Police Competency Going Down the Drain

[scroobal]

This is poor Police work and lack of professionalism.

If the article did contain anything in relation to making of molotov cocktails or inciting someone to use it, then charge the bugger. But what transpired looks more like keystone cops trying to force a confession. Sadly the they don't seem to have a clue about current affairs thinking that Chi Ti Lik belong slipper man family.

I also note that his computer was not seized for forensics.

What with this death threat bullshit if it did take place. Sounds like Malaysian Police doing the usual routine or the Shah of Iran Secret Police.

It may explain why it was easy for Mas Selmat to escape for easily.

They might as well outsource this type of investigation to AETOS. The cost savings will help the needy and reduce the hate that PAP is now garnering.

Got to give it to this guy for refusing to sign the statement. They should make the Police Officer in charge of the canteen. Such an idiot.



http://www.xanga.com/pothepanda/weblog
Friday, March 13, 2009
[OFFICIAL]PoThePanda Statement On CID/ISD Lim Kopi Session 02/03/09Dear Fellow Citizens Of Singapore,

This is a factual account of what happened to me on the 02/03/09.

Do remember the faces of our fathers,and do the right thing when the time comes.

After the posting of this article,it is likely i may be detained under the ISA.

Why do i do it even when i know this possibility?

I do it because we should not be held back by fear...

I do it because we should remember the faces of our fathers,and seek justice for all those Singaporeans who may have been falsely and unfairly treated over the years..

I do it because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO..

My fellow Singaporeans...

In the name of our National Pledge...

To Build A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY

Based on JUSTICE AND EQUALITY

STAND FOR A CHANGE!

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Statement Of The Events Of 02/03/09

I am Tan Yeong Hong,Singapore NRIC Sxxxx884E,staying at Blk 108 Hougang Ave 1 #xx-xxxx Singapore 530108.My Hp number is xxxx9021 and my email address is [email protected]. My online moniker for Stomp / fuckwarezone is PoThePanda08 / PoThePanda.My blog is at xanga/pothepanda.I am a regular online dissident and critic of Singapore’s PAP government.However,I do not belong to any political party.

Below is a statement of events that happened to me on the 2nd of March of the Year 2009,which led me to believe that there is systematic abuse of human rights in Singapore,and that many so-called terrorists in detention are not terrorists at all.At the same time,I would like to put on record the death threats that were made to me.Should I disappear after the publication of this Statement,I urge the Singaporeans & the International Community to stand for a change.

On the 02/03/2009,I was picked up from my house at about 11am by 4 persons who identified themselves as CID.They claimed they were investigating a post on Molotov Cocktails that I had posted on the forum Stomp.With regards to this particular allegation,I wish to state that I had posted an article on Molotov Cocktails on Stomp sometime late last year.The article was copied and pasted from Wikipedia,and was posted up for information value due to its appearance in the popular game Left 4 Dead.2-3 weeks AFTER I posted the article,the MP Seng Han Thong got burnt.Apparently,someone made a police report that I had instigated the old man to burn the MP,via posting that article.

I was driven back to Cantonment Complex and subjected to an interrogation by these persons.Chief among them was 1 who identified himself as Sebastian,supposedly from the ISD.

First,they tried the “dangling a carrot & stick” / “I am your friend” method.Sebastian repeatedly stated that he thinks I am a very intelligent person and that I am very young.He repeatedly stated that he doesn’t want to see me “going in and out of jail repeatedly”(stick) when I could “choose to be a useful citizen of Singapore.(carrot)”.Apparently,if I confessed to whatever they wanted,they would “help me become a useful citizen of Singapore.”

When I showed no emotion at such an approach,they decide to switch methods.The next method they used was pure aggression,subjecting me to a barrage of personal insults / defamatory statements in an attempt to wear me down mentally.And then they would suddenly make an incriminating statement,trying to catch me off-guard so I would inadvertently “confess” to having “conspired against the state of Singapore” and / or “participated in terrorism activities.”

In what I feel was an attempt to wear me down mentally,they made a host of
personal,defamatory attacks to me.Barbed comments like “You stay in a 3 room flat?It’s like a pig’s sty.” “You remind me of a donkey,of a mule.You are just an animal that needs to be shown who its master is.” “Some people say you can lead a donkey to water,but you can’t make it drink.Today I am here to force you to drink.” “You write rubbish,everything you say online is rubbish.”

