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Chitchat PAP Ong Ye Kung Tells Wanker Jamus Now Not The Time To Impose Environment Tax On SIA! WTF Are Oppies Thinking Of? Recession Still Want Extra Tax?

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SINGAPORE: With the aviation sector battered by the COVID-19 pandemic, it is “not the time now” to be talking about imposing an environmental tax on Singapore Airlines (SIA), said Transport Minister Ong Ye Kung in Parliament on Tuesday (Oct 6).

Doing so will worsen the situation for the national carrier, which is trying hard to preserve cash and generate revenue at the moment, he added, responding to a question from Workers’ Party (WP) Member of Parliament Jamus Lim on why the Government would not consider such a tax.

Earlier in his ministerial statement which outlined the Government’s strategies to support the struggling aviation sector, Mr Ong described SIA as “far from being out of the woods” despite a recent recapitalisation exercise. One of the ideas that the airline had to generate revenue was to launch flights to nowhere, he noted, although this was later scrapped.

“Whichever way SIA had decided, MOT (Ministry of Transport) would always try our best to support our national carrier in times like this,” the minister said in his speech to the House.

“What I will not contemplate is to impose on them an environment tax at this time, as Associate Professor Jamus Lim indicated in his question, because that will just worsen the crisis for SIA.”

Seeking a clarification after Mr Ong’s ministerial statement, Assoc Prof Lim said it is “entirely possible” that the tax will not have an immediate concern on SIA’s economic viability if it is able to pass on the cost to consumers for instance.

The opposition MP also asked if more innovative ways can be considered so that environmental needs “need not be a casualty” to business considerations.

“The simple answer is this, we are in a crisis,” Mr Ong replied.

“SIA, as I mentioned, is ferrying 1.5 per cent of its passenger volume so it’s not about passing the cost to passengers – there are no passengers to pass (the tax) to now,” he added.

With SIA likely to have gone under if not for its recent recapitalisation exercise, policymakers will “need to help SIA preserve as much cash as it can”, said the minister.

“So, this is really not the time now to talk about an environmental tax on SIA. If I were to do that … I would have made the situation much worse for SIA,” said Mr Ong, citing a Chinese idiom that depicts a scenario of throwing stones at somebody who has fallen into a well.

Urging caution, Mr Ong said that the international conversation on environmental taxes will go on when “things resume”.

The other six MPs who sought clarifications from the minister include People’s Action Party (PAP) MP Melvin Yong, who asked whether SIA’s decision to gradually increase its flight operations is tied to the Government’s ongoing negotiations on reciprocal travel arrangements.

SIA has said that it will continue to increase flights gradually, reaching about 15 per cent of its usual passenger capacity by the end of this year.

Mr Ong replied that this is partly a commercial decision by the airline to maintain a presence in certain markets despite low demand.

The Government’s support package for the aviation industry, announced as part of the Resilience Budget in March, also helps the national carrier to maintain a minimum level of air connectivity so that overseas Singaporeans can return home and cargo flights can continue to ensure supply chains are not affected.

PAP MP Sharael Taha wanted to know if anything could be done to reduce costs associated with parking grounded planes.

Noting that he does not have the details on that, Mr Ong said some of these fees have been waived for this period. “But it is not a lot and not significant compared to the cost of operating an airline,” said Mr Ong.

AIR TRAVEL WITHIN ASEAN

In his ministerial statement, Mr Ong had said that pursuing more green lanes and negotiating air travel bubbles with countries whose COVID-19 infection rates are low were among Singapore's plans to revive its air hub.

READ: Air travel bubbles, more green lanes as part of plans for Singapore to ‘revive’ Changi Air Hub amid COVID-19: Ong Ye Kung
PAP MP Saktiandi Supaat wanted to know the status of plans to open up regional air travel between ASEAN countries as testing technology improves.

To that, the minister said: “As of now, I wouldn't say ASEAN is ready to discuss a regional plan but individual countries … are doing our own assessment of what is safe, what is unsafe.”

Within ASEAN, Singapore unilaterally opened its borders to travellers from Vietnam, and has concluded reciprocal green lane arrangements with Malaysia and Brunei.

“So we will push in that direction, taking a country by country approach, and bearing in mind ASEAN is an important market for us,” said Mr Ong.

READ: COVID-19: Singapore to lift border restrictions for some visitors from Australia, Vietnam
REDUCING STAY-HOME NOTICE PERIOD

PAP MP for Sembawang Poh Li San asked if MOT would consider reducing the stay-home notice period for territories that have been “relatively successful” in containing COVID-19.

For instance, the stay-home notice period for China and Taiwan could be reduced from seven days to three to five days, she said.

