PAPee Apologist REGRETS Retiring in Canada Woh!

[makapaaa]

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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->MR CHEONG Wing Lee last Thursday crafted a compelling letter about how much greener the grass is on the other side, compared to Singapore, especially when one has some wealth ('Retiring abroad: One ex-Singaporean's experience').
He writes about being able to enjoy a more luxurious lifestyle with his dollar in Canada than he could have done in Singapore. Furthermore, he gets the bonus of free health care and a potential pension when he is 65. He has many friends and finds life fulfilling.
Undoubtedly, Mr Cheong worked hard to deserve all this. Nevertheless, he, his wife and former Nanyang Technological University professor friend have conveniently forgotten it was Singapore that enabled them somewhat to acquire the necessary wealth to pursue their present lifestyle.
Mr Cheong talked at length only about his wonderful life in Vancouver. He conveniently failed to mention the notorious square kilometre of the Downtown East Side where the homeless, hookers, drug addicts and peddlers openly congregate. The poverty and squalor found there rival that of any ghetto in the world. I am most familiar with this desperate side of Vancouver because I regularly help there at a soup kitchen to serve food to the homeless.
Although it touts itself as the Best Place on Earth, Vancouver is not such a pretty city when one views it with dispassionate eyes or with empty pockets.
I am a Singaporean who has had a good life in Vancouver for four years now. I studied here in the 1980s. Unlike Mr Cheong, I often yearn to be back home in Singapore. I have many friends here but I have yet to develop the feeling that they are my people. I visit Singapore yearly and, although I am with strangers in the MRT, bus, foodcourts or shopping malls, I always feel that, once again, I am home, with my own people and in my own country.
Like Mr Cheong, I will be happy to show visitors around to let them 'experience the truth'. Perhaps, after the experience, some may appreciate even more the green, green grass of Singapore. Chang Pow Meng

 

[makapaaa]

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The writer wrote:

"I visit Singapore yearly and, although I am with strangers in the MRT, bus, foodcourts or shopping malls, I always feel that, once again, I am home, with my own people and in my own country."

My reply, the next time you visit Singapore again, ask these strangers where they are from, they may very well be from the place you are now in, no wonder you feel so close to them.

To add to fabritech02 comments #02, I too have a friend who dropped out of ITE and is now an associate professor teaching in a US university.
Another close relative was unable to get into JC but managed to get a Masters degree in the UK and has worked as a Regional Director in a Fortune 100 company as well as VP in another international company but was not able to get even a manager position in Singapore.
Why???
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[zack123]

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<!-- START OF : div id="storytext"--><!-- more than 4 paragraphs -->MR CHEONG Wing Lee last Thursday crafted a compelling letter about how much greener the grass is on the other side, compared to Singapore, especially when one has some wealth ('Retiring abroad: One ex-Singaporean's experience').
He writes about being able to enjoy a more luxurious lifestyle with his dollar in Canada than he could have done in Singapore. Furthermore, he gets the bonus of free health care and a potential pension when he is 65. He has many friends and finds life fulfilling.
Undoubtedly, Mr Cheong worked hard to deserve all this. Nevertheless, he, his wife and former Nanyang Technological University professor friend have conveniently forgotten it was Singapore that enabled them somewhat to acquire the necessary wealth to pursue their present lifestyle.
Mr Cheong talked at length only about his wonderful life in Vancouver. He conveniently failed to mention the notorious square kilometre of the Downtown East Side where the homeless, hookers, drug addicts and peddlers openly congregate. The poverty and squalor found there rival that of any ghetto in the world. I am most familiar with this desperate side of Vancouver because I regularly help there at a soup kitchen to serve food to the homeless.
Although it touts itself as the Best Place on Earth, Vancouver is not such a pretty city when one views it with dispassionate eyes or with empty pockets.
I am a Singaporean who has had a good life in Vancouver for four years now. I studied here in the 1980s. Unlike Mr Cheong, I often yearn to be back home in Singapore. I have many friends here but I have yet to develop the feeling that they are my people. I visit Singapore yearly and, although I am with strangers in the MRT, bus, foodcourts or shopping malls, I always feel that, once again, I am home, with my own people and in my own country.
Like Mr Cheong, I will be happy to show visitors around to let them 'experience the truth'. Perhaps, after the experience, some may appreciate even more the green, green grass of Singapore. Chang Pow Meng

Good to see a balanced view of emigrants. Up to Sporen to decide where to retire. For me the warmth of frens and the local charms such as teh tarik etc would be a big factor

 

[Lentor]

their relocation to canada in the first place was most likely due to "give up hope" on this government.the schs here only caters to the ELITEs who entered via the back door or scholars from other countries.
the rest of peasants are in those oz UNIs,u can use 1 stick and anyhow throw,the probability of hitting a sinkie might be even higher than that of hitting a oz white trash.

 

[scoobyhoo]

singapore is the place for elites. for those who are not elites, stay must be grateful.

 

[silverspoon]

seriously speaking..if i have a choice..i would have left singapore but i make the mistake of staying here

 

[SAMURAISAN]

seriously speaking..if i have a choice..i would have left singapore but i make the mistake of staying here

I really wish scum like you would find a way to leave this terrible place and find your paradise elsewhere. After all, if you cannot make it here, you must surely strike it big somewhere else..anywhere. Why stick around and grate at all the success around you when you are just too inept to grab some for yourself ?

For elites like me who have made a success of it here, I would rather have more hardworking foreigners here than whining locals like you....

