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Russia is Abolishing No-1st-nuke Doctrine! Putin can hit button before Dotard. China also must follow ASAP!

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英媒:俄罗斯将废除不首先使用核武器原则

2018年11月24日 14:33 新华网



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原标题:英媒:俄将废除不首先使用核武原则
英媒称,根据俄罗斯议会批准的计划,普京总统将有权使用核武器先发制人。

据英国《泰晤士报》网站11月23日报道,俄罗斯联邦委员会(议会上院)参议员建议废除禁止首先使用大规模杀伤性武器的军事原则。此前普京表示,如果美国退出具有里程碑意义的《中导条约》,莫斯科将进行报复。
报道称,此次修改后,总统可以下令实施核打击,以回应敌人的常规武器袭击。之前的军事原则是,除非俄罗斯受到大规模杀伤性武器威胁或“到了危急存亡时刻”,否则禁止首先使用核武器。
报道称,联邦委员会建议,如果俄罗斯受到“高超音速和非核战略武器”的攻击,应允许俄罗斯使用核武器进行报复。这些无约束力的建议是在与国防部官员讨论后拟定的。
报道还称,普京19日会晤了军方官员,讨论俄罗斯如何应对特朗普宣布美国打算退出1987年由里根和戈尔巴乔夫签署的《中导条约》。普京说,“俄罗斯不会坐视”美国退出该条约,但他没有透露更多细节。克里姆林宫警告说,美国的决定将使世界“更加危险”。


British media: Russia will abolish the principle of not using nuclear weapons first

November 24, 2018 14:33 Xinhuanet
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Original title: British media: Russia will abolish the principle of not using nuclear weapons first

British media said that according to the plan approved by the Russian parliament, President Putin will have the right to use nuclear weapons to preempt.

According to the British "Times" website reported on November 23, the Senate of the Russian Federation (the upper house of parliament) proposed to abolish the military principle prohibiting the first use of weapons of mass destruction. Prior to this, Putin said that if the United States withdraws from the landmark "Guidelines", Moscow will retaliate.

According to the report, after the revision, the president can order a nuclear strike in response to the enemy’s conventional weapons attack. The previous military principle was that the first use of nuclear weapons was prohibited unless Russia was threatened by weapons of mass destruction or “at a critical moment of survival”.

According to the report, the Federal Council recommended that if Russia is attacked by "supersonic and non-nuclear strategic weapons", Russia should be allowed to use nuclear weapons for retaliation. These non-binding recommendations were developed after discussions with Defense Department officials.

The report also said that Putin met with military officials on the 19th to discuss how Russia should respond to Trump’s announcement that the United States intends to withdraw from the 1987 Treaty signed by Reagan and Gorbachev. Putin said that "Russia will not sit idly" that the United States has withdrawn from the treaty, but he did not disclose more details. The Kremlin warned that the US decision would make the world "more dangerous."



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ar-weapons-hypersonic-strategic-a8645646.html


Nuclear weapons should be used in response to 'non-nuclear strategic weapons', says Russian parliamentary committee

Calls for more precise wording for when the weapons should be used






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A Russian parliamentary committee has said that nuclear weapons should be used in response to “hypersonic and non-nuclear strategic weapons”.

Russia’s upper house of parliament has provided a non-binding recommendation to the National Security Council to change its rules on nuclear weapons.

The rulebook is updated once every few years and was last changed in 2014.
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The current doctrine has provisions for nuclear responses if there is a “risk to statehood” but the latest recommendation calls for more precise wording.

Recommended changes to the requirements include references to hypersonic weapons which are not currently in use.

Russia and China are the two countries believed to be aggressively pursuing research in this field.

Hypersonic weapons travel at least five times faster than the speed of sound and are currently in development.


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Currently there are no effective defence systems against hypersonic weapons, which when they are functional will be able to fly at altitudes of up to 100,000 feet.

