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#OccupyCentral thread: Give me Liberty or Give me Death!
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Re: Joshua wong: The teenager who is the public face of the hong kong protests
see that sinkies...that is why i respect people who got balls..only people who got balls will become a celebrity..just like Roy and HHH.
so what happen to those who got no balls and need to suck their master's balls to earn a living , they will be spit by people for generations.
see that sinkies...that is why i respect people who got balls..only people who got balls will become a celebrity..just like Roy and HHH.
so what happen to those who got no balls and need to suck their master's balls to earn a living , they will be spit by people for generations.
Re: HK should hold Referendum on its future
they cannot, it was never on the table, and they are not independent
they cannot, it was never on the table, and they are not independent
Re: HK should hold Referendum on its future
The Chinese commies want to keep their little empire intact. Won't happen.
Taiwan, Tibet, Hong Kong, various other autonomous provinces.
Only when the central political power crumbles then will the fringe territories declare independence, just like the Soviet Union.
The conditions do not exist... yet.
The Chinese commies want to keep their little empire intact. Won't happen.
Taiwan, Tibet, Hong Kong, various other autonomous provinces.
Only when the central political power crumbles then will the fringe territories declare independence, just like the Soviet Union.
The conditions do not exist... yet.
Re: HK Protests: Police seen unloading boxes of rubber bullets
Yes lah...
tony is the best.tony has 3 balls
protest kl at merlion...
Yes lah...
tony is the best.tony has 3 balls
protest kl at merlion...
Re: HK should hold Referendum on its future
What ang moh? This are locals rising up against oppressive china. Yet again in history. More a testament to china than anything else
What ang moh? This are locals rising up against oppressive china. Yet again in history. More a testament to china than anything else
Re: Official proof that US financed and brainwashed HK youth to provoke China
Since when? Are you promoting it as one? If there are more cockroaches than people would you say it is a cockroach country then?
Since when? Are you promoting it as one? If there are more cockroaches than people would you say it is a cockroach country then?
Re: What is Occupy Central? 10 key facts about Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement
WeChat allegedly censoring photos from Hong Kong protests
PUBLISHED : Thursday, 02 October, 2014, 8:14am
UPDATED : Thursday, 02 October, 2014, 11:29am
Tech in Asia and staff reporter
A pro-democracy demonstrator checks his phone in Hong Kong. WeChat is reportedly blocking messages about the protests. Photo: AFP
As Hong Kong’s Occupy Central protests continue to gather momentum and draw attention, denizens in the city are sharing photos of events on social media. But apparently, photos of the protests posted to WeChat by Hong Kong-based users are being censored, and are not visible for users of the messaging platform in mainland China.
For example, Hong Kong-based blogger Cam MacMurchy shared the screenshots below with Tech in Asia. On the left is an image from Hong Kong he posted to WeChat on September 30th. On the right, a conversation with a Beijing-based friend, who tells Cam that none of the images he’s posted since September 28th are visible (“now” is a misspelling of the word “no”).
As is probably apparent, Tencent is practicing a form of “hidden” censorship also common on other Chinese social media sites like Weibo. Users can post whatever content they like and it will always appear in their own feed, uncensored. But any friends they might have in China won’t be able to see or comment on the content, and it will appear to them as though nothing has been posted.
It seems that WeChat’s censorship strategy is more sophisticated than previously appreciated, as an earlier rumour had claimed that all images uploaded from Hong Kong-based users were blocked in the mainland.
A number of citizens from the mainland who live in Hong Kong have told the South China Morning Post that, despite a large portion of images they have uploaded to WeChat not being visible to their friends across the border, a few selected images at least appeared to have survived censorship.
It is, of course, no surprise that WeChat is censored in China but it will be interesting to see if this move affects itss user base in Hong Kong in the long term.
Although WeChat is always censored in the mainland, it generally is not in Hong Kong. The current censorship is probably many Hong Kong-based WeChat users first direct experience of having their posts blocked in China. Being subject to censorship is not fun, and it could push Hong Kong’s mobile users towards other messaging platforms once they realise their WeChat posts aren’t being seen by their friends in China.
Some content in this article originally appeared in Tech in Asia and was edited and republished with permission.