Unilateral openings are better than reducing the stay-home notice period from 14 days, replied Mr Ong.

Countries like Brunei, New Zealand, Vietnam and Australia - except Victoria state - have “similar to or better” incidence rates and risk profiles compared to Singapore, and travellers from these countries do not have to go through a stay-home notice period.

“When you have similar risk profiles, technically there is actually no need for tests. Because someone from those countries coming to Singapore (are) not different from someone from Jurong, Sembawang or Bedok going to Changi Airport,” he said.

“But out of an abundance of precaution, we still administer a post-arrival test. Once negative, they are free to move about,” he added.

WP MP Gerald Giam asked why incoming arrivals are placed on stay-home notices before their first COVID-19 test, instead of being tested on arrival.

All travellers that Singapore opens up to unilaterally have to be tested on arrival, said Mr Ong.

Health Minister Gan Kim Yong added that for travellers coming in who are tested after their stay-home notices, it is because of the incubation period of the virus.

“When they come in, they may have been infected, and if we test them on the spot on arrival, it may not be detected because there is (an) incubation period.

“And that is why we put them within the (stay-home notice) for the whole duration of the incubation period and test them at the end. And if they are still negative, that means they have passed the incubation period … and we can then allow them to go into the community,” he said.

BRINGING BACK MAJOR AIRLINES

PAP MP for Bukit Panjang Liang Eng Hua asked if it made sense to resume travel from a cost revenue standpoint, given the current economic climate.

He cited measures like the reciprocal green lane arrangements, controlled itinerary, various COVID-19 tests, monitoring and surveillance, higher prices for plane tickets, as well the cost for airlines to operate flights which are not full.

He also asked if the minister was confident of bringing back major airlines which might have moved out of Singapore.

While the costs of running passenger services have risen, supply and demand have dropped, and there are many passengers still prepared to pay more to travel, said Mr Ong.

“I think the demand is there because the supply has totally been decimated,” he said.

On bringing back major airlines, Mr Ong said: “That is why we need to start taking steps, as I mentioned, to start signalling that we would be determined, we are determined to hold onto our status as an air hub.”

He added that the ministry is taking “active steps” to open borders and revive travel, and many in the airline industry are “still very keen” to return to Singapore.

MEDIUM- TO LONG-TERM PLANS

Mr Saktiandi asked Mr Ong for the Government’s post-COVID-19 plans, such as infrastructure strategies, to “put us in a better state beyond one year ahead”.

“We are not short of infrastructure plans,” replied Mr Ong, citing Changi Airport’s new Terminal 5 and the various terminal upgradings.

“What we need now is not so much the hardware, but the software of being able to open up our borders, welcome travellers to and fro, but do so safely,” he said.

“And it will mean infrastructure such as testing capacity, such as people who can do the test, such as adopting new, novel testing methods, including rapid test kits that allow us to open up safely.

“This is what is critical now. If we succeed, if we can make the first moves, then when there is a vaccine, when air travel opens again internationally, we will find that Singapore is right up there, ahead of the curve and we can retain our air hub status.”

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...re-airlines-covid-19-travel-aviation-13211568
 

Loofydralb

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Hypocrisy when you refuse to tax when times are bad. I thought the whole idea of environmental tax is to discourage CO2 emmissions? Should tha not apply too when times are bad?
So we end up with the facts that they want to tax when there is money to be taxed. The reasons are just excuses. They are picking the pockets of people, that's all.
Jamus is far ahead of you idiots in seeing the hypocrisy.
 

GUDANGARAM

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taxes must be fair and all are being equal.
even the retrenched staff also pay huge amount of water and electricity taxes.
 

Leongsam

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This Jamus guy is a moron for believing this climate crisis crap.
 

millim6868

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PAPigs minister are also in crisis, their pay cannot be reduce cos even 1 minsiter say pay too low not enough even being paid 50k per mth.61% song bo.
 

tanwahtiu

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Lose one more GRC lost this year, still don't get the message that their golden days of CEO pay status are over.

PAPigs minister are also in crisis, their pay cannot be reduce cos even 1 minsiter say pay too low not enough even being paid 50k per mth.61% song bo.
 

