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Rental flat how much to rent from the govt? HELP!

Sinkie

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How much is the govt's rental flat and how to apply? Anyone knows? I've come across a homeless family with children and their situation is desperate. Any advice please? God is Dog, kindly stay out of this thread....


http://sg.news.yahoo.com/home-today-gone-tomorrow-111205524--sector.html
In a country publicly defined by wealth and GDP, a good number of people have only the streets to call home. The PropertyGuru's Cheryl Tay reports on the worrying prevalence of homelessness in Singapore. Singapore is often hailed by its own government and those in business as a financial hub, seemingly immune to economic issues which plague other countries. Even as the Eurozone faces a severe sovereign debt crisis, Singapore boasts one of the world's highest GDP per capita and continues to impress tourists and other foreigners with its infrastructure.
Of course, it would be unfair to assume that Singapore is ideal only for tourists and foreigners. The government has enforced laws to ensure that all citizens can live comfortably — public housing, in particular, is subject to a comprehensive set of rules and regulations to encourage home-ownership. Home loans, grants and schemes are available to first-timers, senior citizens and low-income households. In Parliament earlier this year, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance Tharman Shanmugaratnam uttered the infamous words: "Our enhanced housing grants for lower income families are such that a family with a monthly income of as low as S$1,000 can now purchase a small flat."
The resulting backlash was telling. In an affluent country like Singapore, where everyone is promised a roof over his head, one may not think being homeless is a major issue. In fact, former Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew once proclaimed, "You go down New York, Broadway. You will see the beggars...where are the beggars in Singapore?"
But seemingly contradictory is Minister for Environment and Water Resources Vivien Balakrishnan's statement on the matter: "If you were a poor person, anywhere on this planet, Singapore is the one place where you will have a roof over your head, where you will have food on the table."
AU CONTRAIRE
The numbers, however, tell a different story. From 2006 to 2009, the Ministry of Community Development, Youth and Sports (MCYS) picked up an annual average of 85 beggars. The MCYS website states: "Begging is an offence in Singapore under the Destitute Persons Act. Singaporeans in financial distress do not have to beg. They can approach the Community Development Councils, Family Service Centres or grassroots organisations for help."
Despite this, MCYS reported picking up 389 homeless people in 2011, excluding those it may have missed and those already in homeless shelters. International news network Al Jazeera caused a stir in 2010 when it reported on a Singaporean couple known as Samiah and Eddie, who had apparently lost their homes in divorce proceedings and were unable to rent due to government housing policies. In its video entitled Government Policies Force Some Onto The Streets, it was also alleged that tented communities in Singapore are "raided" by government authorities when discovered.
Dr. Balakrishnan disputed these findings in Parliament: "In Singapore, we have…cheap affordable rental housing as well as heavily-subsidised first-time entry into home-ownership. The people…who insist on staying in beaches and parks are not first-timers. These are people who have almost always sold their second or third flat (and) have unfortunately dissipated the subsidies and cashed them and now have run into problems."
Whether or not Al Jazeera's report was indeed factual is still unclear. But the statistics beg the question of just how serious the homeless situation in Singapore is.
NEGLECTED OR NEGATED?
Andrew Loh, volunteer and Editor-in-Chief of PublicHouse.sg, a website which publishes articles about social issues and significant events in Singapore, told The PropertyGuru: "There are various reasons why people become homeless, such as the inability to service their mortgage loans because of unemployment, ill-health or divorce. Whether the number will rise depends on various factors. However, the fact that National Development Minister Khaw Boon Wan has pledged to build some 10,000 new rental flats shows that the problem is very serious."
Interestingly, more comprehensive statistics on homelessness in Singapore are unavailable. But according to Leong Sze Hian, Past President of the Society of Financial Service Professionals and founding advisor of the Financial Planning Associations of Brunei and Indonesia, Singapore's homeless shelters are always full, to the point where some of their occupants are evicted.
Loh, who has worked with and reported on homeless issues, partially confirmed this. "There are only three government-funded homeless shelters in Singapore, each with a capacity of about 40 people. This is grossly inadequate, especially when many homeless families have children. I'm not aware of eviction from homeless shelters but the homeless I have come across are given three- or six-month periods of stay. After that, they are expected to find alternatives."
Interim rental housing is also insufficient. Loh opines, "I have seen en bloc flats — such as at Tiong Bahru — rented out to foreigners and expats. Perhaps the government could reserve these for homeless Singaporeans instead."
While many of Singapore's homeless were from the lower strata of society to begin with, the government has itself admitted that its dependence on foreign labour has depressed wages. Furthermore, certain laws seem to work against less privileged Singaporeans. Loh said: "Some laws and regulations need to be changed, such as those for divorcees or single parents, as well as HDB's rental policies. One of the issues we've encountered is that the HDB will not provide you housing if you've recently sold your flat. You have to purchase from the open market. With prices as they are, this is impossible for many, let alone the homeless and poor."
Indeed, the affordability of public housing in Singapore must be called into question. One may wonder why, if HDB flats are as affordable as our ministers' say, do many flat owners have to put their retirement savings in the red by using most of their CPF to finance their mortgages. Additionally, government measures to control home prices have not been very effective: though the median price of new homes fell three percent year-on-year in Q2, the median price of non-landed resale homes rose seven percent over the same period.
While BTO (Build-to-Order) flats are constantly being launched, with at least 20,000 to be built next year, not all prospective buyers are first-timers and not all first-timers can afford to wait for them to be built. Hence, they must look at resale flats, for which there is substantial cash-over-valuation (COV) and whose prices are ever increasing, compounding the issue of unaffordability.
As Loh succinctly puts it: "The HDB needs to be more compassionate. Ultimately, the government needs to address two issues: wages and employment opportunities, and flat prices."
 