WeChat allegedly censoring photos from Hong Kong protests
PUBLISHED : Thursday, 02 October, 2014, 8:14am
UPDATED : Thursday, 02 October, 2014, 11:29am
Tech in Asia and staff reporter
A pro-democracy demonstrator checks his phone in Hong Kong. WeChat is reportedly blocking messages about the protests. Photo: AFP
As Hong Kong’s Occupy Central protests continue to gather momentum and draw attention, denizens in the city are sharing photos of events on social media. But apparently, photos of the protests posted to WeChat by Hong Kong-based users are being censored, and are not visible for users of the messaging platform in mainland China.
For example, Hong Kong-based blogger Cam MacMurchy shared the screenshots below with Tech in Asia. On the left is an image from Hong Kong he posted to WeChat on September 30th. On the right, a conversation with a Beijing-based friend, who tells Cam that none of the images he’s posted since September 28th are visible (“now” is a misspelling of the word “no”).
As is probably apparent, Tencent is practicing a form of “hidden” censorship also common on other Chinese social media sites like Weibo. Users can post whatever content they like and it will always appear in their own feed, uncensored. But any friends they might have in China won’t be able to see or comment on the content, and it will appear to them as though nothing has been posted.
It seems that WeChat’s censorship strategy is more sophisticated than previously appreciated, as an earlier rumour had claimed that all images uploaded from Hong Kong-based users were blocked in the mainland.
A number of citizens from the mainland who live in Hong Kong have told the South China Morning Post that, despite a large portion of images they have uploaded to WeChat not being visible to their friends across the border, a few selected images at least appeared to have survived censorship.
It is, of course, no surprise that WeChat is censored in China but it will be interesting to see if this move affects itss user base in Hong Kong in the long term.
Although WeChat is always censored in the mainland, it generally is not in Hong Kong. The current censorship is probably many Hong Kong-based WeChat users first direct experience of having their posts blocked in China. Being subject to censorship is not fun, and it could push Hong Kong’s mobile users towards other messaging platforms once they realise their WeChat posts aren’t being seen by their friends in China.
Some content in this article originally appeared in Tech in Asia and was edited and republished with permission.
Re: What is Occupy Central? 10 key facts about Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement
IN PICTURES: The highs and lows of Hong Kong's Occupy protests
PUBLISHED : Thursday, 02 October, 2014, 1:37pm
UPDATED : Thursday, 02 October, 2014, 5:34pm
James Griffiths [email protected]
A woman takes a picture of the protests. Photo: Sam Tsang
IN PICTURES: The highs and lows of Hong Kong's Occupy protests
PUBLISHED : Thursday, 02 October, 2014, 1:37pm
UPDATED : Thursday, 02 October, 2014, 5:34pm
James Griffiths [email protected]
A woman takes a picture of the protests. Photo: Sam Tsang
Re: What is Occupy Central? 10 key facts about Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement
From riot police and tear gas to umbrellas and democracy dogs, the ongoing protests in Hong Kong have produced some incredibly iconic images.
As the protests enter their fifth day, we choose 25 of our favourites.
Occupy Central leader Benny Tai addresses supporters in Mong Kok. Tai has called for Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying's resignation. Photo: May Tse
From riot police and tear gas to umbrellas and democracy dogs, the ongoing protests in Hong Kong have produced some incredibly iconic images.
As the protests enter their fifth day, we choose 25 of our favourites.
Occupy Central leader Benny Tai addresses supporters in Mong Kok. Tai has called for Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying's resignation. Photo: May Tse
We need him in sinkapore
Joshua Wong: Meet the teen mastermind of Hong Kong's 'umbrella revolution'
Joshua Wong, 17, co-started Scholarism movement to fight against proposed national education
He may not be considered an adult in Hong Kong, but already 17-year-old Joshua Wong is taking on the government for the second time — along with his tens of thousands of supporters.
"I think he's probably one of the most respected leaders," says Kristof Van Den Troost, a lecturer at the Chinese University of Hong Kong. Van Den Troost has lived in the city for nearly 10 years and has been attending the protests daily since they started.
Wong isn't old enough to vote, but the lanky teenager has emerged as the face of the pro-democracy protests that have been going strong in Hong Kong since mid-September.