They then repeatedly tried to lead me to “confess to having acted against the state of Singapore and committed terrorism acts” via the following method.

The 4 of them would conduct a boisterous conversation,during which insults would be constantly thrown at me.Then suddenly 1 of them would say “You committed such-and-such an act,right?” and try to catch me off-guard.I stayed calm,did not react to any aggravation and repelled all attempts by stating no repeatedly.

Having failed in their attempts to coax / coerce a “confession” of “acting against the state of Singapore and committing terrorism acts” out of me,they then stated they wanted to record a statement with regards to my post on Stomp.

At this point,I requested to have a lawyer present to assist me.All of them was visibly shocked and looked taken aback.After regaining their composure,they tried to convince me that I did not have the right to get a lawyer.I stated clearly I knew my right to a lawyer and that I wanted to contact Mr Chia Ti Lik,a well-known lawyer who I heard of through news reports and via the website www.wayangparty.com .

Sebastian then proceeded to defame Mr Chia Ti Lik by stating that I should not trust Mr Chia Ti Lik because Mr Chia Ti Lik is the “Slipper Man”.”Slipper Man” is an Opposition MP who was in the news because his China-born daughter-in-law murdered his other daughter-in-law.When I enquired as to the relevance of this,Sebastian claimed that Mr Chia Ti Lik cannot be trusted as he is of the same family,the same genes.The fact is,Mr Chia Ti Lik and “The Slipper Man” are 2 different persons.I strongly feel this is a gross slur on Mr Chia Ti Lik’s professional reputation.

The statement was taken by a Mr Iskander Tang,from the CID Bomb Investigation Squad.Through creative usuage of the English language,Mr Tang crafted a statement which had me “confessing” to various “offences”.He then coached me by stating that I should express remorse for my “offences” and hope for leniency.The final paragraph of the statement was dedicated to which nicknames I go by on the Internet.As I strongly suspected that this was another attempt to discredit me,I refused to express remorse for my “offences” and refused to sign the statement.

Subsequently,after frantic consultations with Sebastian over the phone,Mr Tang had me sign a statement which stated simply the nicknames I used on the Internet.After this,he stated that I had to surrender my laptop to him,upon which he would provide me with a receipt.I complied.

As I was thinking that everything was over,Mr Tang indicated that he had more things to say to me.

And I quote,”Mr Tan,if you walk out of here tomorrow,you might get killed.You might meet with a mysterious accident,you might disappear and nobody will know what happened to you!”

“Mr Tan,some things and people in this country you cannot offend!Some people are above all things!You better make sure you know this!”

“Mr Tan,we can arrange for things to happen to you.You understand or not!”



I was then escorted out of the building.



List of Trangressions

1)Denial of Access to a Lawyer

2)Defaming a Prominent Lawyer,the Eminent Mr Chia Ti Lik, Advocate & Solicitor, Singapore

3)Death Threats issued against my person

4)Arrest made with no basis/evidence of any crime committed

5)Attempted Coercion / Coaxing / Coaching of A Confession

6)Repeatedly Insulting A “Suspect”

7)Attempt to get me to signed a “Confession” through mis-writing what I had said

 

[commoner]

reading this looks like a very badly written screenplay script,,,,, playing good/bad cop, trying to beat a confession out of someone, threats that they think will never surface, really makes people to think is this for real,,,,

if it is real, should submit to hollywood as a movie screenplay or something,,,,

 

[scroobal]

reading this looks like a very badly written screenplay script,,,,, playing good/bad cop, trying to beat a confession out of someone, threats that they think will never surface, really makes people to think is this for real,,,,

if it is real, should submit to hollywood as a movie screenplay or something,,,,

Agree bro. Its a shambles and to think that our security is in the hands of idiots like that.

I take my hat off to this guy for refusing to sign what appears to be a coerced statement. A rare singaporean indeed.

 

[cleareyes]

Agree bro. Its a shambles and to think that our security is in the hands of idiots like that.

I take my hat off to this guy for refusing to sign what appears to be a coerced statement. A rare singaporean indeed.

Reading through the whole passage, i realised alot of loopholes and very very one-sided to the point of blowing up certain facts.