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Russian Senators Want to Make It Easier to Use Nuclear Weapons Because They Think Threat of War Is Increasing
By Tom O'Connor On 11/21/18 at 5:33 PM






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Russian senators have proposed changes to the country's nuclear doctrine, potentially giving Moscow the power to launch weapons of mass destructions in response to a conventional attack.
Members of the Federation Council, the upper house of Russia's parliament, recommended Wednesday that Moscow expand its nuclear doctrine to include "taking a decision to retaliate in case of enemy use of hypersonic and other strategic conventional weapons" according to a state-run RIA Novosti report translated by fellow Russian government-owned outlet RT. The discussions reportedly came after consultations with officials from the Russian Ministry of Defense.
The news came as President Donald Trump publicly considered leaving the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty, to which Russian President Vladimir Putin and members of his administration have threatened to respond with military measures of their own.
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A member of Russia's Strategic Missile Troops guides an RS-24 Yars intercontinental ballistic missile launcher in the Ivanovo region, July 4, 2016. Russian President Vladimir Putin has sought to expand his country's conventional and nuclear capabilities. Russian Ministry of Defense
According to Russia's latest nuclear doctrine, adopted in December 2014, the country "shall reserve the right to use nuclear weapons in response to the use of nuclear and other types of weapons of mass destruction against it and/or its allies, as well as in the event of aggression against the Russian Federation with the use of conventional weapons when the very existence of the state is in jeopardy."
It also states that "Nuclear weapons will remain an important factor of preventing an outbreak of nuclear military conflicts involving the use of conventional arms (large-scale war or regional war)." That same year, Moscow's annexation of the Crimean Peninsula amid political unrest in neighboring Ukraine sparked a massive mobilization of U.S.-led NATO Western military alliance along Europe's eastern boundaries with Russia.
The two factions have increasingly militarized their borders, conducting dueling exercises of historic magnitudes. As tensions spiraled, the U.S. had accused Russia of violating the INF—a 1987 treaty banning the deployment of land-based nuclear and non-nuclear ballistic missiles with ranges of 500 to 5,500 kilometers (310 to 3,420 miles—by developing the Novator 9M729 missile system, while Russia claimed the U.S. had broken its end of the bargain by installing a missile defense shield that could allegedly be used offensively in the event of a conflict.
Trump announced last month his intention to withdraw from the INF, drawing harsh ominous warnings from Putin and other Moscow officials. On Wednesday, Russian senators and Defense Ministry officials warned that updating the nuclear doctrine was necessary due to a heightened risk of local and regional conflicts spilling over into a large-scale war involving conventional or nuclear attacks.
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A screen shot from a video demonstration accompanying Russian President Vladimir Putin's March 1 state of the nation speech simulates warheads from the RS-28 Sarmat intercontinental ballistic missile raining down on what appears to be the Tampa Bay area of Florida. TASS RUSSIAN NEWS AGENCY/REUTERS
In addition the potential U.S. pullout from the INF, these concerns may have partially been fueled by another controversial decision by the Trump administration. The Pentagon amended its own nuclear doctrine in February when it issued its latest Nuclear Posture Review, which focused heavily on perceived threats from Russia and China. The document called for low-yield nuclear weapons, which many experts have argued could make them more tempting to use.
Both the U.S. and Russia have refused to adopt "no-first-use" policies in terms, but have generally vowed to only use nuclear weapons defensively. Still, both Trump and Putin have set out to modernize their respective strategic capabilities as they continue to gradually disarm as part of the 2010 New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START), an agreement that followed the 1991 START.
 

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Kremlin on updating nuclear doctrine: Putin already listed grounds for use of nukes

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November 22, 18:57 UTC+3
Earlier, the Russian Federation Council’s Committee for Defense and Security suggested that the Security Council discuss a new policy of nuclear deterrence




ANAPA, November 22. /TASS/. Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Thursday that he was unaware of any possible discussion to review the grounds for which Russia could use nuclear weapons.
"Recently, the president listed all the reasons that can serve as grounds for using nuclear weapons. Conceptually, everything has been placed on record in the Russian Federation. I am unaware of whether any discussion is underway to update these arguments," he said in comments on Russian senators’ suggestions to review the policy of nuclear deterrence, specifying legislatively the conditions under which Russia could resort to nuclear weapons.
On Wednesday, the Russian Federation Council’s Committee for Defense and Security suggested that the Security Council discuss a new policy of nuclear deterrence.
The Security Council and its inter-departmental commission for military security were asked to consider revising: "The basic principles of the Russian Federation’s policy of nuclear deterrence," the document said.

