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Reporter Loh Chee Kong got owned by Kenneth Jeyaretnam in interview

Ramseth

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then how you explain PM Lee's shaky, "tongue-y" voice compare to his father's?

Fearing the disadvantage of not learning Chinese early, his father sent him to a Chinese primary school, Nanyang Primary. Formative years, picked up his accent there.
 

Queen Seok Duk

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Kenneth Jeyeratnam's spoken English is NO MATCH for this Gentleman's English:
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The problem with the one-party system is not corruption - at least not in Singapore because the Government is not corrupt - but it leads to a society closed to new ideas, with too many "yes men".

One of the things I'm concerned about is that we don't put out anything that is potentially libellous, inflammatory or seditious, that could lead to potential legal problems.

I think its at least good that he realizes he should not just shoot blindly. Don't give the opposition something to shoot U back with. I'm backing him to get some good results for the next election. He seem to be going down the right directions
 

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It's easy to pin blame on PAP government for KJ's unsuccessful attempt to land a job in Singapore after achieving double-1st in Cambridge.

However, lets not forget JBJ has 2 sons. The younger son did not 'suffer' the same discrimination. He worked in an ex-minister's law firm. I'm not sure if he sits in the board of directors of any GLCs, and in case he does, what does that say about discrimination against JBJ's offsprings ?

So in the future if KJ is going to repeat the same line about being discriminated because of his status as JBJ's son, he will have to balance that statement with the 'achievement' of his younger sibling.

As someone who actually interviewed him, I can honestly say that there was no discrimination. Indeed if there was, he would not even have been called up as we were a foreign company not beholden to the government. He just was not the candidate best suited for the vacancy then. Having been unsuccessful on so many occasions, it is understandable if he was extremely disappointed.
 

Ramseth

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As someone who actually interviewed him, I can honestly say that there was no discrimination. Indeed if there was, he would not even have been called up as we were a foreign company not beholden to the government. He just was not the candidate best suited for the vacancy then. Having been unsuccessful on so many occasions, it is understandable if he was extremely disappointed.

Quit kidding. There's no such thing as foreign companies not beholden to government unless it's smaller than SME size, in which case government can't be bothered to behold.
 

elephanto

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people's father passed away - send condolences also want to score political points tsk tsk tsk ....

CONDOLENCE LETTER FROM PRIME MINISTER LEE HSIEN LOONG ON DEMISE OF JB JEYARETNAM
30 September 2008


Mr Kenneth Jeyaretnam
Mr Philip Jeyaretnam


Dear Kenneth and Philip Jeyaretnam

I was sad to learn that your father, Mr Joshua Benjamin Jeyaretnam, has passed away. Mr JB Jeyaretnam was a Member of Parliament for Anson constituency from 1981 till 1986, and a Non-Constituency Member of Parliament from 1997 till 2001. He used to engage in heated debates in the House. Perhaps it was because he and the PAP never saw eye to eye on any major political issue and he sought by all means to demolish the PAP and our system of government. Unfortunately, this helped neither to build up a constructive opposition nor our Parliamentary tradition. Nevertheless, one had to respect Mr JB Jeyaretnam’s dogged tenacity to be active in politics at his age.
However, our differences were not personal. In 1993, one of you (Kenneth) wrote to Mr Goh Chok Tong, who was then Prime Minister, to say that you found employers in Singapore reluctant to offer you a job, and your only explanation was that the employers felt the authorities would not welcome your employment because of your name. Mr Goh replied with a letter which could be shown to prospective employers, to say that the government did not hold anything against you, and that employers should evaluate you fairly on your own merits, like any other candidate, because Singapore needed every talented person that it could find. Mr Goh had previously made the same point to your brother Philip, whom he had invited to lunch. I am therefore happy that both of you have established yourselves in Singapore.
Please accept my deepest condolences.

Yours sincerely


Lee Hsien Loong
 

Ramseth

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Well, to be fair, Philip Jeyaretnam did rise to be Senior Counsel and even President of Law Society in Singapore.
 

Received_by_Kings

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thats the difference between the standard of teaching in a british international

school teaching the actual and real british standards of pronunciation....and the

local schools...the local schools do not have a single teacher (if not most) to

teach the proper british standards of pronunciation....

i do not think any sporns (or most) are able to pronounce every word by word in british standards......

Not even the Rafflesians and the ACSians too hahaha. Maybe you can.

Even the Americans speak way better than you people. :smile:
 

Received_by_Kings

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As someone who actually interviewed him, I can honestly say that there was no discrimination. Indeed if there was, he would not even have been called up as we were a foreign company not beholden to the government. He just was not the candidate best suited for the vacancy then. Having been unsuccessful on so many occasions, it is understandable if he was extremely disappointed.

No discrimination? Are we sure on this? Or were you just being typically biased and paranoid like everyone else? Come on, be brave and own up. Stop hiding being an evidently painstaking and mischievous arrangement of letters and stop crying and feeling butthurt even at the man's allegations. He gave no names.
 

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good interview and kenneth got clever answers. support! say there is a problem but yet not defamatory. if he say "corrupt" he habis liao by this week!

"The problem with the one-party system is not corruption - at least not in Singapore because the Government is not corrupt - but it leads to a society closed to new ideas, with too many "yes men"."
The reporter should have asked him: "So who are some of these yes men?"
 

jw5

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As someone who actually interviewed him, I can honestly say that there was no discrimination. Indeed if there was, he would not even have been called up as we were a foreign company not beholden to the government. He just was not the candidate best suited for the vacancy then. Having been unsuccessful on so many occasions, it is understandable if he was extremely disappointed.
Your nickname "bhoven" when said quickly sounds like "beholden".
 

jw5

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PM Lee and Lim swee say were also educated in top overseas univerties.
Unbelievevable.
Where did the latter get his accent from?
The hen sounds more like the oldman than the dragon.
 
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jw5

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It's easy to pin blame on PAP government for KJ's unsuccessful attempt to land a job in Singapore after achieving double-1st in Cambridge.

However, lets not forget JBJ has 2 sons. The younger son did not 'suffer' the same discrimination. He worked in an ex-minister's law firm. I'm not sure if he sits in the board of directors of any GLCs, and in case he does, what does that say about discrimination against JBJ's offsprings ?

So in the future if KJ is going to repeat the same line about being discriminated because of his status as JBJ's son, he will have to balance that statement with the 'achievement' of his younger sibling.
He worked in an ex minister's wife's law firm, if I'm not mistaken?
Perhaps you didn't mean it to sound that way, but your argument sounds exactly like the one the pap would use.
 

wrcboi

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well if u are following say british/american standards and your students doest sound a tad of the british/american accent...then theres something wrong....

if lim sia suay is to be a teacher and teach the elementary school kids..gosh all or almost everyone will sound and talk like him
 

Queen Seok Duk

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He worked in an ex minister's wife's law firm, if I'm not mistaken?
Perhaps you didn't mean it to sound that way, but your argument sounds exactly like the one the pap would use.

It doesn't matter if it sounds like PAP style of argument. It's the logic that matters.

If, as he insists, the discrimination is a result of being the son of JBJ, then surely he must explain the rise of JBJ's other son within the radar of PAP.

The other son clearly sits on the Board of Directors of Singapore Tourism Board. What does that say about discrimination ?
 
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