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MP Jamus Lim explains why imposing environment tax on SIA can be more “economically efficient” at this time - The Online Citizen
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Earlier on Tuesday (6 Oct), Transport Minister Ong Ye Kung said in Parliament that he will not contemplate imposing an environment tax on Singapore Airlines (SIA) at this time, as indicated by the Workers’ Party (WP) Member of Parliament (MP) for Sengkang GRC Jamus Lim.
The Minister revealed that both Changi Airport Group (CAG) and SIA are in “deep crisis” due to the global travel restrictions amid the coronavirus pandemic.
Mr Ong said that with SIA having recorded its largest-ever quarterly loss on record in the first quarter of its 2020 financial year, the company is “trying its best to reduce cash burn, preserve core capabilities, and explore all ways to generate revenue”.
Assoc Prof Lim asked him to clarify on why he would not consider imposing an environment tax as it is “entirely possible” that the tax will not have an immediate concern on the economic viability if SIA is able to pass on the cost to consumers.
“I wonder whether it is possible to consider mechanisms where the environmental needs – of both the country and the world – need not be a casualty through business considerations,” he continued.
In response, Mr Ong noted that SIA is in the state of a crisis and is likely to have gone under if not for its recent recapitalization exercise.
“SIA, as I mentioned, is ferrying 1.5 per cent of its passenger volume so it’s not about passing the cost to passengers – there are no passengers to pass [the tax] to now.”
“This is really not the time now to talk about an environmental tax on SIA. If I were to do that, I think there’s Chinese saying… I would’ve made the situation much worse for SIA. It means, someone fell into the well, and you throw a stone to make the situation worse,” he remarked.
Assoc Prof Lim took to his Facebook on the same day to further explain why he believes imposing an environmental tax on SIA could help support the airline at this time.
According to him, an environmental tax would constitute “an indirect transfer” from passengers, who are willing to take a flight to nowhere, to SIA workers.
“The alternative would have been a direct bailout (as is currently the case), which also involves a tax (the expenditure of taxpayer monies).
“Alternatively, such a tax could be funded from certain cost savings, perhaps from berthing rights in foreign airports (since the planes won’t need to land there), leaving total ticket costs the same. This still involves some redistribution, but from foreign airport revenues to SIA,” the WP’s member asserted.
Assoc Prof Lim said imposing tax may be more economically efficient at this time because flights to nowhere offer one important benefit that usually accrues to travel, which is, “the welfare gains of the hundreds of passengers who get to enjoy the experience of being in a new country”.
“Given these forgone benefits, the environmental costs loom much larger.”
He continued, “More generally, I was hoping to spur some creative thinking about how we can help ensure the future viability of our national airline, without compromising the need to pay attention to the environment, too. I think such creative thinking is necessary to ensure that we don’t spend our hard-earned reserves in an unwise fashion.”
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Scrooball (clone)

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This Jamus Lim really talk like he is some world renowned economist. And we are all know economists are good in theory but lacking in practicality.

Might as we’ll increase gst now during this tough economic period.
 

congo9

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I think what he say make sense. These people who wanted to pay for a trip to nowhere can afford to pay for the cost plus some tax. He is streets ahead of our Minister.
 

congo9

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This Jamus Lim really talk like he is some world renowned economist. And we are all know economists are good in theory but lacking in practicality.

Might as we’ll increase gst now during this tough economic period.
Well, Premium of medishield life increased by 35%. The electricity is also increasing. Why not?
 

parrardee

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Hypocrisy when you refuse to tax when times are bad. I thought the whole idea of environmental tax is to discourage CO2 emmissions? Should tha not apply too when times are bad?
So we end up with the facts that they want to tax when there is money to be taxed. The reasons are just excuses. They are picking the pockets of people, that's all.
Jamus is far ahead of you idiots in seeing the hypocrisy.

What a bloody idiot who cant see the big picture. There is a time and place for everything dumbo. You must have applied for the position of toilet cleaner in SIA and got ridiculed and rejected by the interviewers so you are now bitter and bitchy against anything SIA. A real loser.
 

Loofydralb

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What a bloody idiot who cant see the big picture. There is a time and place for everything dumbo. You must have applied for the position of toilet cleaner in SIA and got ridiculed and rejected by the interviewers so you are now bitter and bitchy against anything SIA. A real loser.
Stupid cannot understand that rebutting hypocrisy could not be delayed as the effects would be diluted by time and circumstance.

And also some news for you to ponder. What do you think the management is doing figuring out how to save cash for the company? There will naturally be voices that suggests more cuts. And painful but necessary ones too. You do know what cuts feel right?

Lastly you are right, there is a time and place for everything. Its just that its not time for you to have brains now. Maybe after you are retrenched you will grow one.
 

laksaboy

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Unlike his predecessors, Ong Ye Kung seems very besotted with SIA, aviation hub and flights etc. You would think that a Transport Minister would concentrate more on buses and MRT etc. :wink:
 

Scrooball (clone)

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Unlike his predecessors, Ong Ye Kung seems very besotted with SIA, aviation hub and flights etc. You would think that a Transport Minister would concentrate more on buses and MRT etc. :wink:

You would think. Lol.... if everyone thinks like u, the whole country going down.
 
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