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[Tekkun]

The well heeled and capable are in OZ, Canada and USA, also let's see if Malaysian government with their strong protection mentality will let them in, Malaysia not like Singapore where PR issued like toilet paper, even given to people who never stay a single day in Singapore and can keep renewing.

There's one dedicated guy who is The Prime Minister’s Special Envoy to China working quietly very hard in China bringing truckloads of projects into Malaysia. The most recent is the Xiamen University which was launched 2 months ago. Malaysia remained China's largest trading partner in Asean with bilateral trade totalling US$97.35bil last year.

 

[xebay11]

There's one dedicated guy who is The Prime Minister’s Special Envoy to China working quietly very hard in China bringing truckloads of projects into Malaysia. The most recent is the Xiamen University which was launched 2 months ago. Malaysia remained China's largest trading partner in Asean with bilateral trade totalling US$97.35bil last year.

Aya Malaysia is duit mau, orang cheena tak mau. So let's see how many boatloads will come and for how long.

 

[ECboy]

Many Malaysians seem to have that kind of money.

It can be done for much less. I studied in UK for RM84,000/year, this was only fees and some seed money. I mainly worked part time for my living expenses. A lot of kids nowadays too pampered, don't want to lift a finger to help their parents. Don't get me wrong, my parents are not poor but i don't feel its fair that they fork out 7x (GPB-RM exchange rate at that time) for my living expense when i can earn a decent amount working part time.

 

[xebay11]

It can be done for much less. I studied in UK for RM84,000/year, this was only fees and some seed money. I mainly worked part time for my living expenses. A lot of kids nowadays too pampered, don't want to lift a finger to help their parents. Don't get me wrong, my parents are not poor but i don't feel its fair that they fork out 7x (GPB-RM exchange rate at that time) for my living expense when i can earn a decent amount working part time.

You are the minority.

 

[sgtsk]

The well heeled and capable are in OZ, Canada and USA, also let's see if Malaysian government with their strong protection mentality will let them in, Malaysia not like Singapore where PR issued like toilet paper, even given to people who never stay a single day in Singapore and can keep renewing.

As I understand, malaysia has been steadily enhancing it's partnership with prc over the last 20 years. I think malaysia has no problems with prc coming in on visa or mmh which do not constitute citizenship. Malaysia so far has been welcoming prc tourists, investments, developers, students,...who contribute to Malaysian economy and forex reserve. What could concern malaysian government is immigrants who could impact negatively existing racial balance, increase competition for economy pie, educational and employment opportunities with bumi.

 

[sgtsk]

For those who are curious about PRC investments in Malaysia, read this link.

http://ippreview.com/index.php/Home/Blog/single/id/107.html

Thank you sir for the good link! This is very informative on the extent of cooperation between prc and Malaysia and should put to rest the alleged anti prc sentiments.

 

[Tekkun]

Thank you sir for the good link! This is very informative on the extent of cooperation between prc and Malaysia and should put to rest the alleged anti prc sentiments.

These are the Government to Government projects. The private and regional province eg Fujian,Xiamen, etc initiatives are not included.
Last I heard is they are setting up PRC International Schools here.

 

[winners]

For those who are curious about PRC investments in Malaysia, read this link.

http://ippreview.com/index.php/Home/Blog/single/id/107.html

I see that apart from the MCKIP, which I last heard has also been quite dormant, the other mentioned investments are mainly reclamation works for their own property developments and is already infamous especially in Iskandar Johor, which is contributing to a serious glut in the supply of condos during the next 2 to 3 years.

The other is the Bandar KL project, which is being done to secure the HSR contract and is as good as a done deal. This project though may be sustainable for the long term because it will take about 5 years to complete and will be followed by the periodical maintenance and technical transfers.

Nevertheless, all these Chinese FDIs are good and should remain worthy if there will be no social and racial conflicts in Malaysia. However, judging from the constant radicalization of the orthodox minority (which I don't need to elaborate here) and the government's commitment to continue to please them in order to win their votes, I see it as a gamble by the Chinese.

One must always remember that the indigenous have and will always be feeling uneasy with the Chinese if they think that they are being outnumbered, overpowered or losing their grip. One must always not forget about these incidents: the waving of the Kris incident in Putrajaya, the unlawful dressing code for visitors of all races to government offices, the pending implementation of a "women's only" check out counters in supermarkets and separate trolleys for Muslims, the rioting at Petaling Street, etc.