I m saying this because writing from SDP's faction had always display a strong sense of over-stretching the matter of fact, and on knowing that the police, especially the investigators, could not reply or answer back on their individual capacity due to OSA. This had made the story too one-sided and too unbelieveable if you know about the operadis mudis of the police when come to such "matter" and it could be just a small one.

I m sure the police would be informed of this and the media would have to take this up and a statement could be issued.

I would like to hear both side of the story before making a conclusion

 

[scroobal]

Reading through the whole passage, i realised alot of loopholes and very very one-sided to the point of blowing up certain facts.

I m saying this because writing from SDP's faction had always display a strong sense of over-stretching the matter of fact, and on knowing that the police, especially the investigators, could not reply or answer back on their individual capacity due to OSA. This had made the story too one-sided and too unbelieveable if you know about the operadis mudis of the police when come to such "matter" and it could be just a small one.

I m sure the police would be informed of this and the media would have to take this up and a statement could be issued.

I would like to hear both side of the story before making a conclusion

I don't think that this guy has got anything to do with SDP. Chia Ti Lik probably came to his mind as he was grabbing attention for a number of cases (but not following thru).

He might have added salt and pepper but the accout looks consistent.

 

[locky2ky]

i don't think our policemen have the gut to make death threats, they are too chicken!

 

[cleareyes]

I don't think that this guy has got anything to do with SDP. Chia Ti Lik probably came to his mind as he was grabbing attention for a number of cases (but not following thru)..

I dont know if the guy is with SDP. But the manner of writing and intent is "consistent" with intent of painting a negative of the police, something which SDP had been doing and that itself already left the question of while such a matter did happen or not.

Anyway, CTL is not a dependable lawyer to begin with and I would rather put my faith in some bimbo unknown lawyer than on one that never follow-through in complete of his cases.

He might have added salt and pepper but the accout looks consistent.

That is where I see the major loophole to be, way too consistent. The story was written in such details, doesnt that make you wonder if there were lots of make up parts to make the story flow?

If you are one who had gone through such an incident, would your mind be able to produce a writing of such dramatic detail or would your account be all over the place?

this is very much in mind with disruptive psychology and the writer is showing me his mind didnt go through any form of incident but were easily able to link details of the story down to words used in conversation. If a person had been through such an incident, they could only recall only bits and pieces of incident and would not be produce anything in such fine details whatsoever especially with regards to conversations. In fact, the writer display signs of knowing the actual words mention and not only recall teh possible meaning of words spoken to him, which to me, shows alot of make-up parts.

The consistent "inconsistency" is too obvious with regards to psycho-analysis of the writer's display and that is why i rather way for any statement from the police to reach any form of conclusion and not to land any blame just as yet.

We all dislike PAP in one way or another, but I do not think we should let this dislike blind us in what is actually happening, and in this case, cover our sight on possible misadventure of an individual.

I m sure you are more logical and rational than that.

 

[scroobal]

List of Trangressions

1)Denial of Access to a Lawyer

2)Defaming a Prominent Lawyer,the Eminent Mr Chia Ti Lik, Advocate & Solicitor, Singapore

3)Death Threats issued against my person

4)Arrest made with no basis/evidence of any crime committed

5)Attempted Coercion / Coaxing / Coaching of A Confession

6)Repeatedly Insulting A “Suspect”

7)Attempt to get me to signed a “Confession” through mis-writing what I had said [/B][/COLOR]

The consistent "inconsistency" is too obvious with regards to psycho-analysis of the writer's display and that is why i rather way for any statement from the police to reach any form of conclusion and not to land any blame just as yet.


I m sure you are more logical and rational than that.

Just look at his list of transgressions and you already know he knows nut about anything and that suggests to me that no planning went into it and he just regurgitated what he though. In Singapore, the Police can do what ever they want and there is no accesss to a lawyer until they finish their investigation. He must be watching too much TV. Defaming a lawyer - what the hell is that. Repeatedly insulting a suspect - what the hell is that as well.

There is absolutely nothing to suggest that this is linked with SDP. How did you come to that?

He just wrote what came to mind. I had a giggle when I read the part about Police insulting a suspect. Do you expect the Police to serve tea? Looks like he expected a courteous Police service during an interrogation.

What are the tell tale signs that indicate that this is fabricated? Besides the "consistent inconsistent" theory

Lets put it this way, if it fabricated, he is going to be picked real soon and charged for an entirely different thing. Lets see if that is the case.

Let see a "logical and rational" explanation coming forth.