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More interesting comments by other forumers.
"Dont just look at WP at just another PAP. What WP is doing is restoring what the other opposition lacked for the longest time...........Credibility and track records.....trying to restore the fact that Oppositions can form an alternative government if PAP cant.
Because if you look at the current rest of the opposition clowns. I really use the word clowns, because I agree with PAP. You trust this jokers to run the show ? Or have them inside the parliament just to kpkb with PAP running the show ?
So at the end of the day, does Singaporeans want PAP to run the show with a bunch of 10-20 oppositions in the parliament making noise only ? Then I rather have PAP run the show.
Or do i want to see a good show down of an alternative stable govt who can effectively take over from the other ?
So dont underestimate LTK and team way of running the show. They know that before you can come out and kpkb about others, you make sure you do your stuff well first. They got a lot more at stake with one GRC and SMC on hand. They gotta first ensure that those pple in Aljunied and Hougang are well taken care. No more "carefree" statements like those from the other Opposition parties."
"Question here is.
If you are voting in an opposition, do you just vote them in to get PAP out or really for the better of the country.
The problem with most of the other opposition parties is that....it is not WP treating them as pushovers or not. The problem is that have they proven to US, Singaporeans, that they are a credible bunch to be voted in or not ?
In any typical ward, there are always few bunch of voters. Oppositions parties need to understand this very well.
1) Typical Hardcore PAP voters
2) Typical Hardcore Opposition voters
3) Incumbent voters
4) Undecided but logical voters who wants stability & peace so usually end up voting
Group 1 and group 2 are generally not the majority. Probably taking ard 10%-15% each.
Your Group 3 usually form a big group too. Usually 20-30% cos they dont really like changes but usually vote for the incumbent.
Group 4 usually forms the rest . As huge as 50% depending on how well the economy is doing or how well like is the incumbent.
As more and more Gen Y and Z people get into the voting age, the swing votes are the ones from Group 4 because they are more savvy and received better education. This is where the opposition should try to erode away to swing it to them. Proving to them that they can do it too.
In summary, winning Punggol East its not a showdown of opposition parties and see who is a pushover and who wants to be the Indian Chief. Its just simply, who is the team that is ready to lead and run the Ward."
"WP need not send in any "stronger" or in my opinion, "more vocal" candidates to the parliament.
There are so many fiery talents in the WP team inside the parliament now.
LTK, the fiery one
Sylvia, looks harmless but when kana sh!t from pap, can open up cans of worms (AIMs saga)
CSM, the quietest of the lot but i believe amongst the brainest.
Pretnam, can talk when needed too.
So many inside can talk one. So why need anymore can talk one ?
Need those can WORK one. Png is one of them, more worker than talker. So WP just need to send in a hardworking, effective candidate to contest."
"But the fact remains....what PAP says doesnt comes without logic.
If you cant run a TC, how you prove your worth to run a country.
So how does WP do it ?
First, you prove that as an opposition party, you serve your people (who voted you in) well. You seek their confidence in you by showing that you can balance the $$ and run the show and run things.
At the same time you also show the other people in other GRCs that, hey, voting in an opposition like WP isnt as bad as things seems.
I am not saying that we should just get rid of other opposition and just go for WP. But an idea how SDP and other oppositions should start thinking, how to convince the voters.
Dont ask me to vote you in as an alternative voice. You must be able to do more than an alternative voice before I will give you my vote."
"Singaporeans already gave SDP 2 seats last time. They were not able to run the wards properly and resulted in a quick boot out of the parliament.
I was too young to know what actually happened but I heard it was quite bad..
Nobody remembers what impact SDP had when they were in parliament.
The only things that ppl remembered are the defamation law suits and the crazy stuff Dr Chee did. Accuse prison of putting poison in his food... go on hunger strikes..
So if you give opposition supporters 2 choices, WP or SDP. I think the more rational voters will go for WP.
Furthermore, Punggol East SMC is so bloody near hougang, ppl got eyes to see how it is being managed."