 

[Tekkun]

I see that apart from the MCKIP, which I last heard has also been quite dormant, the other mentioned investments are mainly reclamation works for their own property developments and is already infamous especially in Iskandar Johor, which is contributing to a serious glut in the supply of condos during the next 2 to 3 years.

The other is the Bandar KL project, which is being done to secure the HSR contract and is as good as a done deal. This project though may be sustainable for the long term because it will take about 5 years to complete and will be followed by the periodical maintenance and technical transfers.

Nevertheless, all these Chinese FDIs are good and should remain worthy if there will be no social and racial conflicts in Malaysia. However, judging from the constant radicalization of the orthodox minority (which I don't need to elaborate here) and the government's commitment to continue to please them in order to win their votes, I see it as a gamble by the Chinese.

One must always remember that the indigenous have and will always be feeling uneasy with the Chinese if they think that they are being outnumbered, overpowered or losing their grip. One must always not forget about these incidents: the waving of the Kris incident in Putrajaya, the unlawful dressing code for visitors of all races to government offices, the pending implementation of a "women's only" check out counters in supermarkets and separate trolleys for Muslims, the rioting at Petaling Street, etc.

I normally do not like to go into details of politics but I will make an exception here. To the outsiders all these political upheavals are alarming type of incidents but to local Malaysian Chinese, it doesn't matter to us a bit. We have seen it all. Go to PAS controlled Kelantan, you see Chinese happily mingling with the Malays there too.

Najib is for moderation inclusive politics and the Sarawak recent election is an example. The exPM is for racial divisive politics and that is one of the fundamental reason why these two are fighting. It now appear that the exPM is outnumbered. The so called NGOs supporting racialism and the exPM had largely quietened down.

Finally, if I may try to correct :

One must always not forget about these incidents: the waving of the Kris incident in Putrajaya (Hisamuddin had apologised publicly already and it took place in PWTC 15 years ago at a Umno Youth Assembly), the unlawful dressing code for visitors of all races to government offices (There is a dress code for all Government offices, I have personally seen skimpy shorts/ hot pants worn by Chinese girls at government offices and overzealous religious guards trying to do their job, anyway it is in the past, do we hear any recently?) , the pending implementation of a "women's only" check out counters in supermarkets and separate trolleys for Muslims (seriously is it implemented or more for political points?) , the rioting at Petaling Street (demonstrations at the entrance of Petaling Street, they did not enter at all), etc.

Let's hope tomorrow will be better.

 

[winners]

Let's hope tomorrow will be better.

I also hope to be in this manner, but you and I totally have no jurisdiction on this.

 

[winners]

Go to PAS controlled Kelantan, you see Chinese happily mingling with the Malays there too.

That used to be the case when Nik Aziz was still around then. He was indeed respected by even the Chinese population there.

 

[ECboy]

I normally do not like to go into details of politics but I will make an exception here. To the outsiders all these political upheavals are alarming type of incidents but to local Malaysian Chinese, it doesn't matter to us a bit. We have seen it all. Go to PAS controlled Kelantan, you see Chinese happily mingling with the Malays there too.

Najib is for moderation inclusive politics and the Sarawak recent election is an example. The exPM is for racial divisive politics and that is one of the fundamental reason why these two are fighting. It now appear that the exPM is outnumbered. The so called NGOs supporting racialism and the exPM had largely quietened down.

Finally, if I may try to correct :

One must always not forget about these incidents: the waving of the Kris incident in Putrajaya (Hisamuddin had apologised publicly already and it took place in PWTC 15 years ago at a Umno Youth Assembly), the unlawful dressing code for visitors of all races to government offices (There is a dress code for all Government offices, I have personally seen skimpy shorts/ hot pants worn by Chinese girls at government offices and overzealous religious guards trying to do their job, anyway it is in the past, do we hear any recently?) , the pending implementation of a "women's only" check out counters in supermarkets and separate trolleys for Muslims (seriously is it implemented or more for political points?) , the rioting at Petaling Street (demonstrations at the entrance of Petaling Street, they did not enter at all), etc.

Let's hope tomorrow will be better.

Yea, i agree, those incidents are no biggie, just the usual noise. Unless another M13 happen, PRC still can come in.

 

[Tekkun]

Yea, i agree, those incidents are no biggie, just the usual nois. Unless another M13 happen, PRC still can come in.

This says it all....

