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Pfizer-Pfizer-Sinovac accepted as Booster? Or need Pfizer-Pfizer-Sinovac-Sinovac-Sinovac?

Filloz

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Like most Singaporeans, I took Pfizer-Pfizer earlier. Ony Ye Kung said that Singapore would announce expiry of vaccination validity for those with two mRNA shots, meaning that I have to take booster shots in exchange for my freedom.
https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...uired-be-fully-vaccinated-ong-ye-kung-1770611

Our state vaccination program doesn't give me much choices and now Moderna and Pfizer CEOs also confirmed that these mRNA vaccines will not stop me from getting infected. Therefore, I just want to "clock the mileage" with Sinovac/Sinopharm, does anyone know if this combination is recognized as a booster shot?
Example:
  • Pfizer-Pfizer-Sinovac
  • Pfizer-Pfizer-Sinopharm

If they don't recognize the above combination, is it to force me to support Temasek's investments in Pfizer or they are anti-china? Meaning that, I need to take:
  • Pfizer-Pfizer-Sinovac-Sinovac-Sinovac
  • Pfizer-Pfizer-Sinopharm-Sinopharm-Sinopharm
 

laksaboy

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Canuck doctor says this. Do you believe her? :wink:

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borom

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Speaking on Saturday (Oct 23), Health Minister Ong Ye Kung said "If we can take that approach, and live with some inconsistencies, then we can tackle the real challenge "
That statement clearly says they can suka suka do anything they want and most of the measures PAP put in place are for their own administrative convenience rather than health or safety .
A good example is when 5 can dine in shopping malls which are aircond and more dangerous whereas only 2 can eat at non aircond hawkers -simply because they do not have the means to check on vaccination status
 

borom

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It's primary series then booster. And booster is defined as 1 jab.

So far no restriction on choice of booster.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...for-sinovac-and-sinopharm-as-covid-19-vaccine
The article does not clarify whether Sinovac/pharm will be officially recognised for those who are already on mRNA when booster shots are made compulsory to be considered as fully vaccinated.
So far, it seems there is no option for those who are already on mRNA to go for Simovac/pharm in govt vaccination centres but I will be very happy to be proven wrong -can anyone show a link where those on mRNA can opt for Chinese vaccines as booster in govt vaccination centres .
I am on 2 dose of mRNA and also want to go for Sinovac as booster but is worried it will not be considered as fully vaccinated when booster becomes compulsory
 

laksaboy

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The article does not clarify whether Sinovac/pharm will be officially recognised for those who are already on mRNA when booster shots are made compulsory to be considered as fully vaccinated.
So far, it seems there is no option for those who are already on mRNA to go for Simovac/pharm in govt vaccination centres but I will be very happy to be proven wrong -can anyone show a link where those on mRNA can opt for Chinese vaccines as booster in govt vaccination centres .
I am on 2 dose of mRNA and also want to go for Sinovac as booster but is worried it will not be considered as fully vaccinated when booster becomes compulsory

I thought Chinese vaccines are only available at selected private clinics? Govt vaccination centres only provide Pfizer, and a few of them have Moderna.
 

borom

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Individuals who have taken the Sinovac-CoronaVac vaccine as their first two doses can now walk into the following vaccination centres for their third dose to complete their primary series:
a. Vaccination centres offering the Moderna vaccine;
b. Vaccination centres offering the Pfizer-BioNTech/Comirnaty vaccine, if they are aged 60 years and older; and
c. Raffles City Convention Centre (RCCC), which offers the Sinovac-CoronaVac vaccine, and takes walk-ins until 31 December 2021

https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlig...e-for-third-dose-of-sinovac-coronavac-vaccine
 

Leongsam

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Are all these vaccines needed in the first place? The vast majority are doing fine without having to be vaccinated.
 

laksaboy

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Are all these vaccines needed in the first place? The vast majority are doing fine without having to be vaccinated.

Certainly, they are used to digitally tag the clean people and register them into the vaccine passport system.

And with booster shots every few months, tremendous profit potential.
 

Sideswipe

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Certainly, they are used to digitally tag the clean people and register them into the vaccine passport system.

And with booster shots every few months, tremendous profit potential.

the booster shots must not be too effective otherwise the Covid pandemic would end. they wouldn't be so evil ?
 

saynotomsm

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All these vaccines belong to the the same boss. No difference. Only creates an illusion that there are choices available.
 