Recommendations came during a roundtable on bolstering the Russian Armed Forces, "in the context of changing forms and methods of warfare".
Committee chief Viktor Bondarev told the roundtable that the priority task for the army and the navy right now is to beef up combat training using the experience of the anti-terrorist operation in Syria.




https://www.rt.com/russia/444573-russian-nuclear-doctrine-amendment/


Senators propose change of doctrine so Russia could respond with nukes to any ‘strategic strike’
Published time: 21 Nov, 2018 17:54 Edited time: 21 Nov, 2018 19:52
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Russia should be allowed to use its nuclear arsenal in response to a non-nuclear strike with a strategic weapon, Russian senators believe. Their recommendation is to amend Russia’s nuclear posture accordingly.
A suggestion to make the Russian nuclear doctrine more flexible was one of the recommendations backed by the upper chamber of the Russian parliament late on Wednesday.
The senators said the Russian National Security Council should prepare and propose an amendment on the nuclear doctrine, which would allow “taking a decision to retaliate in case of enemy use of hypersonic and other strategic conventional weapons” against Russia, reported RIA Novosti.
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Russian nuclear doctrine was last reviewed in 2014, when the current escalation of tensions with the West was just unfolding.
It allows the armed forces to deploy nuclear weapons on two scenarios. One is in response to a strike with a nuclear weapon or another weapon of mass destruction against Russia or one of its allies. Another is when a nuclear strike is necessary to prevent a conventional attack threatening the existence of Russia as a sovereign state.
READ MORE: US nuclear buildup shows new arms race has already begun – German FM
The US has since amended its nuclear posture, relaxing restrictions on when it could use nuclear weapons.
The latest review published in February is intentionally somewhat vague, but it called for developing new kinds of nuclear weapons and indicated that the US may nuke a country for as little as launching a cyberattack against America or one of its allies.
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The US has also recently announced its intention to withdraw from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty, a key Cold War era agreement with Russia which led to large-scale denuclearization of Europe. The treaty banned both the US and Russia from developing and deploying nuclear-capable land-based missiles with the range best suited for an exchange between Russia and European members of NATO.
Hundreds of such weapons deployed by each side prior to sealing the INF agreement were a major destabilizing factor. They required only minutes in flight to reach their targets, as opposed to dozens of minutes for intercontinental missiles. So if a launch were to be detected, it would leave almost no time to assess whether it was an actual attack requiring a response or a false alarm.
The recommendations from the Senate were the result of a round table discussion with officials from the Defense Ministry, the General Staff and the Security Council.
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Russian lawmakers ask Kremlin to review nuclear doctrine
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A group of Russian lawmakers asked the Kremlin Wednesday to review the nation's rules for the use of nuclear weapons, amid tensions with the West.
Participants in the hearings organized by the upper house's defense committee suggested that the presidential Security Council should draft a new version of the nuclear doctrine.
The lawmakers said in their proposals cited by Russian news agencies that the revised doctrine should in particular spell out a response to an attack on Russia with hypersonic and other strategic non-nuclear weapons.
The current Russian military doctrine states that Russia can use nuclear weapons in response to a nuclear attack on it or its allies or an aggression involving conventional weapons that threatens "the very existence of the state."
The state RIA Novosti news agency quoted an upper house member, Franz Klintsevich, as saying that the proposal to review the nuclear doctrine had been driven by the deployment of NATO forces closer to Russia's borders. "All that is aimed at threatening Russia," he said.
Earlier this week, Russian President Vladimir Putin chaired a meeting with military officials to discuss a response to the planned U.S. withdrawal from the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.
 

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Putin announced 6 kinds of invincible checkmate nukes and Dotard cannot even come out with a single countermeasure or counter-threat.

Yet STUPID DOTARD withdrew from INF nuke treaty instead! He is courting sure death!

All of Putin's most deadly long-range nuke Dotard has absolutely no way to resist and instead he want to play with (INF) short and medium range nukes?

So now the Russian gave Dotard the best rely for INF withdrawal = We withdraw from No-1st-Nuke Doctrine! Our fingers on the buttons 1st, you die 1st! You play with childish short/medium range nukes? We give you the long range one! See who die 1st!? huh?


CB Dotard! Sucker!
 

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