tonychat

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All your fucking HDB flats are rental...you dun own them!!! get it sinkie???? stupid!!!!
 

god_zeus

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if u sold your hdb flat and profited from it
u cannot rent from the govt until after 2 and a half years

if u kena kick out by your wife/mother
u still have to rent from the open market eg.. a room cost abt 500 dollars

if u are homless
u might want to call up your friendly neighbour MP
he will house the homeless
 
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Sinkie

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if u sold your hdb flat and profited from it
u cannot rent from the govt until after 2 and a half years

if u kena kick out by your wife/mother
u still have to rent from the open market eg.. a room cost abt 500 dollars

Just asking, do you know how much is a rental flat and what size?
Where can we get such info har?
 

god_zeus

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1 room 1 hall abt S$150 ..i think
the 1 room flat at woodlands blk 12 .. 30 to 50 dollars

but not easy to get
unless the emporer give a call to hdb and say ok
 
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Sinkie

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1 room 1 hall abt S$150 ..i think
the 1 room flat at woodlands blk 12 .. 30 to 50 dollars

but not easy to get
unless the emporer give a call to hdb and say ok

It's a family with children.....how can a 1 room, 1 hall be enuff?

OMG!!! But it is cheap enuff, and a roof over their heads.

Is there a website on this please? How to search, using what terms?
 

Leongsam

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It's a family with children.....how can a 1 room, 1 hall be enuff?

OMG!!! But it is cheap enuff, and a roof over their heads.

Is there a website on this please? How to search, using what terms?

Before LKY transformed Singapore, 3 families often had to share a small attap hut with a leaky roof, no running water, no electricity and no proper floor. They had to walk 1 km to collect water at the standpipes. They had to shit in a bucket shared by 50 other families.

The fact that you think that a comfortable 1 room HDB apartment with all the amenities included is insufficient for a single family shows just how spoilt Sinkies have become. :rolleyes:
 

god_zeus

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can lah, why not?

I done it before
in 1977, I was a 13 yr old boy
we lived in telok blangah rise, blk 29
1 room 1 hall,
rental abt $80
there wer 6 of us , mother father, 2 brothers, me, 1 sister

evn I room , I tried before
in 1965 -1976
rental $20
I was 2 - 12 rs old
staying in hoy fatt road blk 52
again, there wer 6 of us, but of course I and my brother, sister were only HALF the size...

go to hdb website lah, or telephone them lah, the girls operator there all shake leg one lah
http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10323p.nsf/w/RentDirectHDBOverview?OpenDocument

It's a family with children.....how can a 1 room, 1 hall be enuff?

OMG!!! But it is cheap enuff, and a roof over their heads.

Is there a website on this please? How to search, using what terms?
 
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sleaguepunter

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It's a family with children.....how can a 1 room, 1 hall be enuff?

OMG!!! But it is cheap enuff, and a roof over their heads.

Is there a website on this please? How to search, using what terms?

apparently you never been to a rental estate, you will be shock by the amount of people living in a one room flat. some of the people inside the flat may not be authorised to stay there but are put up by relatives who are the authorised tenant.
 

Sinkie

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Thanks all for the info.......

Any family who stays in such a 1-room flat will never be able to get out of poverty.........the longer one stays like that, the sooner will be depressed and get mad. Like that sure die one.
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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wah..................Sinkie helping other people ah...............:eek:


all Christians take note...........Jesus is coming anytime soon...........:biggrin:


may Allah, Jehovah, Yahweh, Zeus, Thor and all the man-made gods...........give Sinkie a hand.......:p
 

ginfreely

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Just asking, do you know how much is a rental flat and what size?
Where can we get such info har?

Here is the info, see the link below. In summary, rental flats are one and two room flats which mean the size is one bedroom one hall or one bedroom half hall. The rental rates vary according to household income level, earning below $800 pay less rental than those earning above $800 (must earn below $1500 to qualify for HDB rental).

http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10323p.nsf/w/RentDirectHDBRentDeposit?OpenDocument
 
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ykhuser

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the cramper the house you lived in, the more successful you will become.
why?
if you have to squeeze if 10 person in a 4 room flat, you will spend less time in the house except for sleeping.
you will innovated, you will have enough pressure to get rich and get off the fucking slump.you will spend more time on reading robert kiyo book less time on sbf , less time on porn
 
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