So if you would send me your contact address I would like to donate $1 to kick off a fund to enable you to buy your ticket out of here.

 

[cass888]

Nevertheless, he, his wife and former Nanyang Technological University professor friend have conveniently forgotten it was Singapore that enabled them somewhat to acquire the necessary wealth to pursue their present lifestyle.

Unlike the whiners here, Mr Cheong has got his formula right. Work hard in Singapore and enjoy the low taxes. Migrate to a retirement friendly place like Vancouver or Toronto after retirement. In fact, he can even get all his CPF by renouncing his citizenship.

He's much better off than the retired Canadians because Singapore is more condusive for wealth-accumulation.

He's better off than the retired Singaporean in Singapoe because Canada is more retirement friendly.

He made the systems work for him. Much better than people whining about the system all day long.

 

[angry_one]

This article is not entirely wrong. Wherever you go, you need to be smart and work hard to succeed. If you have no money or skills, even Vancouver is no haven for you.

But his hypocrisy is damning. He talks about missing home but continues to stay there and only visit once a year.

 

[madmansg]

all singaporean guys above 60 year old should be confine to Tekong and serve their remaining days in NS slavery.

 

[borom]

[QUOTE Mr Cheong .....conveniently failed to mention the notorious square kilometre of the Downtown East Side where the homeless, hookers, drug addicts and peddlers openly congregate....... The poverty and squalor found there....I am most familiar with this desperate side of Vancouver because I regularly help there at a soup kitchen to serve food to the homeless.

I am a Singaporean who has had a good life in Vancouver for four years now. .....I often yearn to be back home in Singapore..... I have many friends here but I have yet to develop the feeling that they are my people. [/QUOTE]

Agree with angry-one about his hypocrisy.
S'pore has also its notorious kilometres of hookers,peddlers,illegal immigrants and con artist-its called Geylang.

Mabye he has not heard of the many S'poreans who are unable to pay utilities bills and provide even breakfast for their children.

If he yearn for S'pore so much,what the hell is he having a good life in Vancouver-come back to his beloved country and help the poor at home .
Not sure if he has served NS (a foreign talent turned Singaporean?)-but he should come back and complete his reservist training (before 40/45) and
defend the country he missed so much.

 

[Alu862]

My friend was injured in the UK but was treated by the A&E within 15 minutes and given free medicine. Sounds like c case described beofre?

Singaporeans are too arrogant.

 

[The_Latest_H]

This article is not entirely wrong. Wherever you go, you need to be smart and work hard to succeed. If you have no money or skills, even Vancouver is no haven for you.

But his hypocrisy is damning. He talks about missing home but continues to stay there and only visit once a year.

What do you expect from a guy like him? He wants it both ways, and he just sounds false about it. At least he should have been completely honest.

 

[eeoror88]

all singaporean guys above 60 year old should be confine to Tekong and serve their remaining days in NS slavery.

Yes..... and you will be the only nurse there !!

 

[makapaaa]

For elites like me who have made a success of it here, I would rather have more hardworking foreigners here than whining locals like you....

Elite dog or cat?

 

[makapaaa]

Unlike the whiners here, Mr Cheong has got his formula right. Work hard in Singapore and enjoy the low taxes. Migrate to a retirement friendly place like Vancouver or Toronto after retirement. In fact, he can even get all his CPF by renouncing his citizenship.

He's much better off than the retired Canadians because Singapore is more condusive for wealth-accumulation.

He's better off than the retired Singaporean in Singapoe because Canada is more retirement friendly.

He made the systems work for him. Much better than people whining about the system all day long.

So u agree that your owner's leegalilized corruption has made Peesai retirement unfriendly? Aren't u biting the hand that feeds u?

 

[cass888]

So u agree that your owner's leegalilized corruption has made Peesai retirement unfriendly? Aren't u biting the hand that feeds u?

Not at all. A bustling city condusive to wealth creation is invariably retirement unfriendly. Instead of complaining about the place being retirement unfriendly, it's more important for you and me to be retirement ready.

A city is generally retirement unfriendly. You will not find people retiring in Brooklyn (sp) or Manhattan or, for that matter, city centre of Toronto. People will retire to the suburbs. Problem is, Singapore has no real suburbs or hinterland.

The person in the article really got his priorities right. Plan in advance and win both ways.

 

[limbeitanre]

I really wish scum like you would find a way to leave this terrible place and find your paradise elsewhere. After all, if you cannot make it here, you must surely strike it big somewhere else..anywhere. Why stick around and grate at all the success around you when you are just too inept to grab some for yourself ?

For elites like me who have made a success of it here, I would rather have more hardworking foreigners here than whining locals like you....

So if you would send me your contact address I would like to donate $1 to kick off a fund to enable you to buy your ticket out of here.

cyber coward like you always ask for the impossible when you yourself got no balls revealing your own IC. why blabbered so much cock in your replies and ask for people's contact address or IC in cyberworld? If you're the real deal, meet them up or limbei. dun always hide in your istana den everyday log in here talk big.

talk who dunno.

hiak hiak hiak...

 

[Whats4]

cyber coward like you always ask for the impossible when you yourself got no balls revealing your own IC. why blabbered so much cock in your replies and ask for people's contact address or IC in cyberworld? If you're the real deal, meet them up or limbei. dun always hide in your istana den everyday log in here talk big.

talk who dunno.

hiak hiak hiak...[/QUOTE]

where there is SAMURAISAN, there will be u.

 

[Alu862]

i would retire to Anywhere else but singapore.