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KUALA LUMPUR: China is against those who resort to violence to disrupt public order, said the country's ambassador to Malaysia Dr Huang Huikang.

"The Chinese government opposes terrorism and any form of discrimination against races and any form of extremism,” he told reporters during his visit to Petaling Street on Friday.

Dr Huang warned that Beijing would not fear voicing out against incidents which threaten the interests of the country, infringe upon the rights of its citizens in doing business, or disrupt the relationship between Malaysia and China.

During his visit, Dr Huang, his wife, along with other officials from the Chinese embassy presented traders with moon cakes in conjunction with the Mid Autumn Festival.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2015/09/25/china-ambassador-petaling-street/

 

[winners]

Yea, i agree, those incidents are no biggie, just the usual noise. Unless another M13 happen.

I'm not too sure about this. All it takes is just 1 wrong spark to ignite the fire. Don't you realize that such incidents are getting more frequent as compared to 5 years ago? It also doesn't help when these people will see what's happening in the Middle East and Europe.

 

[winners]

This says it all....

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"The Chinese government opposes terrorism and any form of discrimination against races and any form of extremism,”

If China's words can be trusted, there wouldn't be the constant unlawful enforcement and suppression of the Muslim population in XinJiang anymore. To continually suppressing them can only lead to more retaliation, unless they can be totally eliminated from their land, which is of course, the final objective of China.

Communists will remain communists. They can never be as liberal as the West, where even a Muslim can become elected as the mayor of London.

 

[xebay11]

I'm not too sure about this. All it takes is just 1 wrong spark to ignite the fire. Don't you realize that such incidents are getting more frequent as compared to 5 years ago? It also doesn't help when these people will see what's happening in the Middle East and Europe.

Just to add, if everything with the Chinese is status quo, maybe Tekkun is right, but since everyone is expecting bus loads of PRCs coming in as a result if PRC business activities, the bumi rakyat will surely start sparks to ignite fire and this may risk life and limb to non-bumis in Malaysia regardless of all the apologies and explanations made in the past.

 

[Tekkun]

Just to add, if everything with the Chinese is status quo, maybe Tekkun is right, but since everyone is expecting bus loads of PRCs coming in as a result if PRC business activities, the bumi rakyat will surely start sparks to ignite fire and this may risk life and limb to non-bumis in Malaysia regardless of all the apologies and explanations made in the past.

There's only 1 game in Malaysia. Prosper thy neighbour. As long as the your fellow countrymen are rich, whether just rich or more than rich doesn't matter, they don't give a damn if you are super rich. You can dominate the economic wealth for all they care. But you never never touch the political dominance. It is enshrined in their Sultan heritage. That is their political power and sacred cow. Racial problems happen when the ExPm tried to divide and rule. That's where all these stupid favour policies come in.The Opposition also capitalise on it to fight back. No one want to take a back seat and share.

The 10 richest men in Malaysia are all Chinese except for Ananda Krishnan (No. 2) and Syed Albukary (No. 9) but the most powerful political figure is always Malay.

 

[winners]

This says it all....

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Dr Huang warned that Beijing would not fear voicing out against incidents which threaten the interests of the country, infringe upon the rights of its citizens in doing business, or disrupt the relationship between Malaysia and China.

Isn't this against their preaching of "non-interference on the domestic affairs of other countries"? When they use it on Tibet and Taiwan, they are not wrong. Yet, they can impose on other countries deemed fit for them.

Let me tell you. Soon, when you sail out more than 200km from the coast of Sabah, you are already in Chinese territories. lol.

 

[sgtsk]

These are the Government to Government projects. The private and regional province eg Fujian,Xiamen, etc initiatives are not included.
Last I heard is they are setting up PRC International Schools here.

I guess the prc international scool would be in forest city where oversea education for prc is one of the theme. Heard Chinese residing overseas have easier access to top prc universities. JB and shantou are sister cities and have strong business links and investments both ways.

 

[sgtsk]

Just to add, if everything with the Chinese is status quo, maybe Tekkun is right, but since everyone is expecting bus loads of PRCs coming in as a result if PRC business activities, the bumi rakyat will surely start sparks to ignite fire and this may risk life and limb to non-bumis in Malaysia regardless of all the apologies and explanations made in the past.

The prc are in Malaysia under the instituted policy of malaysian government as welcome investors, tourists or students...not poor immigrants to grab economic, employment and political pie with bumi.