He is determined to make Hong Kong's 2017 election for the government's top job democratic. Beijing ruled in late August that it won't permit open nominations.
Protests 'intensified' by Wong's arrest
Scholarism, a group Wong co-founded, is one of three leading the protests against Beijing's decision.
It started as a week-long boycott of university and high-school classes, but escalated Sept. 26 on when throngs of students — Wong among them — occupied Civic Square, which houses the city's central government buildings. Wong and a handful of others scaled a fence and stormed the buildings. They were arrested late Friday.
"The protests really intensified after he got arrested," says Van Den Troost. "One of the first demands was to release him."
It's not surprising, considering the teen in the oversized T-shirts and black-rimmed glasses has quite the loyal following.
He's gained thousands of followers. More than 200,000 people have liked his personal Facebook page, while his Scholarism movement has amassed nearly 300,000 followers. After he asked supporters to join FireChat, an app that lets smartphone and tablet users communicate when there's no cellular or internet connection, more than 100,000 people reportedly downloaded it in less than 24 hours.
Political awakening at 15
That momentum started to grow in 2011, during Wong's first head-to-head confrontation with government policy.
Wong experienced a political awakening that year, he says on his Facebook page, after participating in protests against linking Hong Kong to China's high-speed rail network.
He found his groove fighting for student rights shortly after. Wong co-founded Scholarism and used the internet to garner support from fellow students against a proposal to include national education in Hong Kong's curriculum. Wong and many others considered the addition to be socialist propaganda imported from mainland China, which regained control of Hong Kong under the so-called "one country, two systems" method of government in 1997 from the British.
Some 120,000 people answered Scholarism's rallying call and at the protests' peak, gathered for a similar occupation of government offices.
Those protests are where 32-year-old Hong Kong native Gladys Lau first heard young Wong speak.
His small stature "marks a significant contrast to his inner strength, determination and will power," says Lau.
Wong never seems nervous before gargantuan crowds, police or government leaders, says Lau, who last heard him speak before he initiated the Civic Square occupation. "He's able to convey ideas in a well-organized manner and give responses that are determined and not ambiguous."
Eventually, Hong Kong shelved the national education plans under mounting pressure.
After that successful campaign, media interest in the 17-year-old with the Justin Bieber haircut was so high that Wong had to call a press conference to announce his marks from end-of-high-school public examination last summer.
Parents 'very proud' of son's influence
For Wong, whose focus shifted to pushing for democratic elections after his success with the national education campaign, activism comes naturally.
His parents, Grace and Roger Wong, reportedly took their son to a handful of protests while he was still very young.
They raised him as a Christian — a religion he still identifies with. Wong recalls accompanying his father to visit some of the less fortunate in Hong Kong when he was much younger.
"We have always brought up Joshua to be compassionate, caring, principled and loyal," Wong's parents wrote in a joint statement after their son had spent 25 hours in police custody, "and we are very proud of all that he is doing to make Hong Kong a better place for his generation, and our generation."
Don't call Wong a hero
Despite the attention and success, it's clear Wong is still a teenager at heart, admitting that even he can find politics a touch dull.
He calls the discourse around democratic elections "really boring," in a HK Magazine article, recalling the "tedious" task of writing 3,000 words on electoral reform.
Even though activism is clearly a passion, he's not necessarily pleased with having the attention focused on him rather than the movement.
In a translation of a Facebook post he wrote after being released from police custody, Wong says he feels "very uncomfortable" with being told that he's the hero Hong Kong relies on of the Hong Kong pro-democracy movement.
"I even felt it was revolting," he writes, explaining that the true heroes are all the protesters who were able to stand up to police force while he was being detained.
"The movement is now steered by each and every Hong Kong citizen."
It's a sentiment that rings true for Lau, who has been attending some of the demonstrations.
"If you don't speak for yourself at this very moment, the communist government will define the meaning of democracy for you," she says. "We don't want to be a silent victim."
Joshua Wong: Meet the teen mastermind of Hong Kong's 'umbrella revolution'
Joshua Wong, 17, co-started Scholarism movement to fight against proposed national education
He may not be considered an adult in Hong Kong, but already 17-year-old Joshua Wong is taking on the government for the second time — along with his tens of thousands of supporters.