LittleP

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Apparently, a neighbor of mine had the same concern as well. He has so far taken a P+P. He is dead set on not wanting another P or M but like many, he was concerned about whether if he took S as a booster, he would be considered as fully VAXed.
One night, I met him in the car park & we chat about this topic again. He says he already took S as booster. I was skeptical & he showed his trace & Health app to me. Confirm he took a P+P+S.
Asked about initial concerns, his reply is narrative say cannot but when you go to the private clinics, they say WHY CANNOT!!!
Final closing was, you say, I say, they say but my app shows fully VAXed, now how to say :roflmao:
 

Filloz

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Apparently, a neighbor of mine had the same concern as well. He has so far taken a P+P. He is dead set on not wanting another P or M but like many, he was concerned about whether if he took S as a booster, he would be considered as fully VAXed.
One night, I met him in the car park & we chat about this topic again. He says he already took S as booster. I was skeptical & he showed his trace & Health app to me. Confirm he took a P+P+S.
Asked about initial concerns, his reply is narrative say cannot but when you go to the private clinics, they say WHY CANNOT!!!
Final closing was, you say, I say, they say but my app shows fully VAXed, now how to say :roflmao:

Thank you for sharing this important insight.
Earlier, i only knew P+S, M+S is acceptable as fully vax (before booster).
 

Majulah

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the booster shots must not be too effective otherwise the Covid pandemic would end. they wouldn't be so evil ?
u are either misinformed or u did not pay attention to what others have posted . all mNRA vaccines are not to cure but to maim and kill.
booster shots are to hasten the process .
u think evil crooks like lee ah loong or ong yak goon took the shots ?

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jw5

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u are either misinformed or u did not pay attention to what others have posted . all mNRA vaccines are not to cure but to maim and kill.
booster shots are to hasten the process .
u think evil crooks like lee ah loong or ong yak goon took the shots ?

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Ong Yak Goon took Pfizer-Pfizer-Moderna and claims this combination is the most effective. :wink:

COVID: 2 Pfizer doses and Moderna booster give more protection than 3 Pfizer jabs – Ong Ye Kung​


SINGAPORE — Those who have taken two Pfizer-BioNTech doses and their booster shot by Moderna are more protected against the risk of COVID-19 infection, compared with those who have taken three Pfizer doses.

Across the ages, they are 72 per cent less likely to be infected, compared with 62 per cent for the latter group, said Health Minister Ong Ye Kung on Monday (15 November) during a virtual press conference chaired by the multi-ministry taskforce.

Ong, who is the taskforce co-chair, was citing findings from a recent study by the Ministry of Health (MOH) on the relative effectiveness of Pfizer and Moderna booster shots.

"Both mRNA vaccines work very well as boosters, with Pfizer-Pfizer-Moderna having a slight edge. Regardless, the impact on the reduction of severity of illness is extremely high for both combinations," he noted.

Ong did not elaborate on specifics of the study, including its timeframe, sample size, or demographics.

He, however, added that there are results for other combinations, including those who took all three Moderna doses, but cautioned that the sample sizes for such groups are "not very large and the statistics may not be as meaningful".

In response to a question by the media on the general effectiveness of booster shots in protecting one from the coronavirus disease, the MOH director of medical services Kenneth Mak said that the authorities are in the midst of compiling the data and that it would be released to the public "soon".

"We'll get it to you and we'll make sure that you have information concerning how well the booster vaccine doses are doing," said Associate Professor Mak.

Ong stressed that while data has not been released yet, it is "very clear" that they work.

"The probability of infection and the probability of severe illness has been further drastically reduced," he said. "(For) seniors, the impact has been stark and very significant."

Both Prof Mak and Ong revealed last week that they had taken the Pfizer vaccine for their first two doses, and a Moderna jab for their third.

The taskforce had in September announced that mRNA vaccines under Singapore's booster vaccination strategy "can be treated as equivalent to each other" as advised by the expert committee on COVID-19 vaccination.

Pfizer, Moderna, and Sinovac vaccines are used in Singapore's national vaccination drive.

Other vaccines under the World Health Organisation’s (WHO) emergency use listing – such as those made by Johnson & Johnson, Oxford-AstraZeneca, and Sinopharm – are approved for use under the special access route for private healthcare providers.

As of Sunday, 94 per cent of Singapore's eligible population – aged 12 and above – have received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines or completed their full regimen.

Among the total population, 85 per cent have received two doses, 86 per cent have received at least one dose, and 21 per cent have received their booster shots.
 

Majulah

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most unvaxxed sinkaporeans also still not infected , this showed they are better protected than what yak goon claimed.
 

duckrice

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Best if you can, avoid all CV19 vaccination. They aren't safe. If you have a latent medical condition, for example, calcification of your heart arteries, the vaccine can dislodge these calcium plague and cause a blood clot. You will end up having a heart attack like thr many athletes and football players. YOU CAN DIE.
 

hbk75

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mRNA causes spikes on all ur vessel walls and organs. Then ur killer lymphocyte thinks that ur blood vessels Kenna infected and go attack it. Causing autoimmune issues.
 
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