get from that? Mediocrity!
We are the richest? The median income of sinkee is $1700. You call that rich?

Our data is as good as Ah Tiong's data ...only fools believe in them.

Shortage of HDB have more or less been resolved. The fact that there are so many leftover flats during the last 2 BTO exercise proves that pple are just picking and choosing and not lacking in quantity

LKY is a former PM. As former leader of a nation goes, what he is getting isn't much. Just go check what an Aussie PM gets after his term

Ho Ching did not blew 10 of billions. As an investment company Temasek Holdings will always win some and lose some. The trick is to ensure they earn more than they lose. The fact that Temasek is worth more now than 5 years ago proves it. Your idiotic logic of losing billions does not hold water, not even Warren Buffet makes money on all his deals you expect Temasek Holdings to do better?

Please get your facts right median income is now $3K. If you are stuck at $1.7K it goes to show how much of a loser your are

If you don't believe in our data what makes you believe they any data about SG from other source is true since their root source is still from SG. U just admitted to believing in bullshit u pull right out of the sky. Retard spotted!!!!!
 
Last edited:

Narong Wongwan

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Dumb fuck opposition supporting retard. Hard truth about the present
2% unemployment rate
90% home ownership rate
Top 5 least corrupt countries in the world
Top 10 countries by GDP per capita
Top 5 countries in life expectancy
Lowest infant mortality rate in the world
Increase sales receipt during NATAS and PC Shows proving more and more can afford to travel and spend on non-essential products

The only fucking retard living in the past is U
Complain about lawsuit against opposition? Last suit against opposition Chee was more than 10 years ago
ISA used against Berisan Socialis more than 40 years ago
Using lift upgrading as a threat during elections more than 6 years ago. In fact the govt announce upgrading of Potong Pasir and Hougang BEFORE GE2011

Wah you regurgitate pap bs wholesale....

Why not include the other stellar stats we have? Top spot or among the top.

Highest paid politicians...
How about cost of living?
Most expensive real estate prices?
Government public debt?
Most unhappy nation.
Most crowded country.
Household debt.


Not all top spots...some quite low ranking....

Press freedom index.
Wage index.
What about purchasing power?
Birthrates.
 

wMulew

Alfrescian
Loyal
Wah you regurgitate pap bs wholesale....

Why not include the other stellar stats we have? Top spot or among the top.

Highest paid politicians...
How about cost of living?
Most expensive real estate prices?
Government public debt?
Most unhappy nation.
Most crowded country.
Household debt.


Not all top spots...some quite low ranking....

Press freedom index.
Wage index.
What about purchasing power?
Birthrates.

Your post shows a complete lack of understanding and common sense


Highest paid politicians... - Pay was similar to recommendations by WP I don't see a problem. U have a problem go scream at Worker's Party

How about cost of living? - Cost of living studies by external organization is bias and does not reflect real situation on the ground. While a basket of items is used to determined how expense essential items are. Items does not defer from country to country which is a problem because we have different practices in different countries. In the west they eat sandwiches but here we eat rice. If we use sandwich as a standard it brings up the cost significantly. Similarly, we do not rent our house, rental is usually as expensive if not more so then buying a BTO. Most Singaporeans also do not own cars, we take public transport. If we add a car into the mix, cost goes up 1700-2K a month however if I take public transport I won't even pay more than $200 a month. These are items used in calculating cost of living by most organizations which totally ignore the actual situation on the ground

Most expensive real estate prices? - You don't go out much do you? Major cities like Tokyo, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Taipei, New York etc are just as expensive if not more so than us

Government public debt? - Almost all Government public debt is your CPF money. U want them to have 0 debt? Countries like EU and America do not include pension and other money they owe citizens in pension and other social spendings in their debt. Singapore is more transparent then them. If we follow EU and America practice, Singapore will have close to 0 debt

Most unhappy nation.- Subjective. There are just as many survey that shows we are happy

Most crowded country. - As a small country with 0 rural areas we will always be at the top as a country however Singapore is no where near the top 20 densest city in the world proving that we are not as overcrowded as you think.

Household debt.- Singapore has one of the highest home ownership rate in the world naturally the household debt will be high. Unless you want everyone to move to rental model it will stay that way




Press freedom index. - Freedom of Press index have no bearing on whether the news is credible or not. We have laws that allow defamation suits against the press which is why we rank low. Ironically because the press can be sued it ensures that only true and authenticated facts are published making them more credible than other country's press

Wage index. - I am not familiar with this index I won't comment

What about purchasing power? - See cost of living above

Birthrates. - Almost all first world countries have the same issue. Other countries have rural areas which traditional help makeup for the shortfall in cities. Singapore is 1 big city that's what makes it worse
 
Last edited:
Top