"I think he's probably one of the most respected leaders," says Kristof Van Den Troost, a lecturer at the Chinese University of Hong Kong. Van Den Troost has lived in the city for nearly 10 years and has been attending the protests daily since they started.
Wong isn't old enough to vote, but the lanky teenager has emerged as the face of the pro-democracy protests that have been going strong in Hong Kong since mid-September.
He is determined to make Hong Kong's 2017 election for the government's top job democratic. Beijing ruled in late August that it won't permit open nominations.
Protests 'intensified' by Wong's arrest
Scholarism, a group Wong co-founded, is one of three leading the protests against Beijing's decision.
It started as a week-long boycott of university and high-school classes, but escalated Sept. 26 on when throngs of students — Wong among them — occupied Civic Square, which houses the city's central government buildings. Wong and a handful of others scaled a fence and stormed the buildings. They were arrested late Friday.
"The protests really intensified after he got arrested," says Van Den Troost. "One of the first demands was to release him."
It's not surprising, considering the teen in the oversized T-shirts and black-rimmed glasses has quite the loyal following.
He's gained thousands of followers. More than 200,000 people have liked his personal Facebook page, while his Scholarism movement has amassed nearly 300,000 followers. After he asked supporters to join FireChat, an app that lets smartphone and tablet users communicate when there's no cellular or internet connection, more than 100,000 people reportedly downloaded it in less than 24 hours.
Political awakening at 15
That momentum started to grow in 2011, during Wong's first head-to-head confrontation with government policy.
Wong experienced a political awakening that year, he says on his Facebook page, after participating in protests against linking Hong Kong to China's high-speed rail network.
He found his groove fighting for student rights shortly after. Wong co-founded Scholarism and used the internet to garner support from fellow students against a proposal to include national education in Hong Kong's curriculum. Wong and many others considered the addition to be socialist propaganda imported from mainland China, which regained control of Hong Kong under the so-called "one country, two systems" method of government in 1997 from the British.
Some 120,000 people answered Scholarism's rallying call and at the protests' peak, gathered for a similar occupation of government offices.
Those protests are where 32-year-old Hong Kong native Gladys Lau first heard young Wong speak.
His small stature "marks a significant contrast to his inner strength, determination and will power," says Lau.
Wong never seems nervous before gargantuan crowds, police or government leaders, says Lau, who last heard him speak before he initiated the Civic Square occupation. "He's able to convey ideas in a well-organized manner and give responses that are determined and not ambiguous."
Eventually, Hong Kong shelved the national education plans under mounting pressure.
After that successful campaign, media interest in the 17-year-old with the Justin Bieber haircut was so high that Wong had to call a press conference to announce his marks from end-of-high-school public examination last summer.
Parents 'very proud' of son's influence
For Wong, whose focus shifted to pushing for democratic elections after his success with the national education campaign, activism comes naturally.
His parents, Grace and Roger Wong, reportedly took their son to a handful of protests while he was still very young.
They raised him as a Christian — a religion he still identifies with. Wong recalls accompanying his father to visit some of the less fortunate in Hong Kong when he was much younger.
"We have always brought up Joshua to be compassionate, caring, principled and loyal," Wong's parents wrote in a joint statement after their son had spent 25 hours in police custody, "and we are very proud of all that he is doing to make Hong Kong a better place for his generation, and our generation."
Don't call Wong a hero
Despite the attention and success, it's clear Wong is still a teenager at heart, admitting that even he can find politics a touch dull.
He calls the discourse around democratic elections "really boring," in a HK Magazine article, recalling the "tedious" task of writing 3,000 words on electoral reform.
Even though activism is clearly a passion, he's not necessarily pleased with having the attention focused on him rather than the movement.
In a translation of a Facebook post he wrote after being released from police custody, Wong says he feels "very uncomfortable" with being told that he's the hero Hong Kong relies on of the Hong Kong pro-democracy movement.
"I even felt it was revolting," he writes, explaining that the true heroes are all the protesters who were able to stand up to police force while he was being detained.
"The movement is now steered by each and every Hong Kong citizen."
It's a sentiment that rings true for Lau, who has been attending some of the demonstrations.
"If you don't speak for yourself at this very moment, the communist government will define the meaning of democracy for you," she says. "We don't want to be a silent victim."
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