"many people are unhappy that WP seems to be very quiet, not doing anything, but they don't understand this. they don't understand why WP won aljunied, they don't understand majority of local voters' thoughts, they don't understand the situation.
WP is indeed quiet, but their ground work is superb. they are quiet, but when they bite... they are most feared by the PAP. just look at how WP control the situation of AIM and town council. if it's other parties, they probably come out with loud, abusive statements and immediately lose support from the ground for being aggressive and perceived ridiculous."
"Actually i do think its only courtesy to response to such an invitation, be it favorably or otherwise. I'm guessing WP already did and have their own reason as to it's decision to turn the invitation down. It might be good to issue a statement as to why not though. my 2 cents."
"Obviously SDP does not know how to win an election. Let's look at the demographics.
In every constituency, there is about 30-35% hardcore anti PAP votes to grab. To reach >40%, one must be able to win the support from the swing voters. WP performed brilliantly in the last GE, securing >40% in every single constituency they contested.
Look at SDP. They hardly swayed the swing voters based on last GE results. What they secured are simply just hardcore anti-PAP votes. Even "ahem" parties like SDA and RP secured 30-35% on every single constituency not because of their merits, but because these voters who vote for them simply dislike PAP. To even reach 40%, they must work the ground and start to win the swing voters. This is the reason why WP polled 42%, while SDA got merely 4%.
My prediction is simple-- WP will poll >40%, while other opposition parties will lose election deposits, cuz none of the opposition parties other than WP can win the swing voters. So to the voters, it's either WP or PAP.. and I certainly hope WP can nick it though the odds are against them.
In fact, from Derek Da Cunha's book titled "Breakthrough", WP should not back off in multi-corner fights in future. It's the other opposition parties that should give way. SDA has gone down the drain and gotten absolutely humiliated, and SDP will go the same way if they still don't see the reality."
"myfoot123
Default Letter to SDP - Dr Chee Soon Juan.
Address to: SDP
To whom it may concern
I noticed SDP is knocking on WP’s door very hard, almost banging it. Should WP open the door for negotiation? Here is my personal opinion……
WP has contested in Ponggol East and won 41% support, a fact SDP and other opposition parties cannot deny.
Residents, who did not vote for WP in the last election, probably have doubted WP capability to run a town bigger than Hougang. After a decisive win in Aljunied GRC, WP has cleared some swing voters doubt, WP can indeed manage a GRC well…over two years now. Thus I foresee WP’s votes share in Ponggol will increase slightly more than 41%. Furthermore, with more PAP screwing up residents in recent cases like palmate, Bromptongate and AIMgate, the breeze is certainly in favor of WP. The fight between PAP and WP will be a close watch by all political analysis.
On the other hand, SDP was making serious presumption that they will win 41% secured vote, by default, if WP withdraw from this BE. This is a very risky presumption. 41% residents voted for WP because of its brand, town management experience and the emotional high turnout crowds. SDP has yet to build up the same status and crowds enough to threaten the ruling party, even with their group of capable people no less.
Fair enough, let’s assess SDP marvelous team in the last election. It has indeed improved SDP scores in history which is not enough to win an election. They still fall behind SPP, NSP and WP on average election result. By telling WP, via letter, to step aside because SDP has better people more capable than WP, is akin to a shark telling the whale it is short of volume. The letter appears rude with agenda, blaming WP for 3-corner fight if SDP's request letter is ignored.
If WP were to grant SDP the only party against PAP, it will be a HUGE HUGE favor shown to SDP. Can SDP than take the pressure to prove it can win this BE under Low Thia Kiang’s magnamity ? I am not optimistic for simple reason, if people indeed wanted a shark, they want Chee Soon Juan in parliament, but he cannot contest in this BE.
The ball is in SDP to withdraw until Dr Chee is out of legal suit. There is always a time and chance for them in 2016. Otherwise, he will hand Ponggol back to PAP. WP will than take this painful lesson never, ever to negotiate with any loser again.
With honesty
My foot "
